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Can a Christian person have demons?

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Aside from death, the ONLY way a human being can leave their physical bodies and astral project themselves, is through demonic forces. It is not in the power of human beings to be able to do that because God did not create us in order to do that. This is new age nonsense that you are talking about.
what is your explanation of how Elijah rebukes his servant saying "did you not know i was with you in spirit when you joined his chariot"
meaning.. the servant knew he was being watched.
 
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No such thing as being enabled to have faith. All are born with ability.

So then no need to be born again?

All are born with the the ability to doubt. Doubt is not the opposite of biblical faith (Christ power working his creatures) No faith or unbelief is the opposite of believing .

In that way the letter of the law (death) it kills not just wounds .
 
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what is your explanation of how Elijah rebukes his servant saying "did you not know i was with you in spirit when you joined his chariot"
meaning.. the servant knew he was being watched.
I think all things are possible with God and I think the enemy counterfeits much of what God does.
 
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So then no need to be born again?

All are born with the the ability to doubt. Doubt is not the opposite of biblical faith (Christ power working his creatures) No faith or unbelief is the opposite of believing .

In that way the letter of the law (death) it kills not just wounds .
When I first heard John 3:16, I saw a little video in my mind of a sword being plunged into my belly. I instantly believed and have believed ever since. I am unable to not believe. I wasn't born with that. The spoken word, combined with the Holy Spirit, did that to me. Until that instant, I didn't know there was a gospel.
 
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When I first heard John 3:16, I saw a little video in my mind of a sword being plunged into my belly. I instantly believed and have believed ever since. I am unable to not believe. I wasn't born with that. The spoken word, combined with the Holy Spirit, did that to me. Until that instant, I didn't know there was a gospel.
Yes salvation in its entirety is a work of Christ's faith a labor of God's love .
 
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Do you think it is possible for corrupted dying, powerless flesh and blood to enter the kingdom of God?
I believe the Spirit of God is in my heart, and where God is, His kingdom is. So I believe the kingdom of God is in my heart. The kingdom is here, and yet not fully. The kingdom of God has entered my flesh and blood.
 
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what is your explanation of how Elijah rebukes his servant saying "did you not know i was with you in spirit when you joined his chariot"
meaning.. the servant knew he was being watched.


The mutual gift of prophecy are always two fold .

Empowering the one sent and giving power to hear or believe . We edify the sender not the one sent or the one that is given the faith to hear the will of God and perform it to his good pleasure .Christ faith mutually working in two or three .

Roman2 : 11-12 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ's) both of you and me.

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;
 
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So then no need to be born again?
Of course we have to be born again, but it has nothing to do with a special enabling.
All are born with the the ability to doubt. Doubt is not the opposite of biblical faith
All are born with the ability to doubt and to have faith. What do you mean doubt is not the opposite of faith? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Who cares what is the opposite?
(Christ power working his creatures)
Whattttt???!!!

Jesus doesn't work in anyone to enable them. That is a false Luther and Calvin teaching that came from Augustine, etc.
No faith or unbelief is the opposite of believing .
That doesn't make any sense.
"No faith or unbelief is the opposite of believing"??????
Of course it is.
Even if you say it isn't and insist on it---WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make?
What on earth do you think you are disproving?
In that way the letter of the law (death) it kills not just wounds .
The letter of the law that kills is the part that says a person has to be put to death if they do a certain sin.
That does NOT mean to obey Jesus' preserved words kills us!
 
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Yes salvation in its entirety is a work of Christ's faith a labor of God's love .
The work of God the work of God the work of God...

WE have to do the work of God and that means we have to do what Jesus says to do we have to obey Jesus.
 
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Everyone is afraid to say we have to do something! We. have to. obey. JESUS.

Jesus tells us what to do to get saved.

Jesus says change to that like a little child who is ready to obey everything God says to do---if we don't do that---WE WILL NEVER ENTER.

We have to do that!!! WE DO.

God doesn't do it for us.

…unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven; Matthew 18:3.


What else do we have to do??? JESUS TELLS US.

He tells us to REPENT OF OUR SINS.

Luke 13:1–5—“Except Ye Repent, Ye Shall All Likewise Perish


WE have to obey.

WE have to do what Jesus says to do, or we won't get saved.
 
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The work of God the work of God the work of God...

WE have to do the work of God and that means we have to do what Jesus says to do we have to obey Jesus.

Yes it is that work of God that works in us (not of us) to both reveal the good will and empower us to perform it . jesu did it with delight some murmur and kick aginst the pricks like Jonah .

.The gospel

Philipians 2: 13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

If it is not God that works in us (not of us) to both reveal the good will of eternal God and empower us to perform it .Then who the father of lies?
 
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Jesus doesn't work in anyone to enable them. That is a false Luther and Calvin teaching that came from Augustine, etc.
Agree with you on that point. The choice to obey God does not require anyone to be changed internally( i think the faith to believe God exists is a byproduct of sin which brings doubt) it wouldn't surprise me if everyone is born knowing God exists. they just do nothing with their own personal conviction of sin and stay in darkness rather than asking God to forgive them.

For example as early as age 3-5 i was pondering the meaning of life while playing with useless toys in the church nursery. these memories came to mind after i was complaining to God about various matters. i've always known God exists, faith has nothing to do with that for me.
 
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Agree with you on that point. The choice to obey God does not require anyone to be changed internally( i think the faith to believe God exists is a byproduct of sin which brings doubt) it wouldn't surprise me if everyone is born knowing God exists. they just do nothing with their own personal conviction of sin and stay in darkness rather than asking God to forgive them.

For example as early as age 3-5 i was pondering the meaning of life while playing with useless toys in the church nursery. these memories came to mind after i was complaining to God about various matters. i've always known God exists, faith has nothing to do with that for me.

The choice to obey God does requires we first hear him that works in them to both reveal his will and empower them to do it . The faith or power of Christ . . is his labor of love .

Catholic say its their suffering labor and if they fall short then its off to limbo and purgatory to wonder ,wonder, wonder with no end (salvation) in sight

.Either Christ does all the work required for salvation or he does nothing. he will not share his glory with dying flesh and blood . jesus said his flesh profits for zero that it ios the unseen Holy Spirit of the father that alone can bring new Spirit Life.

Phipipians2: 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

Christ who is of one mind always does whatsoever his soul pleases without the help of the creature he performs that which he appoints to us .

He has appointed all men to die and never rise again .In his mercy he has elected some to new life.

How did you know it was the God of scriptures you were complaining to in the nursery and not just your conscience or imagination ?
 
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I would ask you the same question with regard to your current relationship with God
Faith comes by hearing the word of God .as it is written . He has not added any new revelations for two thousand years .We have the perfect

In that way he can save a baby even in the womb but again without the hearing of His faith as a labor of His love no man can come to Him .

Luke 1: 41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

David was reborn in the womb as well as the Son of man Jesus
 
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On March 13, 2000, I started at a five-day retreat called, "Five Days Of Healing." After four days of solid bible teaching, and four evenings of doing business with God, on the morning of March 17, we had our deliverance session. After the class prayed the given prayer, the Spirit of God pushed all of us down onto the floor. For the next half-hour or so, the staff worked in conjunction with the Holy Spirit to free us from demonic oppression. This local parachurch ministry has been doing this since the 1970s. I thank the Lord for this ministry as I have received much freedom from it.
 
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I would definitely be interested in hearing some specifics on that.

Having read both the theophostic prayer ministry manual and John sandfords transformation of the inner man book, and from my own experiences with other Christians...

It seems to me the average Christian is running on maybe 5% deliverance or even less.
 
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I would definitely be interested in hearing some specifics on that.

Having read both the theophostic prayer ministry manual and John sandfords transformation of the inner man book, and from my own experiences with other Christians...

It seems to me the average Christian is running on maybe 5% deliverance or even less.
"Blessing Or Curse, You Can Choose," and "They Shall Expel Demons" are 2 books I'd recommend. "Release From The Curse," and "Basics Of Deliverance" are 2 videos available on You Tube and are used by the ministry that runs the retreat I went to. All 4 are by Derek Prince.
 
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