Religious unspiritual people will do anything to appear godly among themselves.
It would not be wisdom to believe this drivel by Got Questions.org Again, they are totally off the beam. What do you think?Greetings,
the article is definitely not supportive of the word of faith movement! It does raise some valid points which perhaps could be better explained.
As it is, I was thinking about this subject only about half an hour ago, before you even posted. When the Israelites were in Egypt, the turning point for them which gave them the deliverance, was when they obeyed the LORD and did as He said, using the blood of the lamb; upon the door frame of their dwelling place. Up until then, the miracles and signs did not effectuate release from slavery and oppression. Those things were given, leading up to the blood, which saved them from the death that came upon all those who did not have the blood upon the door posts and mantles. Important not to forget that they also were doing so in obedience by faith according to what the LORD commanded through His servant, Moses, who himself was drawn out, rescued, saved and called to testify to what the LORD told Him to speak.
The article tends to downplay the significance of blood, all blood in general and the shed blood of Christ our Lord more specifically. What do you think?
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“Pleading the blood” is actually a legal term. Think of it like a lawyer pleading his case before the judge. He presents evidence and facts to support his case. We have examples of this term in the Old Testament (1 Samuel 24:15; Psalm 43:1).It would not be wisdom to believe this drivel by Got Questions.org Again, they are totally off the beam. What do you think?
Is it your opinion then that 'pleading the blood' is wrong? Note that the word 'rapture' is not used in the bible either...Nor is gravity, electricity, cars, computers or a raft of other things we 'believe' in.Plead the blood is not in the Bible. Seems man made.
I'm sorry Cudabob, that is a very very elementary, super simplistic definition of 'sound doctrine' and so incomplete.....For example Act of teaching or that which is taught. The use of the term in Scripture, however, is broader than a simple reference to information passed on from one person to another or from one generation to the next. Christianity is a religion founded on a message of good news rooted in the significance of the life of Jesus Christ. In Scripture, then, doctrine refers to the entire body of essential theological truths that define and describe that message ( 1 Tim 1:10 ; 4:16 ; 6:3 ; Titus 1:9 ). The message includes historical facts, such as those regarding the events of the life of Jesus Christ ( 1 Cor 11:23 ). But it is deeper than biographical facts alone. As J. Gresham Machen pointed out years ago, Jesus' death is an integral historical fact but it is not doctrine. Jesus' death for sins ( 1 Cor 15:3 ) is doctrine. Doctrine, then, is scriptural teaching on theological truths.Not a term Jesus or the Apostles used. Sound doctrine is adhering to the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles.
Not sure that a Christian needs to "plead" anything? We are to share the gospel, not plead the blood.
Kinda like the term "you gotta take it to the cross". Not in the Bible.
Well my friend, I need to point out then, that you are living outside that sound doctrine...You use many things, you discuss many things, you believe in many things that the bible does not talk about. As I posted above.."gravity, electricity, cars, computers or a raft of other things we 'believe' in." are not talked about by Jesus, Paul or any other person in the bible...They are not mentioned at all in any part of the book...Bad doctrine to believe or use these things?OK, but I think the teachings of Jesus and Paul and the apostles pretty much covers the issue of sound doctrine.
But, as I mentioned earlier, I don't see "plead the blood" in my definition of sound doctrine. Paul defined the gospel
in 1 Cor 15. I think we should keep it simple like that.
1 Cor 15 Let me now remind you, dear brothers and sisters, of the Good News I preached to you before. You welcomed it then, and you still stand firm in it. 2 It is this Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you—unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place.
3 I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said.4 He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.
Ok Cudabob...It seems obvious you want to stick with a religious notion. and not depend on the Holy Spirit to teach you...Let's just leave this alone. At least I see no basis for discussion here...Jesus, Paul and the others taught concepts, precepts and not law. Let me know when you are ready for biblical truth...I'll give you some...I think when Paul told Timothy to adhere to sound doctrine, Paul
could only be referring to Jesus' teachings, Paul's teachings, and
the teachings of the other Apostles.
Instead of talking about electricity and cars, etc, lets stick with Biblical truths,
and things of the Spirit of God. I prefer to believe what the Bible actually teaches.
The Mormon angel Moroni is not in the Bible. That does not make him real.
LOL Well you could pipe up sometimes. I love your sharesGreetings brothers
I am not getting involved in your brotherly discussion.
However, from a moderation point of view, please ensure that you do back up what you say with scripture.
Forever O Lord, Thy Word is settled in heaven.