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Birth Control

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Goodo Kit. Yes we/men are often wrong.
Hey:

Please by all means if you see me act like a dummy challenge me.
You see there are a couple reasons I came back to the forum. One was I became mislead by the words of men. I would get into all these great theological discussions and by doing so I began putting the wisdom of man ahead of the wisdom of God.

Just like the story of the man picking up sticks. I listened to the modern religion of man, oh how mean is God, if I was God I would not do such a thing, I am so much better than God. Surely God needs to learn compassion.

Understand?? Sure you do, you challenged what I said. I see on the forum many dangerous things, where they may or could lead others to where I was. I was steadily allowing myself to walk away from God. I was listening to the words of men.

I am also here to listen, so all of you can help me with my walk. To cause me to understand if I do not.

Words by men guided by God are good, words of men guided by men are bad.

Great theological discussions can and do lead men away from God. as we become wiser than God.

So you will see much of this message in my words. I fell away, and now return , stronger than I was.

God is our teacher, if we listen he will teach. If we listen to men, and do not test all things, we become led astray.

So I now avoid such things, and just speak from the heart. I seldom quote a scripture, but for sure study them, but avoid separate scriptures as they in themselves can mean different things to all, without the understanding of the entire picture.

So I am just me........

Kit
 
A persons sexual life while single is an area that christians have given advice that often comes from the dark ages. I have been amazed at the stupid ignorant advice given by some who think they are an expert. Dr. James Dobson has written two books for girls and boys and it is solid and Biblical.

When sex between a male and female, married or not, sex is a special Holy Gift given by God. The world and many christians ignore the way God intends sex to be between a man and a woman. Out of marraige sexual involvement is sin. In marriage birth control is generally not examined close enough by most all christian couples. Is it right to kill a egg that has been fertilized? Is causing the the egg to not attach, or die when it is attached to the wall of the womb right? Is abortion ever right? Should we as christians not allow God to determine how many children we have, or is that our right?

Are we so worldly that we adopt the world's way of having both parents work? Must we have the best house, car, and everything money can buy, and so we limit our children so we can
have all we want, except children. What is wrong with a large family? Are we missing God's best so we can "have" the best the worly has to offer? Is the birth control that the world offers what God wants for us? There is a natural birth control that uses the tempature of the womans body that is natural, and cost little or nothing, and causes no harn to either the baby or woman/

So what are not more christians informed about a more natural birth control method?

Think about it, most nonchristians have made our birth control methods, and mostly for unmarried unsaved people.

Have we become so far from God that we no longer consider children one of the reasons God has made sex for marraige. I am old fashion, and much og what I think now has changed as I grew older. I wish my wife and I knew then what we know now.
 
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When sex between a male and female, married or not, sex is a special Holy Gift given by God.
This statement is erroneous. Sex between the unmarried is no gift from God, but is a stolen thrill. Sexuality between a husband and wife, a couple who loves Jesus Christ, and desires to follow Him and honour God are the lawful recipients of that gift.
 
I'm sorry but all this talk of sex as a gift and even capitalizing it as Holy Gift is going too far. The only special Holy Gift (Capital G) from God is the Holy Spirit. Sex is not really a gift in the sense of us being given something that we do not originally have, it is part of nature.

I believe that in God's eyes there is no such thing as "sex before marriage". Sex is not for marriage nor marriage for sex. Sex is marriage. When two become one through intercourse, that is marriage. That should help the unmarried consider that sex "before marriage" is actually more serious than portrayed by society. Then the unmarried should consider that any further acts of sex with any other person is actually adultery.

Modern society portrays sex as one of the highest sources of pleasure. This is not true. Take away the "stardom" of sex that is promoted by pornography, the media, and Hollywood.. and call it for what it really is. Then the unmarried should see that behind sex is a fundamental biological urge that everyone has, and that sex is not the same as portrayed in the movies, and that the only true source of lasting joy and pleasure is to experience an intimate relationship with the Father through Jesus Christ.
 
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Considering Scripture (our authority in all matters pertaining to faith - not science books, human reasoning, or common consensus) gives no instruction regarding birth control, this is the only Scripture I would answer your question with:

Rom 14:22 As for the faith you do have, have it as your own conviction before God. How blessed is the person who has no reason to condemn himself because of what he approves!

Blessings

Well said. I'm not a woman so I don't know the consequences to the body but let us approach this from the perspective of being guided by Biblical principles.

Now, here is the answer. To get the answer we would ask Jesus because obviously He knows everything.

So what would Jesus say?

Well if you read scripture time and time when people brought a situation to Jesus, from the lady caught in adultrey to the issue of paying taxes to the issue of divorce, Jesus addressed the root of the issue not just the surface or presenting problem.

I beg to challenge all that if Jesus was speaking on this issue He would not answer it as we would expect but as He mostly did He would ask questions to have us take a look at out hearts to really see what it is all about. So let me lead you on that process.

So ask yourself these questions when it comes to this topic.

1. Who is most important in your life? God, your spouse, yourself or your Children?

2. If God told you to not take any contraceptives would you, could you obey Him. How would if make you feel? ( Don't think about right or wrong, but just if you had to obey, similar to how God to Abraham to kill his son and Abraham knew that murder was a sin)

3. If God told you that you could use contraceptives, could you obey Him or would you feel guilt?
( Don't think about right or wrong, but just if you had to obey, similar to how God to Abraham to kill his son and Abraham knew that murder was a sin)

4. What aspect of God's character if any comes to mind when you think about contraceptives?

5. Do contraceptives glorify God and bring people closer to God or are they a tool of the enemy that promotes sexual sin?

6. Do you want to know what God really thinks about this issue or do you want God to affirm what you already believe?

7. If you are seeking truth, if God's position was opposite of what you currently believe about this topic, would you obey or hold fast to what you think is right?

8. The enemy works normally through our desires of the flesh, promoting the works of the flesh ,but; God works through the Holy Spirit to bear Spiritual Fruit. Which direction would one take on this topic if their flesh was leading them and which direction would one take if the Spirit was leading?

9. What are the harms of contraceptives? Are does pleasing to God?

10. What are the benefits of contraceptives? Are they pleasing to God?

Obviously I didn't give an answer but just questions to reflect on. Most people (myself included) at times we are in the flesh and have our minds made up. We don't seek truth, because the truth demands a response and often times that looks like change. Ask yourself when was the last time you changed your view about any issue in life based on looking at scripture. If you can't think of the last time then be cautious because I assure you that no one in this flesh is 100% right about everything they believe. The key is to be humble and earnestly seek truth and God will reveal His Will. But the problem is most don't seek truth, because the truth often requires us to
change.
 
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One key issue that I have changed my mind on based on the Bible is abortion. I won't say which way.

But if you have never in recent memory changed your mind on anything, ethier you already know it all (I doubt it, remember humility is a mark of a Child of God as God opposes the prideful) or you have sadly kept a closed mind on many issues.

It can be scary to change our position on a key issue because our beliefs determine how we see the world, how we treat people, and what our expectation of God and others are. Changing simple positions on issues like gay marriage, or a woman's role, or the eternal or not aspect of hellfire, or what Salvation is, or if God created the world in 7 literal days, such changes ion those topics means that our whole world view would need to change, and many people don't want to change. They don't want to start doing things differently.

It is similar to a racist being told that slavery is wrong in the 1830s but refuses to believe. For them if they believe it is wrong them their conscience will convict them of doing wrong. They would have to start working the fields themselves. They would loose money. Their quality of life would go down. So that person holds on to what they believe because they don't want to live in a world where what they are doing is wrong.

Likewise I'm still not saying yea or nay on the contraceptive issue but rather just pointing to each of us(myself included) that we need to examine how open we really are to hearing God's Truth , and if we heard it, would be change if we needed to.

That is the real question, not if contraceptives are a sin but are we earnestly seeking God's truth or are we married to our positions no matter what(evidenced by the fact that our mind has not yet changed on anything )?

Once we get saved the process of sanctification starts. We start growing in the faith. This growth means that our old ways of thinking change as the Holy Spirit works in us. He works so that many positions ( not all but many) that we had that was similar with the carnal world we find to be contray to the will of God.

1. Does the church have the same position as the carnal world on this topic? If so, is that a problem or is it OK to be the same as the world on this issue? ( As some issues are OK to be the same with the world like eating healthy whereas others are not, like the free sex movement)
 
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My stance on birth control based off following scripture and story.
"Indication of possible birth control or miscarriage in Numbers 5:27"

1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

Num 5:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Num 5:12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,
Num 5:13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;
Num 5:14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:
Num 5:15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.
Num 5:16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD:
Num 5:17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:
Num 5:18 And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:
Num 5:19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
Num 5:20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
Num 5:21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
Num 5:22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.
Num 5:23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:
Num 5:24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.
Num 5:25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar:
Num 5:26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.
Num 5:27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.
 
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@Repent

You said
"So suffer, and be silent like a saint.
Make the Lord proud.
Show him you follow his ways.
A pill will not save you, Jesus Christ will.
Through prayer and fasting, he will heal you.
Take natural remedies. Just simply eating healthy helps.
And if its life threating.. (which i know its not.) Make peace with God and go to heaven were you belong.

Pharmacia was created to cause more damage then good.
Its practically poison.

I love Jesus so deeply, i would give up the world to please him.
You should too."
And @BrotherMike you said

Wow

While there are certain Groups of Christians that believe in nothing but faith Healing, (Notice the news of the dead children.) It is hard to believe that God has not given us the technology for medicine. The Holy Ghost is the author of witty inventions.

I am what you call Word of Faith, I coughed blood for six months and did not go to the doctor. I stood firm, and did not budge. The last time it happened half filled a sink with blood. My wife was very worried. I laughed out loud and said devil, this does not move me. I can cough blood until I am 120 years old and still be perfectly healthy. That was the last Day I coughed blood.

I would never recommend that to anyone. Get to the Doctor, we can pray form there.
what you say has some elements of truth, SOME. Not everyone is at the same faith level, and belief system. We have to go with what we can believe for.
The word says he gives his beloved Sleep. Some take pills which can be harmful to sleep. Why not just believe the Word? Some do not have the revelation.
I take aspirin for headache, (Which is hardly ever) Ya, I could go get my bible and get in my scriptures, then believe. But aspirin works just fine.
When I think about the subject of birth control these are my thoughts.
First I will agree with Repent and state that there are wealth of natural remedies
that work but since you cannot patent a plant, the drug companies prefer to make a product that can
be patented instead of telling you about the natural plants that work. Their goal is to have people
on long term medication for dependency so the cash flow keeps coming.

I also would agree with BrotherMike and I believe that God in His wisdom provides us insights with modern
technology to help us. For example, some of the medical procedures have done wonders.

Concerning birth control pills, I am curious if there is a natural herbal solution to achieve the same goal?
If so it would seem more favorable because I've heard of many bad side effects with birth control pills, and
in the mental health field I've noticed a strong correlation to women having anxiety and panic attacks
related to taking those pills. I've also heard that as a result of take BC pills for so long, when women do
try to have children it becomes difficult.

I am not preaching against the concept of birth control, as I don't see where scripture definitively condemns it,
however it would seem that if the pill one is taking has having terrible side effects (as is the case with most modern medicines)
then it is likely not of God.

For example, think for a moment about those commercials in which they say something to the effect "This medication may call thoughts of suicide".
Yea, I don't think that is from God. I've never gotten suicide thoughts from eating a plant, you gotten ask yourself, if something
you are putting in your body is messing with your thoughts, emotions, and possible your spirit, what in the world is going on?

With that said about certain medications, I do see our knowledge of the body leading to things such as
prosthetic limps and noninvasive laser surgery, etc, as blessings from God.
 
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I think many have a bad taste in their mouth regarding birth control because
often the secular world uses it as a form of having sex without having children.

Obviously most Christians will frown upon that and thus have a negative view of birth control.
 
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Is Birth Control a Sin?

Classic church doctrine since the time of Saint Augustine and before has condemned contraceptive practices as sinful. Is contraception really a sin, and if not, what types of birth control are acceptable for the Christian? This debate has taken on even greater significance with the recent controversy surrounding the Roman Catholic denunciation of contraceptives in poverty-stricken Africa, which some fear contributes to overpopulation, sexually transmitted disease, and perennially poor families.

Biblical Verses Used to Prohibit Contraceptives

By far the most common biblical story used to support the anti-contraceptive stance is account of Onan in the book of Genesis. According to the account:

“At that time, Judah left his brothers and went down to stay with a man of Adullam named Hirah. There Judah met the daughter of a Canaanite man named Shua. He married her and lay with her; she became pregnant and gave birth to a son, who was named Er. She conceived again and gave birth to a son and named him Onan. She gave birth to still another son and named him Shelah. It was at Kezib that she gave birth to him.

Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death.

Then Judah said to Onan, “Lie with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so he put him to death also.”
[Genesis 38:1-10]

Many seem to consider this a knock-down case for the anti-contraception stance, but does this verse really demonstrate that contraception is sinful? It seems to me almost embarrassingly obvious that, in context, Onan’s sin was deliberately refusing to birth a son for his brother and his brother’s wife. There is no good reason to consider this passage as evidence that God explicitly condones contraceptive practices per se.

It is important also to realize the cultural context in which this story took place. After all, this story may seem strange to us in modern society, who would be shocked at the implication that we should have sex with our brother’s wife if she was without a child. But in ancient times, maintaining a family line was essential for survival (children took care of their parents in old age) and important to maintain honor. This is why Biblical characters are often disgraced and ashamed of being barren, and rejoice and praise God when He gives them a child (see Luke 1:24-25, Genesis 30: 22-24, and Genesis 21:1-7 for examples). Sons were needed to maintain the family line. This is why Onan had such a duty to fulfill in the first place.

Thus, it is quite clear that Onan’s sin was refusing to birth a son for his deceased brother. It remains possible that contraceptive practices are sinful, but the story of Onan certainly doesn’t prove such a thing.
Some will argue that the command to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ found in Genesis 1:28 argues against the use of contraceptives. However, at best this demonstrates that we have an obligation to have children, it does not prove that we should have as many kids as possible or that we should never use contraceptives. This is simply inconclusive.

Thus, it seems apparent that there are no clear instances where contraceptive practices are condemned in the Bible, and we should therefore be very skeptical of those who want to make the universal claim that birth control is wrong.

Other Arguments Against Contraceptives

Some claim that use of birth control is inherently disrespectful to the marriage union, it fails to take into account the fact that children are a blessing from God, and it separates procreation from sex (which is supposedly sinful). In addition to being speculative, these objections fail to show that contraception is always wrong. After all, some may decide to use birth control to stop from having more kids for the time being due to a financial situation or some other factor. Birth control does not necessarily entail that a couple never has kids, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that they have to stop having kids. Obviously, a couple who use birth control within the confines of marriage are not implicitly demonstrating that they don’t believe children are a blessing from God. They may just not be ready yet, or they may already have ten children and be unable to support more.

Probably one of the most common arguments against birth control is that the Church has almost unanimously condemned it throughout history. However, this point only holds sway for Catholics who believe that church tradition is authoritative. Without such a prior commitment to church tradition, the unanimity of opposition to contraceptives is no argument against them, though we should take the views of the church’s leaders, and the evidence offered for them, into account.

There are also a slew of claims that birth control is bad for society. Supposedly, it increases abortion frequency, encourages premarital sex, leads to the spread of STDs, etc. I’m willing to grant all of this, but it clearly has no bearing on whether or not, at the foundational level, birth control is wrong. I am only contending that birth control is acceptable when it does not involve abortion and it is within the confines of a marriage. The fact that contraceptives have been misused outside of this context does not prove that contraceptives are wrong in and of themselves.

Finally, many claim that we should not use birth control because we should let God decide when we have children. Using contraceptives might interfere with His perfect will for us. Furthermore, it is better for us to trust God, and believe that he will provide for us financially and emotionally to handle as many children as we have naturally.

This objection makes the mistake of believing that God’s will is only achieved through natural causes, but can be ruined by human choices. In reality, God works through our choices to accomplish His will. Moreover, in most other areas of our life we recognize the need to make responsible choices rather than sitting back and relying on God to take care of us. Nobody waits around at home believing that God will just provide them with the amount of food that they need- they go to work, get a paycheck, and buy enough food to survive. In reality, God gives us the ability to make responsible choices for ourselves.

Arguments for Contraceptives in the Bible

Can we adduce any evidence in favor of birth control in the Bible? There are no direct verses in support, but, I believe that the Biblical testimony argues against the claim made by many opponents of birth control that it is inherently sinful to separate sex from procreation.
For example, Paul wrote;

“The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer.”
[1 Corinthians 7:3-5]

This verse clearly demonstrates that the purpose of marriage is not only for procreation. Paul tells us that we should not withhold from our spouses. Thus, it is not merely ok to have sex within marriage for pleasure, it is actually mandatory.

Moreover, I would argue that the entire book Song of Solomon argues against the idea that procreation is the only purpose of sex. I don’t think one could fairly read the book and conclude that God only gave us the gift of sex so that we can produce children.

Other Arguments in Favor of Contraceptives


There is another major problem with claiming that it is sinful to separate procreation from marital sex- what about couples who are infertile, either by old age or by physical limitations? Is it wrong for people who are infertile to have sex? Is it wrong for old people to have sex? Almost everyone has to admit that there is nothing morally wrong with infertile sex; in fact, most would think it morally repulsive to claim that such people should never have sex. Moreover, this would also conflict with Paul’s teaching about fulfilling marital duties.

Finally, sometimes there are very good moral reasons to use birth control. A couple who wants to limit the number of children they have because they can’t support more, either for financial reasons or because they want to be able to spend enough individual time with each child, should use birth control. Doing otherwise could harm the family as a whole or the current children in particular. This is not to say that all couples should limit themselves to a few children- this must be considered on a case by case basis. I have nothing against large families- in fact, I would probably be perfectly happy having 9 or 10 kids. Obviously, however, this isn’t for everyone, so for those couples who can’t support so many children, contraceptive use may be morally justified and even morally good.

This point becomes particularly relevant when we consider the case in Africa, where some Catholics discourage use of birth control. Many argue that this has worsened problems like the spread of STDs (especially AIDS) and created families with too many children to be supported with even bare minimal needs. While the specific cases may be debatable, these problems help highlight the possible relevance of the discussion of birth control for alleviating worldwide suffering.

Conclusion


There are no sound Biblical arguments against the use of birth control, nor are there any convincing extra-Biblical reasons to prohibit their use. The story of Onan, frequently used to demonstrate that birth control is immoral, must be ripped wildly out of context to be thought to have any relevance to the debate. The primary natural reasoning for avoiding birth control- that we should trust God to provide for our needs and decide the number of children we have- is based on the misconception that God cannot work His will through human choices (a point which we recognize in almost all other areas of our lives).

Since I believe that abortion takes the life of an innocent human being, any birth control methods which involve or have a risk of abortion of any kind is immoral. Yet, there are several responsible forms of birth control that can reasonably be used within the context of marriage. Couples should therefore feel free to decide for themselves whether, and when, use of contraceptives is appropriate and desirable.

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Ok...So the Romanist church says using contraceptives of any kind is a sin....They also teach that sex is ONLY for procreation...Recreational sex between a married couple is a sin....No lie. I was taught that in a Romanist school.....So....Show me a single verse that addresses that in the bible. If there is no scripture that says its a sin, then it is no sin.
 
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Ok...So the Romanist church says using contraceptives of any kind is a sin....They also teach that sex is ONLY for procreation...Recreational sex between a married couple is a sin....No lie. I was taught that in a Romanist school.....So....Show me a single verse that addresses that in the bible. If there is no scripture that says its a sin, then it is no sin.

The Roman Catholic church has some practices related to sex that many Protestant denominations don't have.
For example the whole priest and celibacy thing, unfortunately it seems that has led to many issues, mainly the problems with child molestation.

1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
 
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The Roman Catholic church has some practices related to sex that many Protestant denominations don't have.
For example the whole priest and celibacy thing, unfortunately it seems that has led to many issues, mainly the problems with child molestation.

1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
I think that Romanist celibacy thing is devilish
 
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Doesn't the book of the Song of Soloman talk in a positive way about a man and woman enjoying each other / married/ physically.

And someone was suggesting that the only reason for sex is to have a baby. That married people can't simply enjoy each other's bodies' -- the closeness that physical intimacy produces. Besides -- how does Any couple know that 'this time' they will get pregnant. Having said That -- lots of times a woman Will get pregnant because she feels Really Ready about mid-way through her cycle -- and -whomever she's With Will get her pregnant -- unless their ***** count is very low.

Birth control Should be totally up to the married couple / their Dr. if necessary.
 
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Doesn't the book of the Song of Soloman talk in a positive way about a man and woman enjoying each other / married/ physically.

And someone was suggesting that the only reason for sex is to have a baby. That married people can't simply enjoy each other's bodies' -- the closeness that physical intimacy produces. Besides -- how does Any couple know that 'this time' they will get pregnant. Having said That -- lots of times a woman Will get pregnant because she feels Really Ready about mid-way through her cycle -- and -whomever she's With Will get her pregnant -- unless their ***** count is very low.

Birth control Should be totally up to the married couple / their Dr. if necessary.
LOL The word is '*****'
 
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