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Are churches and Ministers blocking the door of the entrance of women into the "Salvation of God" but only guiding them into being good "nominal Chris

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This could be the greatest harm and deceitfunessl and payback of Satan to women for giving birth to the "Son of God"! Churches and ministers seldom address women about their sins, if they do, they address their sins lightly.

The sins, of covetousness, greed, unforgiveness, bitterness, backbiting, and sewing discord between the brotherhood and among themselves, selfishness [if mama ain't happy the whole house ain't going to be happy], gossiping, and adultery and fornication, bikini g string wearing bathing suits, breast showing costumes all are address likely. And if they do anything wrong the man is the cause, These practices runs rapid like a mad dog in heat in the institutionalize church.

churches and ministers mostly always blame men for women debaucheries, I say I can not remember or I cannot remember where I have heard the voice of any say: "women keep your clothes on and your legs close"! You sure are not going to hear these " sanctifying words" in the "institutionalizse church" but you will hear words "get a divorce" remarry and commit adultery as long as you pay your tithes and offerings
and God will bless you with a new spouse"!
If these things are not address, this deception will cause Hell to be ran over and full of women as well as men! "Now go ahead and ""stone me" because I have told you the truth!

Women according to the Bible has cause a many of men to be cast into the chambers of death! Women do not be fooled, stop doing all of this sinning, read you bibles and own up to your sins and repent and turn from all of your wicked and deceitful ways, confess your sins! If you do not, you are surely going to in up in Hell! Being a female do not exempt you from the "Wrath of The Almighty GOD"! REPENT for the Kingdom of GOD is at hand. And tell your daughters, tell your female friends, your female neighbors to choose "Salvation over damnation" choose "Heaven over the lake of Fire" tell them the truth! Your will be judge also by the things that also come out of your mouth!

(Proverbs 7).
25Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
26For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
27Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
This is a warning to men. Do not be this kind of woman!


Many will call this,hate speech, I call it the truth, that will get you crucified! Now are you ready to be crucified for your faith, are you willing to lay down your life for your Lord, are you seeking to save your life and are you to lose your life for the Gospel sakes. Are you seeking to please man or God? Am I trying to please myself? "If I am trying to please man, I have become an enemy of God". Are you seeking to please the creature or the creator?
Again, am I trying to please myself, if so, I am a enemy of God. A servant pleases his Lord and not himself. Why call me "Lord, Lord" and do not what I say?

Women Satan wants you to be a "nominal Christian" by dancing trinkets before your eyes and making you queens instead of servants [bond slaves] , Satan wants you to be unsatisfied instead of contentment with what you have, but Godliness with contentment is of great gain.

Women do not desire the worlds gifts, there is only one good and perfect gift it comes from above, it is "eternal life" all other gifts, fades away and makes people jealous and will be destroyed by the "Lord God Almighty"! Remember the road unto eternal life is a hard and narrow path and many will not find it and there be few on it. Which path will you choose?
 
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Plough Boy, I'm not sure that I understand your point? Are you trying to be provocative?

In the Bible there are fem heroines, Sarah, Miriam, Deborah, Ruth, Queen Sheba .... and villains, Delilah, Jezebel, Athaliah to name a few, and of course males on both devides.

The sins you recount are all too common amongst guys as well as fems so I'm not sure why you point fingers? You make good points but I think they apply equally to both sexes, or am I missing something?

When the Bible says ALL have fallen short of the glory of God, Roman's 3:23 I think it means all. Keep me posted.

Best wishes,



Andy
 
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This could be the greatest harm and deceitfunessl and payback of Satan to women for giving birth to the "Son of God"! Churches and ministers seldom address women about their sins, if they do, they address their sins lightly.

The sins, of covetousness, greed, unforgiveness, bitterness, backbiting, and sewing discord between the brotherhood and among themselves, selfishness [if mama ain't happy the whole house ain't going to be happy], gossiping, and adultery and fornication, bikini g string wearing bathing suits, breast showing costumes all are address likely. And if they do anything wrong the man is the cause, These practices runs rapid like a mad dog in heat in the institutionalize church.

churches and ministers mostly always blame men for women debaucheries, I say I can not remember or I cannot remember where I have heard the voice of any say: "women keep your clothes on and your legs close"! You sure are not going to hear these " sanctifying words" in the "institutionalizse church" but you will hear words "get a divorce" remarry and commit adultery as long as you pay your tithes and offerings
and God will bless you with a new spouse"!
If these things are not address, this deception will cause Hell to be ran over and full of women as well as men! "Now go ahead and ""stone me" because I have told you the truth!

Women according to the Bible has cause a many of men to be cast into the chambers of death! Women do not be fooled, stop doing all of this sinning, read you bibles and own up to your sins and repent and turn from all of your wicked and deceitful ways, confess your sins! If you do not, you are surely going to in up in Hell! Being a female do not exempt you from the "Wrath of The Almighty GOD"! REPENT for the Kingdom of GOD is at hand. And tell your daughters, tell your female friends, your female neighbors to choose "Salvation over damnation" choose "Heaven over the lake of Fire" tell them the truth! Your will be judge also by the things that also come out of your mouth!

(Proverbs 7).
25Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
26For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
27Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
This is a warning to men. Do not be this kind of woman!


Many will call this,hate speech, I call it the truth, that will get you crucified! Now are you ready to be crucified for your faith, are you willing to lay down your life for your Lord, are you seeking to save your life and are you to lose your life for the Gospel sakes. Are you seeking to please man or God? Am I trying to please myself? "If I am trying to please man, I have become an enemy of God". Are you seeking to please the creature or the creator?
Again, am I trying to please myself, if so, I am a enemy of God. A servant pleases his Lord and not himself. Why call me "Lord, Lord" and do not what I say?

Women Satan wants you to be a "nominal Christian" by dancing trinkets before your eyes and making you queens instead of servants [bond slaves] , Satan wants you to be unsatisfied instead of contentment with what you have, but Godliness with contentment is of great gain.

Women do not desire the worlds gifts, there is only one good and perfect gift it comes from above, it is "eternal life" all other gifts, fades away and makes people jealous and will be destroyed by the "Lord God Almighty"! Remember the road unto eternal life is a hard and narrow path and many will not find it and there be few on it. Which path will you choose?
It sounds as though you have been badly hurt mate, but don't lay it at the door of all women Most of the women I know are amazing people, who love the Lord, dress modestly and conduct themselves in a Godly way. I pray the Lord will give you peace.
 
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I am just saying we hear about the sins of men 24 hours 7 days a week almost every minute that the pulpit is mounted on the news. So we know we are sinners, we are condemn for watching porn, adulteries, belittle women, so we know we are sinners whom Jesus died for. He came to save sinners we are called to repent of our sins, and the church reminds us of it. So we know he died for us. And we confess our sins and repent because we are help by the reminder of God's Word, people and the "Holy Spirit".
But women don't need Jesus or need forgiveness or churches and ministers have no need to address their sins they are committing, if there is no regonizing of sins there is no cause to repent or confessing your sins or a need to change your wicked ways. But when I read my bible, and God points out my sins and churches and minster don't! This is a known fact. Now days even 'women in the church is calling "Holy Spirit" a female for years, and now they are saying "God" is a woman! And no one is speaking up! Witch craft is entered the church, recognizing Greek Goddessess of sororities are accepted in the Christian church who have Christian principles, they doing modern dance in their services and Christian women are parading their girlfriends and boyfriend in the church. And no one will say anything. They marry 3 and 4 times always looking for a Godly man! And they don't know the different between "Holy" and unholy" actions. I only can testify by the things I have witness and heard by their own mouth. Now how do you think they have gotten that way, these women have been in the church for years. A will quote scripture again and again, the church and ministers has over look with 20/20 vision year after year, a little leaven in the meal and finally the whole lump has been spoiled and no one can tell the difference between the "Holy from the unholy". All of these things are being done in the name of love for they say: for God is love! This practice is being I know through out the United States! And growing at a alarming rate. And you say these women are on their way to heaven and you better not read the OT in whole but only cherry pick bits and pieces and point out a hand full of imputed righteousness of women.

By not showing and teaching the truth you have become partakers of their sins by refusing to address their sins that they be saved. Martha knew she was a woman of the night, so did Rahab, Jesus ancestral grandmother and the woman at the well, knew she was a adulteress. " Jesus ask her where was her husband" she said; she had no husband. Jesus said to her, you spoke the truth, that you have no husband." Then he went on to to say; but you have laid with five other women's husbands and the husband you are sleeping with now is not yours either"! I tell you right now, those women are justified and enter the kingdom of God for they have confess their sins and repented of their wicked ways!

Somebody got to love these women,enough and tell them the truth, they must confess and repent of their wicked ways, and the only way you can know about your un-righteous ways is through the words of the Bible, and not by your own expectations.
 
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It sounds as though you have been badly hurt mate, but don't lay it at the door of all women Most of the women I know are amazing people, who love the Lord, dress modestly and conduct themselves in a Godly way. I pray the Lord will give you peace.
Every time you read your Bible as a whole you see the whole picture" Israel and Judah" is describe as a woman! And her life style pains God's heart. She is describe as a unfaithful woman. How can anyone miss it! If you have the Holy Spirit in you. God does not rejoice over Israel, Israel pains his heart. Israel causes tears to fall from Jesus eyes. If Christ is being form in any Christian heart that person will share His suffering because we strive to have the fellowship of His suffering! This is elementary material. As you grow in Christ you fellowship in the pains and suffering he endured a type of fellowship of him that only the Holy Spirit of God can comfort you. That is one of the reason why he was sending another comforter to us. "Much wisdom, more sorrow, more knowledge, more grief". Christians have become more selfish, and they have no idea what the pain of Agape truly is.

"Know you not how Christ Jesus is being form in you"
 
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One thing for sure I thank God that I did not have to count on churches and ministers to point out my sins, His Word would come to me and convict my spirit, what was wrong, with my conscience that bother me, and it seems other was not bother by the things they said or done. I could hear His word speak to me, before I even knew it was the Word God. Before I even heard it from the mouth of any. Then one day as I begin to read His Word from the beginning, I could identify Words in there in which he spoke to others characters in this book, I would say; oh , my God, I heard those same very words in my life, and spoke the same very words sometimes to a unknown God, I didn't hear it from no preacher no deacon, and certainly no institutional church. He reveal himself to me! And filled me with the power of His Spirit! "Holy Ghost" power like a freight train!
And said; I going tell it on mountain, in the valley and all over this land: "Repent and turn from. All of your wicked ways, for the kingdom of God Is at hand"! And flee from the wrath that is to come! If you listen I'm going to tell it! If You don't want to listen, I going to shake the very dust off of my feet. For a witness on the day of judgment.
 
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One thing for sure I thank God that I did not have to count on churches and ministers to point out my sins, His Word would come to me and convict my spirit, what was wrong, with my conscience that bother me, and it seems other was not bother by the things they said or done. I could hear His word speak to me, before I even knew it was the Word God. Before I even heard it from the mouth of any. Then one day as I begin to read His Word from the beginning, I could identify Words in there in which he spoke to others characters in this book, I would say; oh , my God, I heard those same very words in my life, and spoke the same very words sometimes to a unknown God, I didn't hear it from no preacher no deacon, and certainly no institutional church. He reveal himself to me! And filled me with the power of His Spirit! "Holy Ghost" power like a freight train!
And said; I going tell it on mountain, in the valley and all over this land: "Repent and turn from. All of your wicked ways, for the kingdom of God Is at hand"! And flee from the wrath that is to come! If you listen I'm going to tell it! If You don't want to listen, I going to shake the very dust off of my feet. For a witness on the day of judgment.
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Every time you read your Bible as a whole you see the whole picture" Israel and Judah" is describe as a woman! And her life style pains God's heart. She is describe as a unfaithful woman. How can anyone miss it! If you have the Holy Spirit in you. God does not rejoice over Israel, Israel pains his heart. Israel causes tears to fall from Jesus eyes. If Christ is being form in any Christian heart that person will share His suffering because we strive to have the fellowship of His suffering! This is elementary material. As you grow in Christ you fellowship in the pains and suffering he endured a type of fellowship of him that only the Holy Spirit of God can comfort you. That is one of the reason why he was sending another comforter to us. "Much wisdom, more sorrow, more knowledge, more grief". Christians have become more selfish, and they have no idea what the pain of Agape truly is.

"Know you not how Christ Jesus is being form in you"
If you believe that God is not with Israel, you haven't been taking note of the wars Israel has had since 1948. Israel has faced all the armies of the area Egypt, Jordon, Syria Lebanon. They were out numbered, out gunned, they had old second World war hardware while their enemies had the latest that Russia could supply and they miraculously beat them all. They took the Sinai from Egypt, The Golan Heights from Syria a whole bunch of land from Jordon. and gained dominance over the whole area. All through the wars that have afflicted Israel since it's consepton, they should have been wiped off the face of the earth, but God has had his hand on them and seen them through. Check it out, it's well documented. And to patronise a brother by telling him how a Christian should be, especially when he has been in the battle for over fifty years, is insulting. bless you.
 
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But it is a known fact, that state of Israel are mostly all atheists, they do not believe in God at all, then a very small group are even orthodox, and another very small among are Christians,
You are trying to put words in my mouth. I believe what is recorded in the Bible about God's dealings with the Jewish people. History speaks how he has dealt with a disobedient people. I am Not against Jewish people no, ! The Gospel of Jesus Christ was given to us from the beginning by Jewish people, the Apostles were Jews, the "Holy Scripture" we read was written by Jews. The 12 gates of the heavenly city are name after Jewish MEN, the 12 pillars are named after 12 Jewish Men the Apostles.

God presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ through Jews! God chose these Jews before the foundation of the cosmos. " in Isaac shall thou seed be establish" not seeds but seed" that seed is Jesus" and whosoever is "In" Christ belongs to GOD. Most has no idea what the term means "in Christ", "born from above", " the same Spirit that Raise Jesus from the grave be "in" you will raise you from the grave" we are the body of Christ , we are the Temple of GOD! Can there be anything Greater than this for a human being?

Believe what the Bible says: and lean not on your own understanding or what a man teaches you. Believe it. All creation is about even until now is about completing you into the image of His Son! Who is the true "Israel"! "All Creation is waiting on our completion"! When we all shall be "Reveal"! Our Coronation! There is going to be a celebration and we shall sit at His table and be serve by God.
 
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But it is a known fact, that state of Israel are mostly all atheists, they do not believe in God at all, then a very small group are even orthodox, and another very small among are Christians,

You are trying to put words in my mouth. I believe what is recorded in the Bible about God's dealings with the Jewish people. History speaks how he has dealt with a disobedient people. I am Not against Jewish people no, ! The Gospel of Jesus Christ was given to us from the beginning by Jewish people, the Apostles were Jews, the "Holy Scripture" we read was written by Jews. The 12 gates of the heavenly city are name after Jewish MEN, the 12 pillars are named after 12 Jewish Men the Apostles.

God presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ through Jews! God chose these Jews before the foundation of the cosmos. " in Isaac shall thou seed be establish" not seeds but seed" that seed is Jesus" and whosoever is "In" Christ belongs to GOD. Most has no idea what the term means "in Christ", "born from above", " the same Spirit that Raise Jesus from the grave be "in" you will raise you from the grave" we are the body of Christ , we are the Temple of GOD! Can there be anything Greater than this for a human being?

Believe what the Bible says: and lean not on your own understanding or what a man teaches you. Believe it. All creation is about even until now is about completing you into the image of His Son! Who is the true "Israel"! "All Creation is waiting on our completion"! When we all shall be "Reveal"! Our Coronation! There is going to be a celebration and we shall sit at His table and be serve by God.
PS is there not "Christians" in Russia, is there not true Christians in Syria, is there not true Christians in Egypt, i is there not true children of God in Iran, and in Palestine, are you praying for our brothers and sisters in Christ who live in those countries, who suffer from the bombs and missiles from Israel and the atrocities from the Regimes for in which they live in.
God people comes from all nations. He told Abraham your seed will come out of every nation!
 
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, I didn't hear it from no preacher no deacon, and certainly no institutional church. He reveal himself to me! And filled me with the power of His Spirit! "Holy Ghost" power like a freight train!

So what makes you assume that he cannot do this to anyone else?

Is the Lords arm shortened that it cannot save?
Is the Lord over ruled by a man that ministers falsely?
Can not the Lord choose whom he will call and when he will call them?
Has he not chosen the elect before the foundation of the world?

You know the sovereignty of our Father. Why such a silly question?
 
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So what makes you assume that he cannot do this to anyone else?

Is the Lords arm shortened that it cannot save?
Is the Lord over ruled by a man that ministers falsely?
Can not the Lord choose whom he will call and when he will call them?
Has he not chosen the elect before the foundation of the world?

You know the sovereignty of our Father. Why such a silly question?
This type of question, i would call a primer. Since you did observed the answer to the thread by my testimony. For all of us are not Augustinian in our testimony, some are "pelagian", some are "semi-pelagian", and some are Arminian in their thinking concerning their salvation.

PS and a lot of people have no "salvation testimony at ALL" but they can quote scripture and speak in "tongues".
 
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I'd agree with Trevor -- at some point you've been hurt rather badly --possibly through a bad relationship with a woman.-- something has soured you rather strongly against churches -- women -- that men are told to NOT do lots of things, but women seem to get away with Lots of things in life.

And you Do realize that for every Jezabell there's a man who's taken her up on her very negative personal agenda.

For all the single-moms 'out there' there are men who's contributed substantially to that.
 
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Here we go again people who guess what other people problems is, they know more than jesus, alway guessing, I don't have a problem, I got Jesus! and most so called christians think that is not enough. and you think people need you. well i got good news for you, Jesus died so they don't need us, to tell them what is wrong with us, for we all are sinners. Everybody has a problem. '1st take that beam out of your own eye' then you can see clearly to take the speck out of another's eye" And that go's for all of us! "now if the shoe does not fit, do not put it on", and move on to the next question.
 
Loyal
Here we go again people who guess what other people problems is, they know more than jesus, alway guessing, I don't have a problem, I got Jesus! and most so called christians think that is not enough. and you think people need you. well i got good news for you, Jesus died so they don't need us, to tell them what is wrong with us, for we all are sinners. Everybody has a problem. '1st take that beam out of your own eye' then you can see clearly to take the speck out of another's eye" And that go's for all of us! "now if the shoe does not fit, do not put it on", and move on to the next question.

My younger son had said that he didn't need help getting resettled because "I got Jesus". Well --he was refusing much needed help and has been going steadily down-hill. People Do need other people. THAT is fact. God / the Trinity/ is complete in Himself / Itself. But God Did see fit to create us and this world and everything in it. And when 'we' messed up -- He provided salvation for us. He Wants fellowship with us.
 
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