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Discussion in 'Bible Answers' started by Chad, Nov 24, 2005.

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  1. What Does the Bible Say About Abortion?

    Of all the issues in our culture today, surely abortion is one of the most volatile. Perhaps no other issue has raised so much debate and anguish, plus time and monies spent by various interested parties to educate to public to their views on it. In the midst of such a controversial issue, many simply throw up their hands and vow to stay out of it altogether. In the name of freedom and under the guise of "it isn't my business" many choose to look the other way from this troubling issue, leaving the decision in the hand of lawmakers, doctors, and pregnant woman. Although there are many different issues concerning abortion, the following is designed to focus on what the Bible says about abortion, and the consequences thereof.

    Does God Care?

    What does God say about abortion? Do the millions of abortions that have taken place in this land bother Him? Is a fetus a "real person" in the eyes of God? If so, where does that leave us? If an unborn life is truly just a mere mass of fetal tissue to God, we should want to know. If He considers the life of the woman more important than her unborn child, we should want to know. And if He does consider that unborn life a "real person", and just as important as the life of the mother that bears it, we most certainly should want to know. After all, we are all accountable to God not only for our individual lives, but also as a generation and a nation.

    Thou Shalt Not Kill

    Throughout the Bible God has plenty to say about the taking of an innocent life. Most people in our nation, though they may not be familiar with all of the Ten Commandments, know that "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is listed there somewhere. The word "kill" in this instance, specifically refers to "murder"--a premeditated and deliberate act of taking someone's life. It is different than other forms of taking a life, which could be accidental, or in self-defense. God has different laws regarding different sorts of death. But He continually opposes and speaks against murder, especially murder of the innocent.

    Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land and atonement cannot be made for the land on which the blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it. Do not defile the land where you live. Numbers 35:33-34

    God's judgment against the killing of an innocent life grows out of His love for humankind. The crime of murder is not only an offense against the sanctity of life, it is a pollutant upon the very land we live. God wants to spare us of the variety of ways this pollution is manifested. When the land becomes defiled with sin, people cry out "where is God?" yet they refuse to take responsibility for breaking His laws which were only given to us for our protection and good. Each sin that we commit is not merely an isolated incident, but will set off a chain reaction of other sins if not dealt with. Since the legalization of abortion for instance, child abuse has increased over 1000%. This is the exact opposite of what those who legalized abortion thought it would do since it was assumed that only children who were initially unwanted were abused.

    In Psalm 106 God speaks specifically against killing innocent children and babies. He says of His people: They mingled with the nations and adopted their customs. They worshipped their idols which became a snare to them. They sacrificed their sons and their daughter to demons. They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan and the land was desecrated by their blood.

    When Does Life Begin?

    One may argue here that they agree that it is wrong to murder, but they still don't see how a fetus necessarily qualifies as a human being. Perhaps God doesn't feel the same way about a very young fetus, as He does an older fetus, a newborn, or a 50-year-old. It may be a different issue altogether with Him. Does the Bible say anything specifically about unborn children?

    In Exodus 21:22 God gives a specific law regarding social order for the Israelites. He stated that if two men were fighting and hit a pregnant woman, thus causing her to give birth prematurely, they must be fined according to any damage done to the baby. The fine must be paid in relation to the amount of damage inflicted upon the child. If God would make a law specifically referring to the rights of the unborn, then surely the unborn must mean something to Him!

    It has been stated If the womb had windows, there would be no abortion. As humans, we are not omnipresent and cannot know the full scope of what each human life is worth. We cannot dwell in the womb with a fetus, nor can we see it as it matures. But God can.

    A Scientific View

    Just 18 days after conception, the baby's heart begins to beat. At six weeks, brain waves can be measured. At eight weeks the vital organs are functioning and fingerprints have formed. At nine weeks, the unborn baby is able to feel pain. Over 700,000 abortions each year are performed after this point in the pregnancy. By the beginning of the second month, the unborn child, small as it is, has begun to look distinctly human, though the mother may not even be aware that she is pregnant! By the time the baby is eleven weeks old, he or she breaths (fluid), swallows, digests, sleeps, dreams, wakes, tastes, hears, and feels pain. Babies born prematurely can survive outside the womb as young as 20-25 weeks old. Yet, all that is necessary to make the baby a grown human being is already there from the moment of conception. All it needs is time to mature.

    Former Surgeon General, Dr. C. Everett Koop stated "We now know when life begins because the test-tube baby proves that life begins with conception. What do you have in the dish? An egg and a *****. What do you add to it to get a baby? Nothing." Though it is wee, it is still a real person, just as a crumb of bread is still real bread. No one who has been given the gift of life should dare despise the day of small beginnings. Have we forgotten so quickly that we were once as small?

    "In the tiny, almost invisible thirty two cell blastocyst--in that one gram or so of tissue--there is a physical potential and moral destiny unparalleled in our universe. Next to it, a gram of plutonium is a triviality: plutonium cannot compose a symphony, cannot cure cancer, cannot plan our course to the stars". -Bernard Nathanson, M.D. and former abortionist-

    A Spiritual View

    God said to the prophet Jeremiah, Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. Jeremiah 1:5 God knew this man before he was born. As he was forming in his mother's womb God gave him his personality, talents, and temperament. If his mother had gotten an abortion, the "fetal tissue" she aborted would have been a real person named Jeremiah; a mighty prophet of God and the gift of God's voice to the nations, though she would never have known.

    The Lord hath called me from the womb: from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. Isaiah 49:1 KJV

    Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us within our mothers? Job 31:15

    For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Psalm 139:13-14

    The above verses are only a sampling of the many Biblical references we find to life inside the mother's womb. From them, it is clear that life begins when God creates it, not at some later point in time when it has grown to look like a newborn. God does not judge things according to their stage of development the way humans tend to. According to the above passages, even the tiniest embryo is the subject of His love and care. God sees each of our lives in the realm of our total existence, whether we are yet unborn, a young woman in the prime of her life, or an old man on his deathbed. He is patient with all of us, longing to bring each one of us into His maturity.

    Do We Look Like God?

    To wantonly destroy innocent human life is a crime against God, and a rejection of the truth that we were made in His image. Everything in the universe belongs to Him anyway. The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it, the world and ALL who live in it. Psalm 24:1 Our own lives are a precious gift given to us, but ultimately we belong to God! We are His possessions; we have merely been granted stewardship over our lives, talents, money, time, the earth we live on and the things we "own." Though children pass through us they are not ours, anymore that we are property of our parents. Each of us has been given the gift of life and freedom, for which we are responsible and accountable to God. None of us has the right to deny that same gift to an unborn person. It is an honor to carry that powerful force of another life within our very bodies-- a life made in the very image of God! (Genesis 5:1-2)

    God is no respecter of persons. If He knew Jeremiah in the womb, He knew you too. Do you believe that God lovingly fashioned you and loves you dearly? Do you believe that He has had a plan for your life from the beginning of time? A plan that none other can fulfill in quite the same way you can? That you came to this earth "trailing clouds of glory?" Or do you believe in your heart that you were a mere "accident" and that God has no personal concern for you or your life? Is it easier to believe that you are just a highly evolved animal? An animal (especially an undeveloped one) may certainly be easier to dispose of. It seems somehow even "natural," as the laws of nature lend themselves to the survival of the strong and the equipped. Yet it seems doubtful that even an animal would come up with a way to deliberately kill it's unborn offspring.

    Even the jackals offer their breasts to nurse their young, but my people have become heartless like ostriches in the desert. Lamentations 4:3

    Am I My Brother's Keeper?

    Every 20 seconds another baby is aborted in this country, yet very few seem to notice. Statistically, one out of every three of us will die by abortion, and we will never know what we lost in those lives. Our country goes along its way leaving lawmakers in distant buildings to decide how the carnage should continue. We've bought into the lie that those we dispose of are not real people. It is the same old lie that was used to keep slavery legal, and to exterminate masses of peoples in holocausts all over the world. We should be able to see through it by now, but as usual, most of us let circumstances and the current cultural climate dictate to us what is acceptable or not. Yet God tells us to: Rescue those being led away to death, hold back those staggering toward slaughter. If you say "But we knew nothing of this," does not He who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay each person according to what he has done? Proverbs 24:11

    In our society today we face a myriad of social problems as a result of our hypocrisy. Most of us have had to become somewhat doubleminded just to keep a vestige of sanity. We put warnings on cigarettes and alcohol, that their consumption is dangerous to an unborn child. Yet we deem it perfectly legal, even "responsible" for a mother to have a doctor poison that same child inside her, or rip it to shreds with a surgical instrument. We might charge a man who kills a pregnant woman with a double homicide, yet what if that woman was on her way to the abortion clinic to dispose of her baby anyway? Do we then charge him with a single homicide?

    Evil prevails when good men, in the name of freedom, do nothing. Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil. I Peter 2:16 I Peter 2:16 Very few of us would argue that crack cocaine, or rape should be legal simply because people are going to do it anyway, yet that is the argument that is applied to abortion. As a nation, our morals and ethics vacillate between honor and convenience, integrity and greed. We are slouching towards everything we have stood against and hated from the foundation of this country, yet we pave the way with our apathy. This double-mindedness has become a cancer eating away at the very heart of our nation.

    Sin always seems practical, necessary, or even "cute" in it's initial stages. It is only in hindsight that we can see just how atrocious those massive exterminations were and how they went against the very core of what the United States was supposed to be. Yet, we have no right to condemn previous generations for the same deeds we commit today. Then, as now, the masses simply went along with whatever was the popular opinion. In regard to slavery, it was even argued that the government didn't have a right to tell people whether they could own slaves or not... That it was a personal choice to be made and that freedom of choice is what our country is all about. Only in that case they forgot the rights of one whole people group. Sound familiar?

    Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" "I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?" The Lord said. "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground which opened it's mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand." Genesis 4:9-11

    As a nation, we must repent for the heartlessness we have displayed to the most helpless members of our culture. Though God is merciful, He is also just. He cannot ignore the cries of the blood that have soaked our ground and stained our hands. We are bringing ourselves under a curse, but do not have the eyes to see it. We only see the fruit of that curse and we wonder what went wrong. Like Cain, our ears have become deafened to the cries of those we have murdered.

    True Freedom

    There are too many of us who prefer to let the media do our thinking for us. Should we disagree, many of us are too intimidated to ever speak out with conviction. As we let time go by, our godly convictions begin to slip away and we become numb. Eventually, we may even support that which we had earlier condemned. This is called the "searing of a conscience." It happened in Hitler's Germany and it is happening today. How can we bring a dead conscience back to life? How can we know the difference between right and wrong? As was just established, we cannot merely "listen to our heart" and follow what seems best at the time. Some of the most horrifying deeds in history have been done by those who were following whatever moral code was most convenient at the time. Freedom is not doing whatever suits our fancy at the moment. That will only bring slavery and sorrow to our souls. True freedom is having the power to know what is right and to choose accordingly. But how can we choose, if we do not know? How can we obtain true freedom?

    You shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set you free. John 8:32

    We must cleanse our minds by the washing with the water through the WORD. (Ephesians 5:26) God's WORD is the Bible--ancient, yet ageless and seething with life. It will literally clean our thinking and bring life to our sin-deadened minds so we can see what He sees and feel what He feels. It will reveal our very thoughts to ourselves.

    For the WORD of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Hebrews 4:12

    Respect for God, His creation, and His Holy WORD, is the only way we will ever find true freedom. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. Proverbs 1:7 Wisdom and compassion cannot be found outside of God for He is wisdom and He is love. Long before heaven and earth were made, and long after they disappear, His WORD will still remain. On the Day of Judgement abortion and every other atrocity we have tried to justify will be shown for the evil it is. We must seek God now, while we have the time to do it! Today is the day of salvation.

    It is not too late to repent and turn our hearts back to the Lord. We can bring healing and life to this land that we love if we will humble ourselves before God's mighty right hand. If my people, who are called by my name, and humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land. II Chronicles 7:14

    God Loves You!

    If you are planning an abortion, please reconsider. Though your situation may seem hopeless, God will work something beautiful in your life if you trust and obey Him. Choosing to "remove" your problem will only create new ones. Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? Micah 6:7 You will have to bear the guilt of your abortion or else harden your heart to not feel guilty. God loves both you and your child very much, and if you feel incapable of raising him or her, there are thousands of couples who have waited years for the chance to adopt a baby. Though it may be difficult to give it away, you will have given it the greatest gift of all--life. As Mother Theresa put it so simply "love means to be willing to give until it hurts." Give your child to a family that will truly love it. You can make the dreams of a childless couple come true... and you can bless the heart of God.

    If you have already had an abortion, please do not feel that this was written only to bring you under guilt and condemnation. What is done is done and cannot be changed. God has your child in heaven with Him, and longs to forgive you if you ask Him to. Once God forgives a sin, He literally forgets it, and DOES NOT HOLD IT AGAINST YOU ANY LONGER! Please do not hold against yourself what God has forgotten. Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past. See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I, even I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. Isaiah 43:18, 25. Receive His love, for He loves you just as much as the child you lost. He already took your sin and bore it upon Himself so you would not have to bear the punishment, which would be eternal separation from Him. He knows the agony you've gone through better than any other, for He was there too, with you. Open your life to Him and let Him give you a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of the spirit of despair. He will make you into an oak of righteousness, a planting of the Lord for the display his splendor. Isaiah 61:3

    In conclusion, the words of God ring out as clearly now as they did over 3,000 years ago:

    This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Choose life so that you and your children may live, and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice and hold fast to him. Deuteronomy 30:19-20
     
  2. "Children are a heritage of the Lord,and the fruit of the womb is his reward" (Psalm 127:3)
     
  3. Excellent thread Chad!
     
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  4. #4 Nigh, Feb 21, 2006
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2006
    In response to secularists who hold that blood is needed for life. Abortion, as it is today, is still murder after just 18 days. Most women wouldn't even know they were with child at 18 days.

    Leviticus 17:11
    For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul

    If this is so, then just 18 days after conception the babies heart starts to beat, and I would assume it pushes blood thruogh out the baby. Therefore, at the very least you would have to say at 18 days, the baby has life.

    God bless us all,
    Nigh
     
  5. *gives high five*
     
  6. thank you Chad for this thread.Only weeks ago i learnt my son,s partner was aborting her child (my grandchild)I prayed God would intervene but she went a head and did this.But it gives me great comfort knowing this child is safely in the arms of our Lord.
     
  7. Amen! Abortion is murder any way you look at it.
     
  8. You know, I have very strong opinions on the Abortion issue! LIFE my friends is the issue. Have you heard of the LIFE movement where a group of people stand in front of the Supreme Court building? They interceed for the unborn babies who died due to this holocaust we call abortion. I got a chance to actually go and live in Washington D.C. and be a part of that movement. And you know, we can pray for the end to abortion and fast and interceed everyday, but there is nothing like standing in front of that building with LIFE tape over your mouth in silence. There are so many things you want to say once you have that tape on your mouth, and so many people who just walk bye and make fun. I had people challenge me and my God to this. I wanted so bad to stand up and say something back, but the silent seige of prayers are so much stronger.
    Isn''t it worth it? Isnt it worth getting harrassed by strangers if we get our point across. That red tape that says LIFE not only keeps our prayers silent (because we are not protesters), but it represents the silent cries or those (over 50 million) babies who were murdered. We are the voice for them because they were never given a chance to speak up.

    Doesn't this ache you? How does God's heart break for just one baby? Think of how it pains Him over just one! How He crys for just one, how much more does it hurt Him over 50 million?
    Who will stand up for these babies? Why will cry for them? It is us, the intercessors, who must stand up.

    Will you take this stand? Will you weep for the tearless? What's more important to you?
     
  9. I hope I can word this without starting a war. I personally would never want any pregnancy invloving my ***** to be aborted, I want to make that clear. But, in the end isnt it others peoples choice as to what they do? It is awful to even think about, but can Christians pick and chose battles? Is any one moral issue more important than another? What about people who do not believe in God at all? I dont see many Christians rallying in front of mosques in the Middle East.

    In the end isnt this a situation where you just sit and pray?
     
  10. #10 johnpaul, Oct 4, 2006
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2006
    The potential for new life begins at conception. A new Human being is begun the very moment the cells begin to divide and multiply. Jesus is the author and initiator of ALL life, how dare we take it away.
    In my youth, I thought that abortion should be exclusively up to the mother. But I now realise that all life belongs to Jesus, we have no right to take it away. A Human begins its existance the moment the moment the DNA becomes fixed by the penetration of the ***** zygote with the womans egg.
    If a child is unwanted, have it adopted. The only time I have difficulty is when a mothers life is in danger. I can't find an answer to this one, maybe someone can help me on this one. I suspect that even here all life must be protected to the utmost level.
    Remember, life is precious and we don't own it, we are simply its custodians.
     
  11. good post. Abortion is murder, pure and simple. Many eyes and spirits are clouded; they are deceived.
     
  12. The thing I don't understand is how abortion can be scientifically backed up. Our society has learned not to judge based on race, sex, and now age is an issue. A human baby is less valuable than a human fetus. Does a heartbeat make you human? Does a higher sense of awareness make you human? What makes us human, is our human DNA. Once something/someone has it's own individual genetic identity, it has become a human (or animal, or whatever it may be)... So I personally don't understand the logic behind it- especially when people say that a fetus is just like a part of the woman's body- since when does the spleen get big, fall out of the mom and turn into a baby? How about any other part of the body?.. That doesn't even make sense...

    Extremely lame I know, but what is the difference between quick reply and reply to thread..? I know I know! I am technologically impaired! lol
     
  13. #13 tinanne, Feb 12, 2007
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2007
    Psalms 139:16 Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, And in your book all its parts were down in writing, As regards the days when they were formed And there was not yet one among them.

    Exodus 21:22-23 And in case men should struggle with each other and they really hurt a pregnant woman and her children do come out but no fatal accident occurs,...But if a fatal accident occurs, then you must give soul for soul,..

    From the moment of conception a DNA book is written, and is alive, and progresses to create that person.

    Even though Exodus was in the Old Testament, I can see that our Creator gives equal bidding to the unborn, soul for soul.
     
  14. What if one of your friends or family members were raped? How can you justify that pregnancy? I am asking honestly these are not loaded questions on my end.
     
  15. It is a sad thing when this happens. It is still a baby that grows and if the person does not want to have reminders of what happened to them then they can have the baby adopted. There are so many people who want babies and cannot even carry one through pregnancy or even get pregnant.

    God bless :love: :rainbow: :rose:
     
  16. There are already thousands of babies and children in foster homes and group homes. The adoption process is long and tedious but there are already plenty of kids that need adopting.
     
  17. Well, I do not know what statistics your basing this off - but how about giving our problems to GOD who can fix anything and everything?

    Matthew 19:23
    [ With God All Things Are Possible ] Then Jesus said to His disciples, ÔÇťAssuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Basically, GOD can work around any circumstances and obstacles :)
     
  18. Legally there are also restrictions on adoption. For example, the usual white canadian (in my country, teehee) cannot adopt a baby born with native blood- for cultural and ethnic reasons (keeping their identity and stuff)... so althout it may seem there are tons of kids not adopted usually they are from different ethnicities, religions, races, cultures, and nationalities... and legally it wouldn't work out for the average person to adopt. There are actually long waiting lists of people who want to adopt.
     
  19. Response to abortion

    Jeremiah 1:5- Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you, I ordained you a prophet to the nations

    Psalm 139:13-16 For you formed my inward parts, You covered me in my mother's womb. I will Praise you for I am fearfully, and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, the days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.

    Its a sad thing when a woman is raped and if happened to one of my own family members or friends I would be there all I could for her, but if she should become pregnant I would let her know that the life inside of her was not responsible for what happened....I would let her know that I totally understand the point of looking at this baby would bring back the memory of the hurt she went through and that if she didnt want to keep the baby to give this baby a chance at life and put it up for adoption so he or she can lead the life God intended.

    Why should an innocent baby pay for a crime He or she didnt commit? God has plans for each and every life He creates and to take the very life from an innocent unborn baby takes away those plans and I just don't think man has any right to do that. God knows each and every child before they are formed in the womb, He knows what they will do and say, He knows what they will grow up to be and what plans He has for them...its not ok to take the right to live away from a baby who had and has no control of the circumstances of how they were concieved. Life according To God starts before we are even formed in the womb for He says " He knew us before we were formed and He fashioned our days even when they were none.

    The same is true of these babies....God knew them before they were formed, He knows them as they grow in the wombs of their mothers and He has fashinioned their days even though they are none. God is the author of life.....Only He should be able to say when a person comes home to Heaven not man and by murdering these babies man has choosen to play God and to me that is wrong.
     
  20. This is a subject that hits close to home.

    My older sister was born mentally retarded. She's always been very childlike and trusting. At best, her mental capacity is on par with a bright 8-year old.
    Well, in 1986 a friend of the family and next door neighbor (an elderly man) lured her into his home and raped her. My step-father caught him in the act after hearing my sister's voice in the man's house. When he knocked on the door and got no answer, he knocked the door off it's hinges and let himself in.
    And I am convinced that if not for my step-father being a pastor, our neighbor would have met the Lord in person that very day. Instead he was handed over to the police and spent the rest of his life in prison.

    Months later we learned that the rape had resulted in an unplanned pregnancy. Because of my sisters condition, it would be a dangerous situation. The hopital strongly advised my parents to abort the baby. They prayed about it and waited on the Lord. They wanted the child, my sister wanted the child. And in time, they felt the Lord wanted them to have the child, so they turned down the abortion.

    In early 1987 a healthy baby boy was delivered by cesarean section. My sister suffered no ill effects and came home with her son a few days after giving birth.

    That child was one of the best things that ever happened to our family. And none of us have ever regretted our parents decision to decline an abortion. My nephew is one of the sweetest natured people I've ever known. He loves the Lord, loves reading his Bible, and dotes on his mother.
    And while he, like his mom, is somewhat mentally challenged (to a far lesser degree), he is fully capable of caring for her and takes a great deal of pride in doing so. I can't imagine what life would be like today if he had been terminated in the womb.
     

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