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Since the Ascension, has their been any credible account of Jesus visiting any person on earth in the Bible? As far as I know, any encounter with God or Jesus was based on persons being called UP to Him. Am I correct in my understanding?
If this is so, how does Joseph Smith's account of his vision of God and Jesus visiting him in person harmonize with Matthew, Mark and Luke's account of Jesus' description of His future Second Coming? Wouldn't JS's claim undermine Jesus' promise of His return and confuse those who believe Jesus will return in the appointed time?
I ask because I am currently discussing this topic with a group of "LDS". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Be blessed!
I am not sure if this would apply or not to ...
after "the Ascension ... any credible account of Jesus visiting any person on earth in the Bible"
Acts 9:1-6 (DARBY version)
1 But Saul, still breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, came to the high priest 2 and asked of him letters to Damascus, to the synagogues, so that if he found any who were of the way, both men and women, he might bring [them] bound to Jerusalem. 3 But as he was journeying, it came to pass that he drew near to Damascus; and suddenly there shone round about him a light out of heaven, 4 and falling on the earth he heard a voice * saying to him, Saul, Saul, why dost thou persecute me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And he [said], I am Jesus, whom thou persecutest. 6 But rise up and enter into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
*It is the fact or physical hearing. The accusative is that the thing heard is before the mind.
I don't know anything about "Joseph Smith's account" nor what "LDS" stands for, thus this is all I could give at this point, but I hope it is helpful. :)
Be very carefull on anything pertaining to Josepth smith (false prophet) he claimed he saw an angel moroni not Jesus. When JESUS returns everyone will know it belive me.Just keep the oil in you"re lamps and follow his vioce sheep know their shepherd. amen
Mormons claim that we have moved from the dispensation of Grace into the dispensation of the fulness of times. They quote Ephesians 1:8-10.

8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;

9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Can someone please give me their insight into why this would or would not be so, please?

Thank you, cana. I am being very, very cautious here. I decided to add any input I can get here at TJ to my strict dependence on the Word and deep prayer and meditation. At this point, I do not believe the doctrine of Joseph Smith. I know that the Holy Spirit will lead me to the truth and through any deception, whichever is the case.

To anyone willing, I would appreciate your prayers on the matter. Thank you and God bless you!

Who is God? God the father was once a man, but became a God. He has a physical body, as does his wife(Heavenly Mother). No trinity. Father, son, and Holy Ghost are three seperate gods. Worthy men may one day become gods themselves.

This statement was taken from Christianity, cults & religions

They also believe that the Cross of Christ does not have redeeming power, just resurection power. Mormonism is a deceiption of Satan, be very careful.
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Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith :
Man, Yes; Myth, Maybe; Prophet, NEVER!

If the people will let us alone we will preach
the gospel in peace. But if they come on to molest
us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We
will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of
blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean.
I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose
motto in treating for peace was "the Alcoran [Koran]
or the Sword." So shall it eventually be with us --
"Joseph Smith or the Sword!"

Joseph Smith made this hollow threat on October 14th, 1838 in the town square at Far West, Missouri. Had Smith truly been the Prophet upon whom God laid the authority to oversee His people and usher in the last dispensation of time, then he should have been able to manage his affairs more effectively.

But whenever Joseph Smith tried to play hardball, the Gentile majority always threw it back at him, only harder. Consequently, Joseph's highlight reel would have included getting convicted of fraud, being driven out of three states, getting tarred by a mob, breaking out of jail while awaiting a death sentence, and his death in Carthage, Illinois.

Book of Deuteronomy:

De:13:1: If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

De:13:2: And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

De:13:3: Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

De:13:4: Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

De:13:5: And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

De:13:6: If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

De:13:7: Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

De:13:8: Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

De:13:9: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

De:13:10: And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

God Bless!

Your brother in Christ,