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10 Reasons NOT to vote for Obama

Discussion in 'News Stand' started by Chad, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. 10 Reasons NOT to vote for Obama

    [media][/media]1. He supports infanticide, literally!

    2. His spiritual mentor for 20 years has been Jeremiah Wright whom Obama personally chose out of many Chicago pastors. It strains credibility that he didn’t know about Wright’s views. He listened to tapes of Rev. Wright when he was at Harvard Law! So why did he choose him and stick with him for so long? The only possible explanation is that he approved of Wright’s tirades.

    3. He is a close friend of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists.

    4. He is a target for assassination, not because he is black but because he is a Muslim apostate, according to devout Muslims around the world. Therefore, he cannot be a good Chief Diplomat to the Middle East.

    5. He was mentored by a communist.

    6. His economic plan will harm the US economy and create more fiscal irresponsibility with the Congressional Budget. Why do we want to return to the days of Jimmy Carter?

    7. He is in favor of unilateral disarmament, leaving America defenseless against its enemies.

    8. He is unaccomplished. He hasn’t really done anything of worth relative to the office of the US presidency. He’s only been in the Senate for about two years (assumed in office Jan of 2005 and announced his candidacy for the presidency in Feb 2007). One can’t be simultaneously a full-time senator and a full-time presidential candidate. Soon he will have campaigned for almost as long as he has been in the Senate.

    9. He is willing to personally meet with hostile dictators like Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad with no preconditions. They don’t deserve such a privilege of meeting the President of the USA. Reagan negotiated from a position of strength, when he thought he could gain something. What does Obama hope to gain?

    10. Three other people: Tony Rezko, Eric Holder, Jim Johnson. Why does Obama associate with such shady characters?

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  2. Chad, all I can say to you is...Amen x10 to the second power! (!0 for me and 10 for my husband!)
  3. #3 natty threads, Nov 2, 2008
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    What about the ex-PLO guy he hangs out with?
    If I could get past the infanticide his associations might bother me more.
    Oh, no they wouldn't, because then I'd be stuck on the socialism.

    The really appalling thing is that many of his terrorist associates are PROFESSORS.

    If he wins, we must all pray for him.

    Because he has the support of so many muslims and even of radical Isamic groups, I would speculate that perhaps he is not a apostate but rather is still a practicing muslim.

    Chad, have you heard that he's been threatened?

    My church is having a prayer vigil tomorrow night.

    Bless up.
  4. Natty, yes I'm sure he's being threatened.

    The truth is, I strongly believe the possibility of the final anti-christ working through Obama. There are so many indications of why I believe this. I could be easily wrong, but this is how I feel. I think some radicals will try to assassinate him. If he doesn't win, there might be chaos either way. The islamic radicals are out there, and they have no sense of the love of Jesus Christ.

    We can only pray and hope for a change of heart in this people. Sometimes it feels hopeless, but with GOD all things are possible.

    Mark 10:26-28

    26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
    27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
    28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
  5. I do too.

    I don't like to listen to him talk too much because I start to get lulled.

    But he does have the support of I think Hamas.


    Pray for the president either way, regardless of who wins.

    And if he is an instrument of the anti-christ then we're just that much closer.

    I saw something today in a Torah study I was reading.

    "Be nice to everyone because you don't know who might be your jailer in the tribulation."


    Bless up!
  6. Hello Y'all

    I totally agree with Chad that Obama will be a gullible instrument for the Anti-Christ.

    One reason why George W.Bush was such a thorn in the side of european liberals was that he showed europe that the U.S. was willing to act unilaterally in its foreign policies in order to protect its existence.No soft power there !

    But Obama is such a darling of the E.U. that i am certain he will be willing to do everything in his term as president not to antagonise the E.U. on most major issues, from Iran to Israel.

    He will either act knowingly or unknowingly to co-operate with the Anti-christ.

    One of Satan's goals has always been a weak U.S. versus a strong E.U. The godlessness of Europe has always been very appealing to the Evil one.,which enables the E.U. to fit like a glove on Satan's hand.

    So ,as a Kenyan,from Obama's home country, i am deeply distressed by an Obama Presidency.
  7. Hi...I do agree with this thread about obama. He scares me.I believe we are closer to Jesus 2nd coming than i thought.
  8. Not that it is of my business, cause I'm not American, but all I know that he'll be forcing very high taxations to achieve *Social welfare*, I know that would be a good reason why he shouldn't be elected.
  9. I am very distressed with the election outcome. I was talking with my mum earlier today, as we watched the election coverage live, and she was happy to see Obama doing very well in the election. My mum is a Christian, but has a limited understanding of the Spirit and of the warfare and demonic things happening in this world. As we talked, mum said that the main reason why she supported him was because "he's a christian." She also said "I havent heard from anywhere that John McCain is a Christian at all." She based her belief of his Christianity on a speech he had made where he spoke the name of Jesus Christ as if he were a true believer.
    I told her that i remained undecided, that i did not choose to take a side. But i have, for a long time, felt very uncomfortable with Barack Obama, and now I am definitely in opposition to him. I can see him being used as a tool for the desires of the Anti-Christ.

    I was reminded of the Left Behind series (a book series based on end times prophecy). I have not read the books, but i have seen the first 3 movies recently, and one line particularly stood out to me, where a character in the story said "In fact, I think he's a Christian!" (referring to Nicholai, a world leader who was the Anti-Christ.)

    Jesus Himself said that many people will be led astray, many will be deceived. The devil dresses himself as an angel of light in order to decieve us.

    I tried to encourage my mum to have some discernment and not believe all that she heard. I told her I was unconvinced that Obama was a Christian, and she attacked me by saying something like "That's a crazy as you saying that I don't know whether YOU are a Christian or not!", but i calmly responded saying that she KNOWS me, she lives with me, and she KNOWS that I am a Christian.

    It is only by KNOWING someone, knowing their CHARACTER that we can truly determine if they are trustworthy, if their word is trustworthy, and if they are indeed who they claim to be.

    That's a great thing about Jesus! He revealed His character to us, that we may be like Him.

    I know many people who claim to be Christians but have no discernment, and will easily be led astray. We need to help them now, so they can stand firm too.

    This is happening NOW! It was mentioned today in the exit polls as the election progressed, that more than 90% of the African-American voters had voted FOR Obama. And my mum mentioned that a large majority of the African-American population are Christians!!

    Do NOT be deceived my friends, my brothers and sisters in Christ! Do NOT make the mistake of thinking that the things that have been prophesied about (both in scripture and by the Spirit) will not come to pass, or won't happen until after it affects you. This world is changing INCREDIBLY QUICKLY!

    A time of great darkness is at hand, and will come VERY soon. We are in the end times NOW.

    Let us all learn to discern before placing trust in anyone or anything, and above all, let us draw nearer to the Lord, and break down the barriers that hold us back, the addictions, bad habits and all things that exalt themselves against the knowledge of God.

    2 Corinthians 10:4-5 KJV
    For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.



    Let us not become afraid, let us not fear. Let us not see only the darkness and despair, but rather keep our eyes on Christ and His second coming, for He WILL set us free from all the evil of this world. OH what a GLORIOUS day that will be, like no other, when He returns to take us home!

    Joshua 1:9
    "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go."

    Let us pray daily for the nations, for our leaders, for our friends and family, our brothers and sisters in Christ. Let us walk every day with the Father NOW, so that when the tough times come, we will be firmly founded on the Rock - Jesus Christ.

    I am reminded of a story that i heard a while back, somewhat of a parable, about a mother and son on a train. It was the middle of the day, the sun was high in the sky, and the conductor was moving through the train lighting the lanterns. The boy asked his mother why he was doing this, as it was not dark at all. She told him to wait and see what would happen. Before long, they passed through a long, dark tunnel. If not for the lanterns, there would be no light on the train.

    We are heading for a long, dark tunnel. We must prepare ourselves NOW, before we reach the tunnel.

    My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, let us unite together and be a blessing to all those around us. Let us strive, each and every day, to walk as closely with the Lord as Jesus did (and indeed does).

    God bless you all abundantly in Christ Jesus our KING! :D

  10. Well, we have a new president for USA. Someone, we Christians didn't want. It sure makes me sad, but we can't do anything about it.
  11. The people have spoken, reminds me of a story in the old testament. Israel no longer wanted Yahveh as their King and they rejected Samuel's sons as judges so they cried "give us a king like all the other nations".

    Can we really call this country a Christian nation, Obama is not President- elect by force but by vote. He is, by majority, the people's choice.

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2Chronicles 7:14
  12. Hi all, we need not as Christians be distressed that Obama has won the Presidency. There is nothing that can stop the move of God. The apostles tried to defend Jesus, but remember his answer..He can call legions of angels to help him. So..more than ever is to pray not only for ourselves, repent and strive for Holiness, without which no man shall see God. Pray for our loved ones to come to the knowledge of Christ...

    We cannot step the end from drawing near and all the prophesis, every word of God must be fulfilled before the end comes.

    Stay focused and know that HE IS COMING BACK SOON.
  13. your post is very true. . .I sadly see it the same way . . people have spoken . . .people want something that fits them . . .Now we will see how it will turn out. .

    Here in Germany Obama is very gladly seen to be president. . .people see him more comfortable, nice and polite, young enough to reach goals he sets and and and . . .He is no thread to anyone seems like. . .actually I didnt see that either till I read more infos about him and what information has been collected already .. .

    I guess we are very much asleep over here still or already . . .we will see. .. thank you for the wake up call and the collection of information everyone . . .
  14. #14 Truedawn, Nov 5, 2008
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    I am sad today and even worried (although I know that God is incharge, not dissing the Lord just sharing my heart). Thank you Chad for starting this post. I worked at the polls in my town yesterday from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m. In our town McCain won by a landslide. I need to pray. My heart is so heavy.

    This morning my husband woke me up and in our morning prayers I heard that Obama is Pres. - elect. Oh how I cried. I know that our Lord is still on the throne & McCain would be imperfect as well. Yet, my spirit is really troubled by Obama. I found reading this whole thread helpful in thinking through this day. And I agree with what was written. I do see that we are closer than ever before to the end (I'm not a usual negative thinker by any means, but really feel strongly about it). I had just finished reading the book of Rev. last week, and see some stuff that seems too much like where we are headed as a world. I do wonder if this is the beginning for real... And a wild thought but maybe not so wild is that this religious freedom we have in the U.S. may be on borrowed time. O Lord Jesus have mercy. Please help us, your people live for your glory and Truth to the end of our days. Please hold us close to you Lord and please help us (Christians) to keep on sharing you with the World. For You desire for none to perish. And Lord you Have won the final victory. Thank you. We worship you King Jesus. Thank you for hearing our hearts cry. Amen.
  15. #15 Richie, Nov 5, 2008
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    Yes Brother,

    I agree with your post 100%. Many people here in India are happy because Obama won, but the Christians are not.

    Let's pray for America. Let God's will be done.
  16. #16 rizen1, Nov 5, 2008
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2008

    I was bombarded with that same logic in my email this morning from some Christian websites about king saul. I wasn’t sure how the church was going to flip the results with the bible. I knew if Mc cain won, the message would be God didn’t want Obama in power because he wasn’t Christian. If Obama won the church would say he’s the anti -christ. I never thought about saul, which I must say is a good angle.

    To say this country is not really Christian when President Obama wins is weird. The reason to elect McCain and palin was to protect Christian values., protect this Christian nation from a supposed muslim. The banner raised repeatedly against President Obama was this is a Christian nation and we the christian people will not allow him to be president. So I’m a bit confused now to hear anyone say this was never really a christian nation when everyone voted based on this country being a Christian nation.

    Some reasons people are upset about the results.
    I know many people who claim to be Christians but have no discernment

    They thought the elections was about their feelings and emotions.
    They never once thought..'' maybe its not my will but God's will be done ''.
    Fear lead many to vote.

    Don't let fear keep you from praising God even if you don't understand, or can't discern what HE (God ) is doing.

    Trust God not man...not one of those political leaders quoted.
    2Chronicles 7:14 ( I've stated in previous threads ) So if President Obama looks hopeless to many what hope was going to come from Cainy if 2Chronicles 7:14 was not his resolution for the country. We would like to think we know better but we really don't....It's always God's will.

    I'm not angry or sad because I never looked at any one of them to be my messiah. My hope and trust was in the Lord, so I'm able to say '' Father I praise you for my life is in your hands.
    If you are sad or upset, you need to ask who did you put your trust in man or God? If it was man, its understandable that you would be dissapointed now.

    I trusted God, so I still have my joy.
    I was obedient when he told me to pray and only pray, I didn’t part take in placing fear on people. My message through out this election was trust God. You didn‘t get what you wanted, so what.

    Rest assured God knows what he‘s doing, he doesn‘t need our approval. Just trust him.

    Thats God's business...
  17. I'm very sad about that, my heart is with all the Americans and the rest of the whole world who will be effected by this,

    I kept hoping he would lose, but in my heart I knew he would win, so prophecies would be reality, this only means that the end is near, that's okay, that's a good thing in fact.

    The world is about to suffer I believe, especially Christians, but that's okay too, maybe we aren't supposed to be happy on earth,

    Almost every muslim Egyptian here were crossing their fingers that he'd win, I hated that.

    I pray God will watch over you,
    God Bless.
  18. This also has made me sad, all I can do is pray for him and everyone else God hears always the prayers of his beloved childen.
  19. Rom 8:31 If God is for us, who can ever be against us?

    I kept hoping he would lose, but in my heart I knew he would win, so prophecies would be reality, this only means that the end is near, that's okay, that's a good thing in fact.

    If he didn't win would we say Mc cain was prophecy being fullfilled?
    If Obama winning meant the return of Jesus, the end is near..why was so many Christians against it ?
    Is it now acceptable as prophecy because we can't do anything to change the results?
    If it was looked at as prophecy from the beginner would the church fight against him as they did ?
    If this was prophecy why did we try to change it ?
    If this was looked at as prophecy from day one, why wasn't the church rejoicing instead of living in fear ?
    Is it fair to say if this is prophecy being fullfilled, some churches voted for Mc Cain because they were not ready for his second coming ?

    The world is about to suffer I believe, especially Christians, but that's okay too, ,
    Christians around the world are being killed for converting. So if we begin to suffer, its nothing new.

    maybe we aren't supposed to be happy on earth
    Christians run from trouble, we live in fear forgetting what the bible said about trails.

    3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.Romans 5:3-5

    Almost every muslim Egyptian here were crossing their fingers that he'd win, I hated that.
    They probably think him being President will cause the world to be more accepting to muslims.

    I pray God will watch over you,
    God Bless

    I pray God watches over you also.

    I'm very confused that Christians are sad, people don't you know who our God is. The God we serve.

    Romans 8:38-39
    38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Our concern should be heaven.

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;1 Timothy 4:1

    Matthew 7:13-1413 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
  20. I'm not sad...maybe a bit disappointed, BUT I know that God is still on the throne! Nothing will dethrone him.

    I know also that no matter who would have won...we are still in the end times.

    Jesus is coming soon...are you ready?

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