May the Lord Jesus bless us with his wisdom and love

Making a statement in a general sense, like "many of the churches", causes a problem in itself. Like what are the churches failing to do? If they're failing to do what "YOU" expected them, then maybe it is us who are failing the churches.

The same thing about taking a stick out of the other person's eye and the log out of your own eye, is also true about churches in general. It isn't the churches that are failing it is we and our understanding that fail. It isn't the stick in the eye of the churches the log in our own eye.

Churches are not in themselves a breathing entity. We the people are the church.

If we disagree with those who were before us, then maybe we are following the wrong path ourselves. Because the church has stood, and this is all the Christians have stood for many many years hundreds of years before major splits came along. And instead of trying to fix the problem they just split.

We continue to see the same problem, every time there's a difference of opinion in virtually every church. They don't try to fix the problem instead they run away and make another church, and then say that the previous church was wrong

Bill said:

May the Lord Jesus bless us with his wisdom and love

Making a statement in a general sense, like "many of the churches", causes a problem in itself. Like what are the churches failing to do? If they're failing to do what "YOU" expected them, then maybe it is us who are failing the churches.

The same thing about taking a stick out of the other person's eye and the log out of your own eye, is also true about churches in general. It isn't the churches that are failing it is we and our understanding that fail. It isn't the stick in the eye of the churches the log in our own eye.

Churches are not in themselves a breathing entity. We the people are the church.

If we disagree with those who were before us, then maybe we are following the wrong path ourselves. Because the church has stood, and this is all the Christians have stood for many many years hundreds of years before major splits came along. And instead of trying to fix the problem they just split.

We continue to see the same problem, every time there's a difference of opinion in virtually every church. They don't try to fix the problem instead they run away and make another church, and then say that the previous church was wrong

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This why no building was supposed to be built to he called a church it's all written but too many wanna do the ways of man n their traditions why so many have gone astray..

Until one humbles themselves enough to go to the Lord Like a child like they know absolutely nothing n allow Him to teach them n guide them it's useless for man to speak about it all's the temple dwellers do is call names n play the building that they claim to be a church a victim.. even if they themselves see what they r doing wrong they ignore it slap a reason on it n allow it to continue..

A lot of them preachers got a spell on their followers that's so strong them followers will be faithful unto that preacher until their dying breath

The Creators children don't try n buy His word we do not sell His word like ya see many that do wether it's in a building with a preacher wanting money or a singer singing His words making worldly profit..

Me myself I don't debate what the Lord says I hear Him fine
I don't sell His Words n neither do I buy them welp except the old bibles I may come across to he honest..

It would be nice to find some true daily fellowship but it's hasn't been in the cards for me these past yrs.but now the Lord does send us people to talk to and speak His Word to..

Ya know I called this one number up here in Oklahoma to ask for prayers n a pastor called me back I told him my husband was gravely ill had so many tubes in him this was around easter n ya wanna know what he said?.
He said we will pray for ya n why don't ya come to n worship with us. I even repeated again how sick my husband was at the time n I have no transportation anyways n he still try to insist on me going to him to worship with his people

Only concern he had was getting a couple more blind followers in his pocket

Truthfully these buildings are nothing more then a income for the one running it these days they get cash back from the govt with what little help they wanna give..

Nothing about them is of the Creator these days..

Maybe 3 percent is of the Lord here in the USA n I'm being generous with that after all I have seen

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Bill said:

May the Lord Jesus bless us with his wisdom and love

Making a statement in a general sense, like "many of the churches", causes a problem in itself. Like what are the churches failing to do? If they're failing to do what "YOU" expected them, then maybe it is us who are failing the churches.

The same thing about taking a stick out of the other person's eye and the log out of your own eye, is also true about churches in general. It isn't the churches that are failing it is we and our understanding that fail. It isn't the stick in the eye of the churches the log in our own eye.

Churches are not in themselves a breathing entity. We the people are the church.

If we disagree with those who were before us, then maybe we are following the wrong path ourselves. Because the church has stood, and this is all the Christians have stood for many many years hundreds of years before major splits came along. And instead of trying to fix the problem they just split.

We continue to see the same problem, every time there's a difference of opinion in virtually every church. They don't try to fix the problem instead they run away and make another church, and then say that the previous church was wrong

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Bill I am fully aware that We In Christ are His Church ... I was referring to the brick and mortar type?

Jesua888 said:

Bill I am fully aware that We In Christ are His Church ... I was referring to the brick and mortar type?

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Who are the brick and mortar type? Even if the building falls you still have Christianity.

A church building is just a place of gathering and a place of worship but it is self is not something that anyone worships

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They start by ignoring who he said was God!
John 17:3- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

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A church that intentionally bypasses the teaching of Jesus in John 17:3 is bypassing Christ. Jesus said, “this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Eternal life, then, is not found in a religion of men, their traditions, or a church system. Eternal life is found in knowing the Father, the only true God, and in knowing Jesus Christ, the One He sent.

The bypassing of Christ is nothing new. Jesus said, “Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46). Many churches today claim His name, but substitute their own traditions for His Word. They elevate their systems, councils, or leaders, and bypass the plain words of Scripture. “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

A church that bypasses Christ’s teaching is showing they do not belong to Him. Jesus said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (John 12:48). There is no eternal life apart from knowing the Father and the Son. To bypass Christ is to lose eternal life.

He lets his minions do most of the worldly sins.
He is hardest at work in the Christian churches.
He started it and never stopped.

bdavidc said:

A church that intentionally bypasses the teaching of Jesus in John 17:3 is bypassing Christ. Jesus said, “this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Eternal life, then, is not found in a religion of men, their traditions, or a church system. Eternal life is found in knowing the Father, the only true God, and in knowing Jesus Christ, the One He sent.

The bypassing of Christ is nothing new. Jesus said, “Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46). Many churches today claim His name, but substitute their own traditions for His Word. They elevate their systems, councils, or leaders, and bypass the plain words of Scripture. “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

A church that bypasses Christ’s teaching is showing they do not belong to Him. Jesus said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (John 12:48). There is no eternal life apart from knowing the Father and the Son. To bypass Christ is to lose eternal life.

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"A church that intentionally bypasses the teaching of Jesus in John 17:3 "

What will you say when you hear many people and churches claim , it is ok for us to recieve the Mark of the Beast, because we are the Children of God, and our names are written in heaven"???