Is TalkJesus Nineveh?

B-A-C · Jul 7, 2025

There once was a prophet, he was sent to Nineveh to tell them they needed to repent. He didn't want to go of course.
He was swallowed by a big fish and ended up in Nineveh anyway. We all know the story. The funny thing is... despite all of this
the people of Nineveh repented and they were spared the wrath of God... all because Jonah went.

Now of course, not every place needs to be changed. Not every belief needs to be changed. But some people seem to be hung up
on "fixing" other people. Or at least fixing their beliefs. You don't believe like I believe, so obviously.. YOU.. are wrong and I am right.
It's strange how we can sometimes get so hung up on how right we are, and how wrong everybody else is.

I have often wondered why do some people come to talkJesus? Not the mainstream Christians, of course we have our own disagreements.
OSAS, soul sleep, amillennism, pre-trib raptures, cessation and the gifts of the Spirit... I'm not really talking about these things.. these debates
have been going on for hundreds of years.

I'm talking about the out-lyers. The non-mainstreamers. Those people who usually don't belong to any denomination but their own.
I personally don't go where AI know I'm not wanted. Now I supposed if I knew for sure God told me to go... I would. But so far, I don't feel
like he has told me to visit any Mormon sites, or jehovah's witneeses sites, or even Roman Catholic sites. I know that if I was to frequent
those places... it would mostly just be arguing.. unless of course God gave me the words to say.

We have a number of these people here on TalkJesus... I often wonder why? They aren't really mainstream protestants. They aren't really pentecostals. They aren't even baptists. But here they are.
We have a few universalists, a few aniihilationists, a few non-trinitarians, one or two that disagree with the common Protestant Canon of the Bible.
.. and I wonder... why are they here? I suppose they believe in their minds, they are here to "fix" us. To convert us over to their way of thinking.

Maybe they are just trolls, looking for a fight, looking for something to argue about. It's obvious we have a few of those also.
I often wonder if these people are just so lonely... they just want someone to talk to... every if it's just to fight for a while.
But I suspect a few of them genuinely believe what they are saying.

TalkJesus used to have a "What we believe" section, biut if they still have it, it's almost impossible to find. So then... what do we believe?
What don't we believe? Often it seems like anything goes here. Any belief is valid here, whether it's obviously non-biblical or not.
Maybe the moderator believe in Ecumenism? Maybe they believe in peace at any cost (even heresy and blasphemy). I'm not saying
we all have to agree of everything, but there should be some standards.. some beliefs.

Which leads me back to the original question... if you don't believe in these things... why are you here?
The first thought for many of us is... Satan sent you to cause disputes and arguments.

My advice... when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Don't stir up trouble, don't try to change us.
The people of Nineveh knew what Jonah said was true. They knew it was from God. Many of the things I hear these days...
even here on TalkJesus... definitely aren't from God.

joestue · Jul 7, 2025

I was only sent here to rescue a specific person out of a certain deception. Over time i think that he realized it was a deception, and left the forum

Leumas · Jul 7, 2025

B-A-C said:
There once was a prophet, he was sent to Nineveh to tell them they needed to repent. He didn't want to go of course.
He was swallowed by a big fish and ended up in Nineveh anyway. We all know the story. The funny thing is... despite all of this
the people of Nineveh repented and they were spared the wrath of God... all because Jonah went.

Now of course, not every place needs to be changed. Not every belief needs to be changed. But some people seem to be hung up
on "fixing" other people. Or at least fixing their beliefs. You don't believe like I believe, so obviously.. YOU.. are wrong and I am right.
It's strange how we can sometimes get so hung up on how right we are, and how wrong everybody else is.

I have often wondered why do some people come to talkJesus? Not the mainstream Christians, of course we have our own disagreements.
OSAS, soul sleep, amillennism, pre-trib raptures, cessation and the gifts of the Spirit... I'm not really talking about these things.. these debates
have been going on for hundreds of years.

I'm talking about the out-lyers. The non-mainstreamers. Those people who usually don't belong to any denomination but their own.
I personally don't go where AI know I'm not wanted. Now I supposed if I knew for sure God told me to go... I would. But so far, I don't feel
like he has told me to visit any Mormon sites, or jehovah's witneeses sites, or even Roman Catholic sites. I know that if I was to frequent
those places... it would mostly just be arguing.. unless of course God gave me the words to say.

We have a number of these people here on TalkJesus... I often wonder why? They aren't really mainstream protestants. They aren't really pentecostals. They aren't even baptists. But here they are.
We have a few universalists, a few aniihilationists, a few non-trinitarians, one or two that disagree with the common Protestant Canon of the Bible.
.. and I wonder... why are they here? I suppose they believe in their minds, they are here to "fix" us. To convert us over to their way of thinking.

Maybe they are just trolls, looking for a fight, looking for something to argue about. It's obvious we have a few of those also.
I often wonder if these people are just so lonely... they just want someone to talk to... every if it's just to fight for a while.
But I suspect a few of them genuinely believe what they are saying.

TalkJesus used to have a "What we believe" section, biut if they still have it, it's almost impossible to find. So then... what do we believe?
What don't we believe? Often it seems like anything goes here. Any belief is valid here, whether it's obviously non-biblical or not.
Maybe the moderator believe in Ecumenism? Maybe they believe in peace at any cost (even heresy and blasphemy). I'm not saying
we all have to agree of everything, but there should be some standards.. some beliefs.

Which leads me back to the original question... if you don't believe in these things... why are you here?
The first thought for many of us is... Satan sent you to cause disputes and arguments.

My advice... when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Don't stir up trouble, don't try to change us.
The people of Nineveh knew what Jonah said was true. They knew it was from God. Many of the things I hear these days...
even here on TalkJesus... definitely aren't from God.

I come here
Because
The Holy Ghost
Gives me blessings
From here
From you all.
And those who just
Read the threads.

If it were not for that
I certainly would not
spend my time
Conversing
With any of you.

thelightbearsservant · Jul 7, 2025

All have gone the way of Jonah and have to be stubbornly lead back to where God wants them.

Christ4Ever · Jul 7, 2025

Dear Brother, @B-A-C
I've never thought of the why, just kept on plugging along until I'm drawn by the Holy Spirit to be elsewhere, or I am called to go Home.
Nineveh? I don't know, but what I do know and what I used to call it at one time, but no longer, which was an Oasis in a dark internet. A place where believers in Jesus Christ could come to rest a bit from the trials and taskings they were on about in their own lives. To stay, rest, breaking bread, and then move on, after being fortified with the love and fellowship found here from brethren. Which has been the case for many brothers & sisters in Christ. As well as for seekers, who knew not what they were after.

Now? I see it as a place of misfits, that don't belong to any general/particular belief outside of Jesus Christ or having been chased away from other more structured sites. One might call some Christians, Catholics, non-denomination, and the list goes on, as you've noticed brother. All falling across a wide spectrum of belief. Still for most I do believe it is Jesus.

I'm still here as are you, I guess for the searchers, the ones whose faith is a seedling that has just broken through the dirt, reaching for the light that beckons them to seek Him ever more, but not really understanding why. Oh, I guess you can include that I am here also to guide those who have been so abused elsewhere, and rejected, that they might get to know a touch of tenderness in God's love which has been foreign to them. Which at times makes me excuse their abruptness, rudeness, and even at times cruelness which they exhibit like an abandoned pup left too long alone with their own thoughts towards others and have never learned how to socialize with brethren in peace & love.

It makes for some guilt in me, because this many times goes at the cost to those whose tender souls I see as the ones who are the who's who of the beatitudes. Suffering at the hands of self-righteous ones that battle demons real or imagined. Not what I wanted or ever saw that this would happen here on Talk Jesus these 17 or so years ago, but happen it has.

So, struggle along I do, in what I gave my word that I would do, when I first became Moderator. Overwhelmed at times for wanting to read every thread and post. That I find it hard at times after logging in, to move my pointer to see what has newly been posted and shared. Even for a retired military man, it is hard at times, to go towards what one knows is a battle, and one that there is no winner in, just to see who are left and to bandage up the wounded.

So, you ask, what do we believe? In Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior, the second person of the Trinity. In the Canon of the 66 Books of the Bible as the Word of God, that we might...do so much more than we are with them. Even while Talk Jesus, no longer acknowledges the canon of 66 books, but does the Trinity in its statement of faith, I am still guided by it, and believe in that SOF, Terms & Rules to do what I can. Prayerfully, and guided by the Holy Spirit.

Thanks, brother, for starting the thread, and allowing me to put to page words that have lain upon my heart for a while now. Know you are loved dear brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

Sue J Love · Jul 7, 2025

Why am I here? I was on another Christian site (can't recall the name of it) and someone on there encouraged several of us to come to this site, I think it was for the encouragement of someone on this site, so some of us did that. That was March 2015. I was on here for awhile, but then I began to believe that I did not fit here, and so I left, but I never withdrew my membership here. Then, maybe a year ago, can't recall when, the Lord gave me a dream in which he was calling me to come back here, and so I came back. For the past 20 years he has been having me share my times that I have with him each day in his word on various sites on the internet, so I have been faithful to that call. And the Scriptures teach that we, as the body of Christ, are to encourage and to exhort one another daily so that we are not led astray by people in their cunning and craftiness and deceitful scheming to follow after a false gospel or to be led back in sin. We each are to use the spiritual gifts we have been given by the Lord to help one another to grow to maturity in Christ and to live holy lives pleasing to the Lord. And that is why I am here. And I, in turn, am encouraged by some people on here who are walking with the Lord and who sharing, some of them out of love, I believe, what the Lord has taught them for the encouragement and spiritual growth of the body of Christ. And that is my purpose for being here, as well, but also because God led me here. Sue

Curtis · Jul 7, 2025

If everyone were walking on the same spiritual level of maturity in Christ, then there would be no differences of opinion.
Unfortunately, learning something new many times requires unlearning certain things we thought were true but were not.
Very few want to unlearn to learn something new because that takes a lot of work to reassemble your belief system.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Joh 8:28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things.
Joh 8:29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him."

Can a person teach what he has not first been taught?

Sue J Love · Jul 7, 2025

Christ4Ever said:
Dear Brother, @B-A-C
I've never thought of the why, just kept on plugging along until I'm drawn by the Holy Spirit to be elsewhere, or I am called to go Home.
Nineveh? I don't know, but what I do know and what I used to call it at one time, but no longer, which was an Oasis in a dark internet. A place where believers in Jesus Christ could come to rest a bit from the trials and taskings they were on about in their own lives. To stay, rest, breaking bread, and then move on, after being fortified with the love and fellowship found here from brethren. Which has been the case for many brothers & sisters in Christ. As well as for seekers, who knew not what they were after.

Now? I see it as a place of misfits, that don't belong to any general/particular belief outside of Jesus Christ or having been chased away from other more structured sites. One might call some Christians, Catholics, non-denomination, and the list goes on, as you've noticed brother. All falling across a wide spectrum of belief. Still for most I do believe it is Jesus.

I'm still here as are you, I guess for the searchers, the ones whose faith is a seedling that has just broken through the dirt, reaching for the light that beckons them to seek Him ever more, but not really understanding why. Oh, I guess you can include that I am here also to guide those who have been so abused elsewhere, and rejected, that they might get to know a touch of tenderness in God's love which has been foreign to them. Which at times makes me excuse their abruptness, rudeness, and even at times cruelness which they exhibit like an abandoned pup left too long alone with their own thoughts towards others and have never learned how to socialize with brethren in peace & love.

It makes for some guilt in me, because this many times goes at the cost to those whose tender souls I see as the ones who are the who's who of the beatitudes. Suffering at the hands of self-righteous ones that battle demons real or imagined. Not what I wanted or ever saw that this would happen here on Talk Jesus these 17 or so years ago, but happen it has.

So, struggle along I do, in what I gave my word that I would do, when I first became Moderator. Overwhelmed at times for wanting to read every thread and post. That I find it hard at times after logging in, to move my pointer to see what has newly been posted and shared. Even for a retired military man, it is hard at times, to go towards what one knows is a battle, and one that there is no winner in, just to see who are left and to bandage up the wounded.

So, you ask, what do we believe? In Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior, the second person of the Trinity. In the Canon of the 66 Books of the Bible as the Word of God, that we might...do so much more than we are with them. Even while Talk Jesus, no longer acknowledges the canon of 66 books, but does the Trinity in its statement of faith, I am still guided by it, and believe in that SOF, Terms & Rules to do what I can. Prayerfully, and guided by the Holy Spirit.

Thanks, brother, for starting the thread, and allowing me to put to page words that have lain upon my heart for a while now. Know you are loved dear brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

You are an encouragement to me. Thank you for your kindness. Sue

Sue J Love · Jul 7, 2025

Curtis said:
If everyone were walking on the same spiritual level of maturity in Christ, then there would be no differences of opinion.
Unfortunately, learning something new many times requires unlearning certain things we thought were true but were not.
Very few want to unlearn to learn something new because that takes a lot of work to reassemble your belief system.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Joh 8:28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things.
Joh 8:29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him."

Can a person teach what he has not first been taught?

I am 75 years old. I was brought up in the gatherings of the church from birth in a very fundamental evangelic group of believers in Jesus Christ. I was taught obedience and holy living and the forsaking of my sins from early on, and I trusted in Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior at age 7. At age 16 I started teaching the Bible, first to children, then to youth, and then for many years to women in small group Bible studies. But then 21 years ago the Lord called me to this ministry of writing down what he is teaching me from his word each day and posting these writings on the internet on various sites. And so I obeyed him. But one of the first things he did was to help me to unlearn so many things that I had wrong. For now I was reading the Bible from start to finish, and then repeating that, and I was seeing the Scriptures in their context. For I had been taught some things out of context. But when you read them in context, repeatedly, the truth really begins to jump out at you and you can no longer believe the lies which you had believed. So I had to unlearn a lot and relearn a lot. And I needed that realignment in preparation for this ministry. Sue

Gothedral · Jul 8, 2025

B-A-C said:
... I have often wondered why do some people come to talkJesus? ...

To talk about Jesus Christ.

Find your favorite chapter and verse of The Word where we are all commanded to care for each other, which includes the "fixing" everyone needs a lifetime of hahaha. I say this as someone who has not been allowed to hug Almighty God in Heaven again yet. Keep sharing your testimony... here, and in your neighborhood, and on your travels too. I welcome everyone's perspective and insight and testimony of Christ our Lord. It can only strengthen faith.

Whether it's TalkJesusDotCom or any online media, or your own silent prayer, every bit of Love shared is a good thing. Be at peace, @BAC. ️

Oh, and I also like the hashtag #RememberNineveh

Brad Huber · Jul 8, 2025

When the word of God goes forth, it never comes back void. It can come forth from scripture, and it can also come forth from leadings of the Holy Spirit, which is where all scripture comes from. God didnt write the OT, and Jesus didnt write the NT. It was all inspired by the Holy Spirit. Its only that the simple majority of christians agree on some things being inspired over others. Now if some teaching comes forward supposedly by the Holy Spirit and you dont agree with it, thats fine, either it wasnt meant for you, its false, or its against what scripture teaches. One of those 3 options. When someone disagrees with something I say thats from the Holy Spirit, and I know it came from the Holy Spirit, and scripture doesnt disagree with what I said, then it NEVER comes back void. It will always do what it intended to do. Probably most God fearing ppl in the days of Noah highly disagreed with the ninevehites and wanted God's Judgement to fall upon them (which it eventually did), but God made sure the word went out to them. It was only after the mass conversion of them, that they recognized it for the word of God through Jonah. I pray that all hearts that have hardened against anything that disagrees with their scripture views will see the truth one day as the people of Israel eventually did. For I do not doubt in the least that we ALL will be at least slightly embarrassed for lack of spiritual awareness when we failed to recognize God's word in others.

KingJ · Jul 9, 2025

I see a sight like this as a type of 'Mars hill / Areopagus'. A place for open debate on Christianity among any who want it. Thanks to technology we don't need to travel to a place like Mars hill just to debate a topic. Paul would correct fellow Christians, convert the lost and help the needy there.

I see four types of people who would frequent a site like this.

1. Older Christians who love the Lord and want to mostly share with the occasional correction.
2. Christians who need help / young people yearning to grow and learn.
3. Unsaved who are looking for truth and find it here.
4. People who tasted of Christianity, rejected it mostly at some or other level and are now narcissistic trolls.

The 4th type of individual needs to be closely watched by moderators. They can cause strife and stumble the young and weak. It is hard to isolate them as even mature Christians seem to discuss with some level of heat. I feel many Christians today have become a lot more impatient than they used to be as the level of unsaved we deal with today are a very different breed to prior generations. Thanks to media.

I would like to see a 'safer space' for those in category 2. I get so upset when I see the 4th type of person counselling a new Christian.

For example, think of a 5 point Calvinist teaching a kid about Christianity. That poor kid will be so badly stumbled. Believing God is partial and at His core pure evil.

This sites core beliefs are very good. Definitely a place God will send the lost to!!

Garee · Jul 9, 2025

thelightbearsservant said:
All have gone the way of Jonah and have to be stubbornly lead back to where God wants them.

I would offer.

Interestingly both Jonah and Jesus the Son of man are used in companion three day and nights parables. as promised demonstrations of the Holy Father bruising of the sons heel (Gen 3:15 with Isaiah 53)

Jonah three days and nights suffering with three denoting the end of a mater /called the belly of the whale" And with the same kind of suffering unto death and not dead never to rise and the same called "heart of the earth" with Jesus the Son of man.

Heart of the earth another metaphor like belly of whale to represent the suffering of a bruised heel the Holy Father striking the Son in the parable..

The main difference. Racist Jonah the murmurer was dragged kicking against the pricks all the way and want to die rather than face the sin of racism .

While Jesus the Son of man did the will of the father with delight the power that did work in the Son of man do both give ear to the Father understnding and empowered to do it to the invisible Holy Father good pleasure.

Teaching the believer God is not served by the racist hands of mankind. Jesus did it with delight why murmur?

Philippians 2:13-14 ;For it (really) is God which worketh in you both to will (let there be) and to do (it was good) of his good pleasure.
;Do all things without murmurings and disputings: (Not like murmuring Jonah the racist)

B-A-C · Jul 9, 2025

Garee said:
Interestingly both Jonah and Jesus the Son of man are used in companion three day and nights parables.

Jonah wasn't a parable. No parables in the OT.

Garee said:
Teaching the believer God is not served by the racist hands of mankind. Jesus did it with delight why murmur?

And yet Pharaoh (not by his own choice) served God by discriminating and persecuting the Jews.

Garee · Jul 9, 2025

B-A-C said:
Jonah wasn't a parable. No parables in the OT.

And yet Pharaoh (not by his own choice) served God by discriminating and persecuting the Jews.

Not what kind of parable? Nursery Rymes ? Moral parables called Proverbs 1-30? historical parables? spiritual. . unseen, parables as mysteries of faith?

The false gospel, a spiritual understanding from the father of lying signs and wonders needed to wonder, wonder after as if true prophecy (sola scriptura) giving the illusion. God is still sending new prophecy

The living word of God informs the believers without even one parable Christ spoke not
.
Parables teach believer how to walk or understand the hidden things of Christ .Hid from the father of lies. Blinded by the gospel .

Yes, the father of lies the god of racism he gave Jonah the desire to die proving therefore God is not served by the dying hands as a will of mankind Jesus the Son of man did the will empowered by the Holy Father with delight.

B-A-C · Jul 9, 2025

I found it.

Thread 'Statement of Faith'

Jul 15, 2005

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. John 7:16,17

Inspiration of Scriptures

We believe that the Holy Bible is the written Word of the Living God. We believe it was inspired by the Holy Spirit and recorded by holy men of old. It is infallible in content and a perfect treasure of heavenly instruction which is truth without any mixture of error. The Bible reveals the principles by which God will judge us and reveals His...

B-A-C · Jul 9, 2025

Garee said:
The false gospel, a spiritual understanding from the father of lying signs and wonders needed to wonder, wonder after as if true prophecy (sola scriptura) giving the illusion. God is still sending new prophecy

The living word of God informs the believers without even one parable Christ spoke not

You really really need to quit adding words here.
Nothing you said here is close to being biblical.

There was a short while when Jesus spoke to crowds in parables.
He didn't start off His ministry with parables. He didn't end it with parables.
The disciples said "Now you are speaking to us plainly"..
Nothing before Jesus.. in the Bible is a parable. Nothing after Jesus in the Bible is a parable.

Jesus said signs and wonders will follow His followers.
The Bible says that signs and gifts will be given to the church.

You can't take one line like "an adulterous generation seeks after signs" and ignore dozens of other verses
That say there will be signs. Even Jesus, and the two witnesses will give signs. Even the apostle did wonders
and signs after Jesus was resurrected.

You can't get too hung up on one verse that was for a temporary time period and specific context.

B-A-C · Jul 9, 2025

What is the definition of the word "parable"?

1. a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels:

2. "the parable of the blind men and the elephant" · "a modern-day parable"

Jesus turning water into wine was not a parable. Jesus feeding the 5,000 was not a parable.
Jesus healing the blind man was not a parable. Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead was not a parable.
Jesus dying on the cross was not a parable. Jesus's resurrection and ascension was not a parable.
Jesus coming back to get His church is not a parable.

Nothing Paul, or James or Jude wrote is a parable.
Nothing Luke wrote in Acts is a Parable. Nothing in 1st, 2nd or 3rd John is a parable.
Nothing in the Old Testament is a parable.

John 16:29–30 (NASB95)
His disciples said, “Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech. Now we know that You know all things, and have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came from God.”

Obviously not everything Jesus said was a parable.

Garee · Jul 9, 2025

B-A-C said:
What is the definition of the word "parable"?

1. a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels:

2. "the parable of the blind men and the elephant" · "a modern-day parable"

Jesus turning water into wine was not a parable. Jesus feeding the 5,000 was not a parable.
Jesus healing the blind man was not a parable. Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead was not a parable.
Jesus dying on the cross was not a parable. Jesus's resurrection and ascension was not a parable.
Jesus coming back to get His church is not a parable.

Nothing Paul, or James or Jude wrote is a parable.
Nothing Luke wrote in Acts is a Parable. Nothing in 1st, 2nd or 3rd John is a parable.
Nothing in the Old Testament is a parable.

John 16:29–30 (NASB95)
His disciples said, “Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech. Now we know that You know all things, and have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came from God.”

Obviously not everything Jesus said was a parable.

Hi thanks

I would think just the opposite. As it is faithfully written, without the signified understanding using the temporal historical dying seen mixed with the unseen eternal Christ the Holy Father spoke not.

2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

No mixing of the two no gospel rest

I would suggest do not start a Bibel study without using the mixing tool above so that the parable is rightly divided Hebrews 4Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

The signified language of ceremonies shadows that look ahead to the fulfilment.

Hebrew 9:8-10 ;The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:;Which was a figure (parable) for the time (temporal) then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;;Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances,(shadows) imposed on them until the time of reformation.

B-A-C · Jul 9, 2025

Garee said:
would think just the opposite. As it is faithfully written, without the signified understanding using the temporal historical dying seen mixed with the unseen eternal Christ the Holy Father spoke not.

"As it is faithfully written"... Hmmmm... I don't even know where to start with this statement, it is so convoluted.

There was a time when "without a parable Jesus spoke not". But that isn't what you have written above. The word "parable" isn't
in your sentence at all. All the preamble about signified understanding and temporal historical dying" isn't written in the Bible at all.
So in this case... it definitely is not "faithfully written". Also Christ is definitely not the Holy Father... so that part isn't "faithfully written in the Bible either". In fact the only three words in your sentence that ARE written are "Christ" "Spoke" Not". all the other stuff is just words you made up that aren't in the Bible.

Yes, there was a time when Jesus spoke in parables. But there was a time after that when He did not.
If someone went to store. They could have been at thestore for a while. But if afterwards, someone says they came back home.
The last state of the situation is... they are at home, not at the store. Chronology matters in the Bible.

It says Jesus spole plainly, AFTER it said He spoke in parables, so the current state of things is.. Jesus speaks plainly, not in parables.

Garee said:
2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Different verse, different subject, different context. You can't just randomly mix things that have nothing to do with each other.

Garee said:
I would suggest do not start a Bibel study without using the mixing tool above so that the parable is rightly

This is coming from someone who mixed three verses to make up something that is "faithfully written" (which in reality isn't written at all).
So let us do what you say here... "without using the mixing tool" and try to keep from mixing subjects that have nothing to do with each other.

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