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If you’re a Christian and you support the modern geopolitical state of Israel, you deny that Christ is the Messiah. It's that simple.

That is the question in another thread.
Thank you so much for pointing that out.

(but I know you aren't a fan of Revelation)
It's not a question of being a "fan." The Revelation of John is not in our canon anymore than the Revelation of Peter is in yours. According to Eusebius, about half of the Bishops at Nicaea thought it to be spurious. But that's a question for another thread.
 
you have made Jesus into a human blood sacrifice to pay for your sins, not knowing what the scriptures say about ransom and sacrifice. How wonderfully pagan. You have turned the Messiah into a pagan blood sacrifice.

John 1:29 The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

Rev 5:6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.

Isa 53:5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.

1Pet 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matt 26:28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

Heb 9:13 For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh,
Heb 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 9:15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.
Heb 9:17 For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives.
Heb 9:18 Therefore even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood.

Heb 9:20 saying, "THIS IS THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT WHICH GOD COMMANDED YOU."
Heb 9:21 And in the same way he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry with the blood.
Heb 9:22 And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

1Pet 1:18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers,
1Pet 1:19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.

Eph 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace

Col 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

1Jn 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
Rev 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood

This is a core Christian doctrine, one of the few agreed upon by almost every denomination.
 
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What a circus. It's always fun and giggles to watch you make a post that trashes a scripture verse.

Irony. You ignore half the bible to arrive at your weird completely un-Christian beliefs.

Are they Jews if they turn and follow Christ?

Does your daughter stop being your daughter if she converts to Christianity?

Are those now in charge of the nation of Israel Christian?

1. Does your daughter stop being your daughter if she converts to Christianity?

2. What is a Christian?

OOPS... A.D. 70

If I give you a car and it is stolen, does it stop being your car?

(And I think loosing six million of them is not much protection.)

Do Christians endure hardships for their faith? If they do, is it evidence of them being evil and God abandoning them as a result?
 
That is the question in another thread.

Rom 2:26 So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a transgressor of the Law?
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

Gal 3:7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.

To me at least, the Bible uses the word "Jew" in 3 contexts, with (at least) three different meanings.
1. You can be a biological Jew, a biological descendant of Isaac. Gen 17:19; Rom 9:6-7;
2. You can be a person that follows Judaism, the Jewish religion. (even if you are a Gentile) Esther 8:17; Rom 2:17;
3. Or you can be saved-believer, a born-again Christian. Gal 3:28-29;

Possibly Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9, as well (but I know you aren't a fan of Revelation)

A Jew is both ethnicity and religion. Hebrews became Jews. All twelve tribes had to take part in religious activities and listen to what prophets said. IE All Hebrews had to become Jews. That is why today the term is used as their ethnicity.

It is important to understand this fact before trying to grasp scripture.

The term 'Jew' Jesus alludes to in your scripture is purely from a religious view. God wants Jews to drop Judaism and become Christian. This does not mean Jews stop being ''Jews''. That is why the correct term for a Jew who converts to Christianity is 'Christian Jew'.

They don't ever stop being ''Jews''. God's people chosen to be the holy bloodline of Jesus.
 
So now, you applaud Paul, when you disown him so many other times? I guess its convenience of winning any discussion, its all about winning, not about the truth.
Opening up a can of worms here aren't you? lol

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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If you think about it, Jews are the only people to ever be given a piece of land by the Creator of all. Everyone else took land and made it their own. Jews can tick both blocks, everyone else only the latter.
 
If you think about it, Jews are the only people to ever be given a piece of land by the Creator of all. Everyone else took land

What about the other descendants of Abraham? The Arabs, the sons of Ishmael?
 
If you think about it, Jews are the only people to ever be given a piece of land by the Creator of all. Everyone else took land and made it their own. Jews can tick both blocks, everyone else only the latter.
To be fair, God allotted it to them and helped them in some of the harder battles. But they still had to "take" it from those who were holding it at the time. I see this as purposeful in God's eyes. He wants us to be brave and fight for what is right and good.... not be babies our entire existence crying to Daddy for more food and no responsibility.
 
This is a core Christian doctrine, one of the few agreed upon by almost every denomination.
B-A-C

I think you omitted the part where @Rxlx wrote "Rhema said." Was it your purpose to deceive? (Note the question is a question, even if rhetorical.)

This is a core Christian doctrine, one of the few agreed upon by almost every denomination.
And yet something that Jesus never, ever taught. Just a doctrine espouse by other men.

Need I waste my time cleaning up your list ?? How about you deal with this first:

For in the day that I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.​
- Jeremiah 7:22 NRSV

And yet, there are parts of your post that should be addressed.

But he was wounded on account of our sins, and was bruised because of our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and by his bruises we were healed. All we as sheep have gone astray; every one has gone astray in his way; and the Lord gave him up for our sins. And he, because of his affliction, opens not his mouth: he was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before the shearer is dumb, so he opens not his mouth.​
- Isaiah 53:5-7 Brenton

The only one who "got it" was Philip.

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.​
- Acts 2:22-24 KJV

Jesus was crucified because of the iniquity of the Jews. Their sin caused them to kill him.

Matt 26:28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
Such an evil translation, to take the Greek word INTO and change it to OUT.

But @B-A-C, ... you still haven't figured out what the THIS is yet, have you.

LITERALLY, what is the THIS ??

Then you'll know what the blood is.

Rhema
(Of all those here, you're one of the smart ones who I pray can figure it out.)
 
So now, you applaud Paul, when you disown him so many other times? I guess its convenience of winning any discussion, its all about winning, not about the truth.
Mr. Huber, your 10th grade English teacher has failed you.

Sentences that end with a question mark are a question.
And surely you know that Paul cursed them??
And I even used TWO questions marks to make sure you saw this. Ah well....

God bless,
Rhema
 
If I give you a car and it is stolen, does it stop being your car?
If it was stolen, it certainly wasn't protected very well, was it?

Do Christians endure hardships for their faith? If they do, is it evidence of them being evil and God abandoning them as a result?
And if the Mormons endure hardships (and even martyrdom) for their faith? Does that show they're being protected by God?

(I might start to like this whole answering questions with questions thing.)


However, while I don't have a link to your post readily at hand, I recall that you believe one can be saved by martyrdom. That seems to show a remarkable ignorance of the main theme of the Old Testament that says "hardships" happens because one does not obey, and that if one DOES obey, God will deliver you.

Allow me to rephrase. The prophetic view of the OT clearly states that if BAD things happen, God is punishing you for your disobedience, but will deliver you if you obey.

God had the temple destroyed by the Romans because the Jews sinned and had his son murdered.

In other words, if bad things happen, it's because you are not under the protection of God.

But I'm sure you'll post your personal opinion as to why this too is wrong.

Rhema
 
But they still had to "take" it from those who were holding it at the time.
I can just hear you singing...

ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS....

And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.​
- Exodus 23:31 KJV

C'mon Brad... Did you forget about the whole Jericho thing?

Rhema
 
I can just hear you singing...

ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS....

And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.​
- Exodus 23:31 KJV

C'mon Brad... Did you forget about the whole Jericho thing?

Rhema
Do you think God has ordained the land of Israel to be used as a sign or metaphor to the whole world all the nations and we should protect it as the apple of his eye until the last day under the Sun ?

The same battle between Isaac God laughs at mankind. And the son of a slave Ismael (meaning "he will hear") and "el" (meaning God) a promise he will hear the gospel.

Mankind has made it all about flesh and blood against flesh and not the eternal spirit against the dying spirit of the father of lies in high places.

As if God was a racist .His people, all the nations. . not his race.. . outward un-converted Jew .

Beautiful gospel parable. .

Genisi21:13-20 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.;And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, (Gospel metaphor) and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.;And the (Gospel)water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.; And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bow shot: (Archer believer) for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.;Arise, lift up (ressurection) the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water;(gospel) and she went, and filled the bottle with water, (water of the word the gospel ) and gave the lad drink.;And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer(believer).

Job 2:4 And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.

Racism the sin of a stolen identity. Only God knows the heart of all men .Not the government .

Racism spiritual murder. . The reincarnation Pagan religion, what you see is what you get . God calls them faithless fools
 
I can just hear you singing...

ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS....

And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.​
- Exodus 23:31 KJV

C'mon Brad... Did you forget about the whole Jericho thing?

Rhema
LOL!!! This is exactly what debaters do, they pick parts of a thought and leave out the more significant portions. Not worthy of explaining to you.
 
Not worthy of explaining to you.
I thank you for your judgment, and I forgive you your disdain.

The whole point was that it was NOT the army of Israel that achieved victory, but the hand of God through supernatural means, not just "help" them.
God .... helped them in some of the harder battles

Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.​
- Psalms 20:7 KJV

Rhema
 
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