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There is a lot to consider with guardian angels.
To start, consider the fact that not all have the Holy Spirit and are yet still protected.
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There is a lot to consider with guardian angels.
To start, consider the fact that not all have the Holy Spirit and are yet still protected.
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A. Its not. Daniel mentions tens of thousands times tens of thousands. From discussions on this topic years ago, there was a scholar that posted the scripture and calculation. He came to 400 trillion.
B. Never said it was exact. But similar is similar. We are not similar to a monkey. Just beneath as Heb 2:7 states is more akin to a monkey and baboon.
C. You did not respond to this point. It is very important to grasp that a third of the angels were cast to earth.
D. Incorrect. Nephilim are not only mentioned in Gen 6:4, but throughout Gen 6 and also in Num 13:3, Num 13:30-33, 2 Sam 21:16-20, Deut 2:10, Rev 12:9, 1 Chron 20:8.
E. The relevance of Matt 24 / the point I am making is that fallen angels / demons engaged with mankind at the time of Noah. At the end of mankind. In the end times. We are once more in such times.
No lol. The end, the rapture will not be a complete surprise. Jesus gave us clear signs to look for. For example, He is crystal clear in Luke 17:28-37 that when earth is as it was in the days of Lot / Sodom, we can expect the end. Now today, the world is a global village and very sexually immoral. If the end is a surprise to any, they are very blind.
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One woman i found online told me she is a christian and she aborted her hybrid human-demon entity which she created consensually with a demon.
She told me sometimes Jesus gives her peace about what happened.
honestly, and i've had some pretty interesting conversations over the years with people who confess to "doing things" in the spiritual realm.. all i can say is they seem to know what they are doing and there may be far more of this "stuff" going on than we want to know about.
i don't think there is anything "new" yet, under the sun, so i tend to think the only way we will have "in the days of noah" is if more angels rebell.. which is at least theoretically possible.
I will say that "in the days of noah" people forget to include the rest of the conditions "when everyone was eating, drinking, giving in marriage" the second thing to understand is that violence is a word used for adultery. there was not open warfare in the days of noah, there was a lot of adultery, as there is today, an explosion of it, due to the information age and its content.
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Yet bad things happen to all of us.
Angels are messengers among other things.
The last part....was not needed nor wanted.
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Messenger? I thought they were guardians.
Jesus said the Holy Spirit was to tell /teach us all we need to know.
What does this messenger/guardian angel do that he can’t?
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Agreed.
Here in Africa there are some real crazy stories from missionaries that travel to villages. The problem is that there are too many people like @lentz who do not think long enough on a topic and deliver very shallow and weak insulting statements to those relaying something out of the ordinary. So most don't speak of their encounters.
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There is a lot of teaching in Christianity that many non-Christians mock. Many of the topics are spiritually discerned. The gift of speaking in a new tongue for example is a spiritual gift.
IE Many Christian truths appear to be nonsense to non-Christians. My post #102 for example is something a Christian who believes that the bible is the inerrant word of God, should witness with.
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The problem on an internet forum is that one does not always know who they are engaging in conversation with. You came off as an atheistic troll at first (no offence). Now you are coming off as just a difficult Christian who is very fixed in their specific idealogy. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose you would know the important matters well. Perhaps you should avoid discussions like one's on UFO's? You appear to be very close minded, even when presented with scriptures. Not such a bad thing, as its probably better to not dab in certain topics. But, try be a little more understanding for those that have and do?
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Dear lentz,
I'm surprised you believe in God, or that you were drawn to Christ Jesus by a Holy Spirit, having not seen Him, or touched Him. Don't get me wrong, I am glad you do! For you are blessed! How do I know you are blessed?
Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." John 20:29 NKJV
I'm not saying that your faith, is mutually exclusive to believing in UFOs, but I have read the words of some atheist who were more considerate in how they have expressed their disagreements to those who do believe in a God then you have been here to brethren of yours in Christ Jesus on this subject of UFOs.
You can be a cynic all you want, but how you communicate to others and what they believe against what you believe to be true does matter. Don't you know that you can be right and still be wrong? You were kind enough at least to me in stating that it was "a nice story" when I communicated to you on my mother's experiences on UFOs. After seeing how you have responded to others, I wonder that it's less a kindness then a concern due to me being a Moderator, and/or the belief that insulting my mother would have gone badly for you, instead of the reason being that I'm a Brother in Christ Jesus. Which is as it should be, not just to me but to others as well.
It would be appreciated if you could come up with other words in place of the minimizing ones you have used to voice your disagreement with others here and elsewhere. These are not battlefields where one finds victors/losers, but where we can grow in knowledge and fellowship with other believers. What we truly try to do, we do to the Glory of God brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
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Dear lentz,
I'm surprised you believe in God, or that you were drawn to Christ Jesus by a Holy Spirit, having not seen Him, or touched Him. Don't get me wrong, I am glad you do! For you are blessed! How do I know you are blessed?
Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." John 20:29 NKJV
I'm not saying that your faith, is mutually exclusive to believing in UFOs, but I have read the words of some atheist who were more considerate in how they have expressed their disagreements to those who do believe in a God then you have been here to brethren of yours in Christ Jesus on this subject of UFOs.
You can be a cynic all you want, but how you communicate to others and what they believe against what you believe to be true does matter. Don't you know that you can be right and still be wrong? You were kind enough at least to me in stating that it was "a nice story" when I communicated to you on my mother's experiences on UFOs. After seeing how you have responded to others, I wonder that it's less a kindness then a concern due to me being a Moderator, and/or the belief that insulting my mother would have gone badly for you, instead of the reason being that I'm a Brother in Christ Jesus. Which is as it should be, not just to me but to others as well.
It would be appreciated if you could come up with other words in place of the minimizing ones you have used to voice your disagreement with others here and elsewhere. These are not battlefields where one finds victors/losers, but where we can grow in knowledge and fellowship with other believers. What we truly try to do, we do to the Glory of God brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
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Because I don’t believe in little green man,I’m an atheist.
You people are fools I used to have great respect for you Nick,but you have turned out to be just another liberal twit.
If you are offended,you know what you can do. And you also know,I couldn’t care less.
To think that a person is judged a Christian by whether he believes in spaceships or not is ridiculous.
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Dear lentz,
I'm surprised you believe in God, or that you were drawn to Christ Jesus by a Holy Spirit, having not seen Him, or touched Him. Don't get me wrong, I am glad you do! For you are blessed! How do I know you are blessed?
Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." John 20:29 NKJV
I'm not saying that your faith, is mutually exclusive to believing in UFOs, but I have read the words of some atheist who were more considerate in how they have expressed their disagreements to those who do believe in a God then you have been here to brethren of yours in Christ Jesus on this subject of UFOs.
You can be a cynic all you want, but how you communicate to others and what they believe against what you believe to be true does matter. Don't you know that you can be right and still be wrong? You were kind enough at least to me in stating that it was "a nice story" when I communicated to you on my mother's experiences on UFOs. After seeing how you have responded to others, I wonder that it's less a kindness then a concern due to me being a Moderator, and/or the belief that insulting my mother would have gone badly for you, instead of the reason being that I'm a Brother in Christ Jesus. Which is as it should be, not just to me but to others as well.
It would be appreciated if you could come up with other words in place of the minimizing ones you have used to voice your disagreement with others here and elsewhere. These are not battlefields where one finds victors/losers, but where we can grow in knowledge and fellowship with other believers. What we truly try to do, we do to the Glory of God brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
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Make no mistake,I am not afraid of you because you are a moderator on a little social media platform.
As far as your mother goes,I saw no reason to bash her. I am always kind to mothers.
You know,I also don’t believe in the tooth fairy,so I guess that makes me the Antichrist in your eyes.
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These are false accusations. You have misread the post. Calm down, sit back and reread.
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The Word talks about that.....1 Corinthians 2:13-15 13 These are the things we are talking about when we avoid the manner of speaking that human wisdom would dictate and instead use a manner of speaking taught by the Spirit, by which we explain things of the Spirit to people who have the Spirit. 14 Now the natural man does not receive the things from the Spirit of God — to him they are nonsense! Moreover, he is unable to grasp them, because they are evaluated through the Spirit. 15 But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him.
When a man reads the Word with his intellect and without the guidance of the Holy Spirit he cannot understand the Word....Its all nonsense.
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A fine brave pontification based on nothing.
Inaccurate.
Possible.
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Simply Messenger as a Apostles. How beautiful are their feet shod with the gospel of peace
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Dear Brother,
I hope you took Brother KingJ's suggestion in post #132 and reread what I wrote to you. I had to reread your above post too! Initially I thought you were saying that you were an atheist!!! I had half a page written back to you before I skimmed the thread and saw Brother KingJ's post which had me reread yours! That is when I realized you weren't saying that you were an atheist, but that you thought I was calling you one because you didn't believe in "little green man"! lol Had to delete all of what I was going to write to you!!!
Oh, by the way, calling me a liberal probably has them pulling their hair out if they were to hear that! lol I put what liberals or conservatives, and everybody else far left/right/in-between against what Scripture says. It usually aligns more with conservativism then liberalism, but not always...remembering the all-important context!
Now, if you read again my post I'm sure you've reconsidered the above. If you don't quite get it, which I believe you didn't by your above reply, and the reread doesn't help in seeing my meaning, then let me know if you want me to reword it so you might understand where I'm coming from.
I don't get offended easily, so no problemo. Maybe folks in AR a little more touchy. lol I was there once on a farm back in the early 70's with another guy whose family was buying some land there (pre-saved days) and we stopped by a side of the road bar, and I almost got shot in the head. Instead, it was the bartender who got grazed in the side of his head.
Haven't been back there since! The Lord does work in mysterious ways. He was probably trying to tell me something!Oh, by the way I'm glad you're not afraid of me because if you were I'd have to do some heavy praying to see where my wording has gone wrong in communicating what I believe the Spirit wants me to say to others.
Until I figured out that it was my mom who put the nickel sometimes a penny (we were pretty poor) under my pillow, I did have questions!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Can't be a UFO brother! It's been identified!
Oh, by the way I spent 20 years in the Air Force.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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Can't be a UFO brother! It's been identified!
Oh, by the way I spent 20 years in the Air Force.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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They are all ufos until identified
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Did you watch the video? The SR72 is not yet finalized and it is not the shape of a typical UFO as identified by the US navy
.A video much ado about nothing.