Daniel L. said:

One rejected, you still have to reject the other verses.

Yes, if you follow the Two commandments, you would follow also the ten commandments. Because if you love your neighbour you shalt not kill, right? And so on, but this law explains it better:

Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

-Now, remember that the animals, also have the Breath of Life, and you can't go around killing animals, not even according to the law of men. It is iniquity, how much more with the Law of God? -They were never food from the beginning, and God doesn't change, so His Word and His Law didn't change from then to now. It remains the same for ever.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man [...]

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And the first part of that is to love the lord your God with All your heart, with all your soul, with all your soul and with all your mind. -- the first and greatest -- and the second is like it -- you shall love your neighbor as yourself."

To love the Lord your God with your entire being 1st and Then you'll have a love for other people.


Salvation is for People not the animal world.

It's against the law to kill / murder people.

People get hunting licenses for fishing and deer hunting..people eat what they catch. Rabbit also for eating. Nothing against the law. Same with chickens and turkeys. All of this has been stated previously.
And the shed blood of an animal on the doorposts of houses -- the death angel would Passover those houses with the flood on the door posts.

Old Testament yearly blood sacrifices for the sins of the people. Animal sacrifices. As has been pointed out to you

@Daniel L.
Dear Brother Daniel,
I know you have posted this in a desire to help those you believe are not living properly. It is to this Spirit and purpose that I address this to you.
The prohibitive nature or should I say what we know is that Man didn’t always eat meat. However, looking at Scripture in the OT one can see where/when God allowed for man to do so.

(1) So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. (2) "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move [on] the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. (3) "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. (4) "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, [that is], its blood. Genesis 9:1-4 NKJV

So, even allowing for not including the NT guidance, it would mean that as long as it is done in a Kosher (Kashrut) manner which the Jews (Orthodox) follow, it is acceptable according to the Bible to eat meat.

(20) "When the LORD your God enlarges your border as He has promised you, and you say, 'Let me eat meat,' because you long to eat meat, you may eat as much meat as your heart desires. (21) "If the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, then you may slaughter from your herd and from your flock which the LORD has given you, just as I have commanded you, and you may eat within your gates as much as your heart desires. (22) "Just as the gazelle and the deer are eaten, so you may eat them; the unclean and the clean alike may eat them. (23) "Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood [is] the life; you may not eat the life with the meat. (24) "You shall not eat it; you shall pour it on the earth like water. Deuteronomy 12:20-24 NKJV

Now as far as continuing in the vein that you have on this subject, you would do well to read and pray upon the following Scripture that I'm providing you. For it speaks to the words you have used here against brethren and they against you, but for what reason but to make a point of law?

(1) Receive one who is weak in the faith, [but] not to disputes over doubtful things. (2) For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats [only] vegetables. (3) Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. (4) Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. (5) One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. (6) He who observes the day, observes [it] to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. (7) For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. (8) For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. (9) For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. (10) But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. (11) For it is written: "[As] I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God." (12) So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. (13)Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in [our] brother's way. Romans 14:1-13 NKJV

With the Love of Christ Jesus Dear Daniel.
YBIC
Nick
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Sue D. said:

It's against the law to kill / murder people.

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Yes, and also animals because they have the same Breath of Life. Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man [...]

Sue D. said:

People get hunting licenses for fishing and deer hunting..people eat what they catch.

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Until the day, where the hunter will be hunted, the killer will be killed, and the eater will be eaten.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Sue D. said:

Old Testament yearly blood sacrifices for the sins of the people. Animal sacrifices. As has been pointed out to you

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Did Jesus ever needed a blood sacrifice in order to forgive people? Or did He just forgive them right there on the spot? -There is no remmision of sins in wickedness, only in repentance and ammendment. It has also been pointed out to you that blood sacrifices are an abomination, but it all comes down to whom will ye serve. You can't serve both masters, tho.

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

-There is no need for blood sacrifice to attain remmision of sins. Remmision is in repentance and ammendment.

Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Hello, and thank you.

Christ4Ever said:

Scripture in the OT one can see where/when God allowed for man to do so

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First understand that Adam was created to eat herbs and fruits. This is the Will of God. That man should life by the herbs and fruits, from working the land.

Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Now, understand that God is Perfect, so He won't change His Mind, nor His Word, nor His Law.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

-So, when you present me with a verse that dishonors Him, and His Perfect Nature, by implying that He changed His Mind, it is already refuted from the start, because the Will of God has not changed, so it is impossible for God to have said such a thing, even if men say He did. Another reason is the Breath of Life in the animals, the living Soul of the Father present in all living creatures. So, Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man [...] Killing an animal is the equivalent to killing a man, it is murder, and God said Thou shalt not kill, which means He will never legalize the murder of animals.

-And yet another reason is that the LORD hates hands that shed innocent blood, so He will never allow for the shedding of innocent blood, not of animals, not after the flood, not for food, nor ever. He cannot change, not even if men try to change His judgements.

Christ4Ever said:

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Genesis 9 says nothing about Kosher, it says "every moving thing that lives", so I would ask you, are you a "moving thing that lives"? -Because if you are, you are food according to this verse, and if you are going to accept this verse, you are going to accept cannibalism. Kosher doesn't come until way after the fact, so at the very least you have a period of legal cannibalism, from Noah to Levi. Which is yet another impossible change in the Law of the Perfect God that changes not. His law is not to be forsaken, His Words will not pass away, meaning there was never a change in His Law, even if men try to change it, in the letter.

-Now you choose whom will ye serve. The Perfect God that changes not, or the one who changed. You can't serve both masters.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

Jesus Christ came into this world to be the final sacrifice for the sins of people. And That brought an end for the need of the yearly sacrifices for sin in the Old Testament.

In the New Testament , Jesus Christ did Many miracles of healing on the spot. The people put their faith / trust in knowing that He could heal them. And I the process they were seeing that there was indeed a higher power than themselves healing them. Jesus Christ was on effect leading them to God the Father.

Daniel L. said:

Yes, and also animals because they have the same Breath of Life. Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man [...]

Until the day, where the hunter will be hunted, the killer will be killed, and the eater will be eaten.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Did Jesus ever needed a blood sacrifice in order to forgive people? Or did He just forgive them right there on the spot? -There is no remmision of sins in wickedness, only in repentance and ammendment. It has also been pointed out to you that blood sacrifices are an abomination, but it all comes down to whom will ye serve. You can't serve both masters, tho.

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

-There is no need for blood sacrifice to attain remmision of sins. Remmision is in repentance and ammendment.

Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

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The plan for salvation through Jesus dying for us was the plan even before the earth was made, it was made before anything was made.

The sacrifice of animals was a shadow, a teaching tool of what Jesus would do for us.

There is no greater love than when one lays down his life for his friends.

It is a covenant that God made, and you are speaking against so many things in the whole Bible.

Daniel L. said:

Hello, and thank you.

First understand that Adam was created to eat herbs and fruits. This is the Will of God. That man should life by the herbs and fruits, from working the land.

Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Now, understand that God is Perfect, so He won't change His Mind, nor His Word, nor His Law.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

-So, when you present me with a verse that dishonors Him, and His Perfect Nature, by implying that He changed His Mind, it is already refuted from the start, because the Will of God has not changed, so it is impossible for God to have said such a thing, even if men say He did. Another reason is the Breath of Life in the animals, the living Soul of the Father present in all living creatures. So, Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man [...] Killing an animal is the equivalent to killing a man, it is murder, and God said Thou shalt not kill, which means He will never legalize the murder of animals.

-And yet another reason is that the LORD hates hands that shed innocent blood, so He will never allow for the shedding of innocent blood, not of animals, not after the flood, not for food, nor ever. He cannot change, not even if men try to change His judgements.

Genesis 9 says nothing about Kosher, it says "every moving thing that lives", so I would ask you, are you a "moving thing that lives"? -Because if you are, you are food according to this verse, and if you are going to accept this verse, you are going to accept cannibalism. Kosher doesn't come until way after the fact, so at the very least you have a period of legal cannibalism, from Noah to Levi. Which is yet another impossible change in the Law of the Perfect God that changes not. His law is not to be forsaken, His Words will not pass away, meaning there was never a change in His Law, even if men try to change it, in the letter.

-Now you choose whom will ye serve. The Perfect God that changes not, or the one who changed. You can't serve both masters.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

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Dear Daniel,
Clearly you didn't pray about the Scripture I provided to you, or apparently gave it any thought at all.

Scripture provides clarity when you take the entirety of it into context.
You however, are stuck in a bubble that only has the doctrine you believe to be true, and reject even Scripture that would show you anything contrary to your belief. Apparently this belief comes from picking and choosing the verses that coincide/support your doctrine, all the while rejecting without comment or thought what goes against it.
That is a sad commentary on your desire for knowing what God has said verses what you believe it says, and doing Scripture in that fashion is called eisegesis.
You would do better if you conducted yourself like the Bereans and allow the Holy Spirit to grow you closer to God instead of further away. However, we serve a patient God, and He'll be waiting for you when you're ready.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Sue D. said:

Jesus Christ came into this world to be the final sacrifice for the sins of people.

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Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

-Jesus declares the forgiveness of sins to many, without any blood sacrifice required, the only thing needed was faith, repentance and ammendment. Jesus proved there is no need to shed innocent blood for the forgiveness of sins, only believe on Him, with true faith, that is. And if you remember, God doesn't change, which means it was always that way, blood sacrifices are corruption of the covenant of Levi, they were never commanded by God, they were never needed for attonement.

Christ4Ever said:

reject even Scripture that would show you anything contrary to your belief

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That is how it goes, you must choose whom will ye serve, at least I don't reject God's Perfect Immutable Nature.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

Mathew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Baruch 4:1 This is the book of the commandments of God, and the law that endureth for ever: all they that keep it shall come to life; but such as leave it shall die.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:144 The righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.

152 Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

-So you also reject Scripture as you can see, and quite a few, because you can't have both, either He is Perfect, or he changed his mind. Choose whom will ye serve.

Christ4Ever said:

this belief comes from picking and choosing the verses that coincide/support your doctrine

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I accept the verses that honor Him, and reject the verses that dishonor Him, because Scripture cannot dishonor Him, I only accept Scripture. True Scripture, honorable to Him.

@Daniel L. -- are you saying that the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross wasn't necessary for our salvation?

Also take a look at Hebrews 9: 18-22. The shedding of blood.

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are you saying that the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross wasn't necessary for our salvation?

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His Blood is His Life, His Truth, His Way, His doctrine, His Gospel, His Words. These are necessary for salvation. It has nothing to do with carnal red blood, as the carnal mind perceives it to be.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

-Or do you think that the high priests, the romans, or Judas got theirs sins attoned for because they blood sacrificed a Perfect Lamb? -No, they got their condemnation increased. Because no blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation.

-The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.

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Also take a look at Hebrews 9: 18-22. The shedding of blood.

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Choose whom will ye serve. Remember, when Jesus heals people, He does it based on faith, not based on blood sacrifice, how many times did Jesus declare "Thy sins are forgiven thee"? And in none of those cases was there any blood sacrifice required. Only faith was required, blood sacrifices cannot attone for sin, they are a sin in of themselves, an abomination unto the LORD.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

-Even tho the witness of Jesus is enough to refute that idea, these are the verses that prove, from the old testament, that you don't need to shed innocent blood at all, in order to be forgiven. Not before Christ, not during Moses, not during David, not ever. Even since the beginning, you only needed repentance and ammendment, unto this very day: repent and believe in Jesus.

Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

Ezekiel 33:19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Job 22:23 If thou return to the Almighty, thou shalt be built up, thou shalt put away iniquity far from thy tabernacles.

Job 36:10 He openeth also their ear to discipline, and commandeth that they return from iniquity.
11 If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Jeremiah 7:5 For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Jeremiah 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

-David is a great example, he was forgiven without any blood sacrifice. He confessed.

2 Samuel 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.”

Psalm 51:2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.

16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Psalm 32:5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

-So, as you can see, David was forgiven without any blood sacrifice. He confessed and was forgiven.

Acts 10:13; A voice came to him, "Get up, Peter, kill and eat!"
Acts 10:14; But Peter said, "By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean."

@Daniel L. ... who was the voice telling Peter to kill and eat?

Acts 11:7; "I also heard a voice saying to me, 'Get up, Peter; kill and eat.'
Acts 11:8; "But I said, 'By no means, Lord, for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered my mouth.'

again... who is the voice telling Peter to "kill" and eat here?

Luke 15:23; and bring the fattened calf, kill it, and let us eat and celebrate;

Who is the one speaking here, telling the parable of the prodigal son?
Saying kill the fattened calf. Let us eat.

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who was the voice telling Peter to kill and eat?

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-Not the voice of God, it wasn't.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

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Who is the one speaking here, telling the parable of the prodigal son?
Saying kill the fattened calf. Let us eat.

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Not Jesus. There is no new thing under the sun, if they changed His judgements back then, so did they now.

Ezekiel 5:6 And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.

Ezekiel 22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

-Or do you think this is the only commandment that was never broken by no one?

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

Daniel-- it's All God's Word.

When Jesus died on the cross and His blood was shed-- He was here as the Son of God. He was the first born son of the virgin Mary. 100% human and 100% divine. It's the shed blood of Jesus Christ that God sees us through when a person accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. God sees us a justified. Just as if we'd never sinned. Because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

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Because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

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Are you also going to drink His carnal red blood?

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Daniel L. said:

Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

-Jesus declares the forgiveness of sins to many, without any blood sacrifice required, the only thing needed was faith, repentance and ammendment. Jesus proved there is no need to shed innocent blood for the forgiveness of sins, only believe on Him, with true faith, that is. And if you remember, God doesn't change, which means it was always that way, blood sacrifices are corruption of the covenant of Levi, they were never commanded by God, they were never needed for attonement.

That is how it goes, you must choose whom will ye serve, at least I don't reject God's Perfect Immutable Nature.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

Mathew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Baruch 4:1 This is the book of the commandments of God, and the law that endureth for ever: all they that keep it shall come to life; but such as leave it shall die.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:144 The righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.

152 Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

-So you also reject Scripture as you can see, and quite a few, because you can't have both, either He is Perfect, or he changed his mind. Choose whom will ye serve.

I accept the verses that honor Him, and reject the verses that dishonor Him, because Scripture cannot dishonor Him, I only accept Scripture. True Scripture, honorable to Him.

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Dear Daniel,
You are correct that God does not change, but He does add onto. Easy example is the different Covenants He has made with man. This does not reflect change, but an addition under newly defined conditions defined by God that requires an agreement between two or more parties.

That being said. How did the verses I provided to you reflect that God has changed. Take care how you read both what you provided and what I have provided to you from Scripture. Remembering that adding to is not God changing, but rather God adding to the conditions by which He has determined what is acceptable or not as it pertains to Humanity and Himself!

I want you to be clear in this, because if you start questioning the validity of Scripture that is referenced to you from valid Autographs/Manuscripts, then you put into question, I repeat put into question Christ Jesus Himself, and your own Salvation through Him. For if there is no certainty in the Scripture that is being used, then there is no certainty in the Gospel! So, this warning on how you decide to answer, because you have tossed out there more than once how Scripture being referenced is wrong.

Oh, one more question. Maybe, you have said in one of your postings and I missed it, but are you a Vegetarian or a Vegan?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Daniel L. said:

Are you also going to drink His carnal red blood?

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

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His 'carnal red blood.'. ?!


Take a look at 1st John 1: 7. "and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin."

Christ4Ever said:

God does not change, but He does add onto

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God cannot sin..

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

What do you think was added? -Nothing was added to the Law, the new covenant was a revelation, the Light came into the world, and we beheld His glory.

Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

-There is no addition to the Law, but the Law was revealed to all nations. The veil was torn, so people could see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed. Nothing was added, but everything was revealed. He revealed the Father and His Law, which is and always has been the same: repent and be healed, turn ye, turn ye, turn from your wicked ways, cease to do evil before mine eyes, learn to do well, repent and be baptized, there is no new thing under the sun.

So, murder was not legalized after the flood, that is impossible. His Law endureth forever, such as leave it shall die.

Psalm 119:152 Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

Christ4Ever said:

For if there is no certainty in the Scripture that is being used, then there is no certainty in the Gospel!

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There is certainty in Scripture, I only toss out verses that dishonor Him, because Scripture cannot dishonor Him, any verse that dishonors Him is therefore, not Scripture, so I guess you could say, I only accept Scripture. You can be certain that Scripture is True and does honor Him, likewise you can be certain that verses that dishonor Him are not Scripture, for Scripture cannot dishonor Him. This did the LORD so that it might be made manifest who really loves Him, and whose sheep are His, who follow after His voice, and a stranger they will not follow, because they know not the voice of strangers.

Sue D. said:

Take a look at 1st John 1: 7. "and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin."

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Yes, His Blood is Life, His Gospel, His Words, His Truth. It has nothing to do with carnal red blood, that is the interpretation of the carnal mind. His Blood is drink indeed, for the Spirit, that is. His Parables, His Teachings, His Commandments.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.