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When you 1st came to Christ, did they Tell you Lies Too! Those who led you?

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I mean after you came to Christ. then became a member of a local church and then they began to teach you. like Telling you the Tithes lies. and and how to be bless by GOD and you had to go to church and all of the other Religious. and Calvinism is this. but taught you "pelagianism and Arminianism" or semi-Arminianism and indoctrinating you their bias Christianity that they favored and they did not tell you the difference in between the systematic studies so that you may decide for your self after had known the Truth of the views. And why the different view points. But indoctrinated you.
That is want i mean. " Little white lies".

Really no church teaches teaches "THEOLOGY"!

They teach christianity and religion. and about their denomination.

For There are different kinds of Theology. now days. most people do not even know what "Theology" is really is.

Now days the devil, since he is the ruler of this world. The prince, the god of this world. He has give many new definitions for the word "Christianity", the word christian, the word Theology, and the word "holy Scripture", and the word church:= circe. For "Etymology" of words is a GOD given. gift. To the Redeem.

Chuckle!! You must have really gotten into a Denomination full of Religious Bozos!!! Sure the Southern Baptists had their issues, but when one actually bothers to READ THE BIBLE and find out what it says, things straighten out nicely.

SO today, I'm a Member in good standinf in the Assemblies of God Denomination, and generally but not completely in agreement with their MAIN concepts. They don't define me, since I'm essentially a Non-Denominational, non Systematic, Calvinist leaning, Charismatic, eclectic.
 
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SO today, I'm a Member in good standinf in the Assemblies of God Denomination, and generally but not completely in agreement with their MAIN concepts. They don't define me, since I'm essentially a Non-Denominational, non Systematic, Calvinist leaning, Charismatic, eclectic.
LOL great mix
 
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Chuckle!! You must have really gotten into a Denomination full of Religious Bozos!!! Sure the Southern Baptists had their issues, but when one actually bothers to READ THE BIBLE and find out what it says, things straighten out nicely.

SO today, I'm a Member in good standinf in the Assemblies of God Denomination, and generally but not completely in agreement with their MAIN concepts. They don't define me, since I'm essentially a Non-Denominational, non Systematic, Calvinist leaning, Charismatic, eclectic.
I fully understand. my experience was over 44 years ago by the the 1st year in after reading the text. I found out something was not right.

Well, how would the unlearn babe know the difference what is sound and what is unsound. So he go's to church. a church is a church to a little bitty baby. Until they get to know the difference between right and wrong. :sob: I have never saw a baby come out the womb grown. They don't have teeth, they don't know how to talk, crawl, walk, run, and how to keep his hands out of the fire. Let alone, know about a toilet. and the bath tub.

Just like Luther said: "The church is a "Great Ahore" and I love her, because she is my mother, if it was not for her, i never would have known about "JESUS":pensive:
 
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I fully understand. my experience was over 44 years ago by the the 1st year in after reading the text. I found out something was not right.

Well, how would the unlearn babe know the difference what is sound and what is unsound.

It's called THE BIBLE!!! WHen you READ IT, then you find out how everything works. The other thing is (when you're first saved) you don't know anything - so you TAKE HIS YOKE UPON YOU and learn of HIM - which you'll be doing for the rest of your physical life, and when you lack WISDOM, ytou AKS HIM, and he'll promises to give you wisdom - IF you want it single mindedly.

ANd, of course looking to MAN for wisdom, is something that the Bible WARNS AGAINST. Maturity doesn't "Just happen". It takes time. I've been in this now for 58 years, and I still find out things.
 
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It's called THE BIBLE!!! WHen you READ IT, then you find out how everything works. The other thing is (when you're first saved) you don't know anything - so you TAKE HIS YOKE UPON YOU and learn of HIM - which you'll be doing for the rest of your physical life, and when you lack WISDOM, ytou AKS HIM, and he'll promises to give you wisdom - IF you want it single mindedly.

ANd, of course looking to MAN for wisdom, is something that the Bible WARNS AGAINST. Maturity doesn't "Just happen". It takes time. I've been in this now for 58 years, and I still find out things.
Yes, they got you too, big time, and they etched in stone.:pensive: the got you good.

What does the word Bible mean literally?

Etymology. The English word Bible is derived from Koinē Greek: τὰ βιβλία, romanized: ta biblia, meaning "the books" (singular βιβλίον, biblion). The word βιβλίον itself had the literal meaning of "scroll" and came to be used as the ordinary word for "book".

And it is shame when Jesus is taken out of the equation. It is so sad.

And I know i cannot speak full TRUTH at this time. For my enemy is at bay. and waiting for my foot to slip. And I do have "Hope" in GOD to keep my feet out of "SLIPPERY" Places.:pensive:

PS i have never seen a BABY read! or chew meat. at least not on earth.:eyes:
 
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Yes, they got you too, big time, and they etched in stone.:pensive: the got you good.

What does the word Bible mean literally?

Etymology. The English word Bible is derived from Koinē Greek: τὰ βιβλία, romanized: ta biblia, meaning "the books" (singular βιβλίον, biblion). The word βιβλίον itself had the literal meaning of "scroll" and came to be used as the ordinary word for "book".

And it is shame when Jesus is taken out of the equation. It is so sad.

And I know i cannot speak full TRUTH at this time. For my enemy is at bay. and waiting for my foot to slip. And I do have "Hope" in GOD to keep my feet out of "SLIPPERY" Places.:pensive:

PS i have never seen a BABY read! or chew meat. at least not on earth.:eyes:
Meaningless -
 
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No, YOUR words are Meaningless!
what words are you referring to in what post and concerning what?

Don't forget i ain't a christian But I am a "Child OF GOD" and That is a "Absolute". My [our] FATHER hears every word you say about me. and He loves me.:eyes: be careful what you say in the dark.:eyes: He knows your thoughts:eyes: What you say and think in the dark will come to Light. And by your fruits you will know yourself too.
 
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what words are you referring to in what post and concerning what?

Don't forget i ain't a christian But I am a "Child OF GOD" and That is a "Absolute". My [our] FATHER hears every word you say about me. and He loves me.:eyes: be careful what you say in the dark.:eyes: He knows your thoughts:eyes: What you say and think in the dark will come to Light. And by your fruits you will know yourself too.
1.There, you admitted it.."I'M NO CHRISTIAN"!!
2. If you : in your own words, are no Christian, ALL of YOUR words are meaningless.
3. If you: in your own words , are no Christian...What I understand of the Gospel,
and though God may love you VERY much, He made the rules, I didn't, I can only receive that as you reject Christ, are no believer and according to the Bible, are BLASPHEMOUS , and certainly no Child of God!
4. Think about this: "A Child OF God"
Is that your définition or Gods??
 
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Don't forget i ain't a christian But I am a "Child OF GOD"


1.There, you admitted it.."I'M NO CHRISTIAN"!!
2. If you : in your own words, are no Christian, ALL of YOUR words are meaningless.
3. If you: in your own words , are no Christian...I can only receive that as you reject Christ, are no believer and according to the Bible are certainly no Child of God!

Greetings,

yes, it seems to be the message being put across. Wearing a bit thin, too.

One could read it as being 'better than those smelly Christians', a cut of superior make and model.

@PloughBoy , so often you let the readers know that according to you, you are a Child of God. That is very nice and even better than nice, as anyone who has received of the adoption from the Father would know. However, i also read so often all about the 'boy from the hood' and other 'ploughboy, ploughboy PloughBoy talk' which tends to be in the face of what a true child of the King would be speaking. You (anyone) is either a new creation or the old man, unregenerate. Same as the 'my grand daddy or whoever' said this or that. etc. Now, please do not get me wrong about this, i am in no way showing any disrespect to your folk, and have zero interest in doing so, but as someone who constantly claims in bold letters to be a Child of God, you also so often use reference to your earthly kin as the plumb line of truth and reason others should believe what you say about yourself and sometimes even about the Lord GOD.

And by your fruits you will know yourself too.


Being a Christian is not a bad thing. Yes, there are too many bad eggs in the basket... or should we say, tares in the wheat, but does that mean we should no longer identify as wheat? I trow not.
Also, what make me or you or anyone a 'good egg'? (that should really be, Who makes....)

Perhaps think about your choices when partaking in threads and discussions. The reaction from Born Again 2004 @Born Again 2004 indicates that your profession of not being a Christian is either confusing or sad, or both, but on top of that, it draws unnecessary attention to you, which is not really what you want, is it?

Post in Peace


Bless you both ....><>
 
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Greetings,

yes, it seems to be the message being put across. Wearing a bit thin, too.

One could read it as being 'better than those smelly Christians', a cut of superior make and model.

@PloughBoy , so often you let the readers know that according to you, you are a Child of God. That is very nice and even better than nice, as anyone who has received of the adoption from the Father would know. However, i also read so often all about the 'boy from the hood' and other 'ploughboy, ploughboy PloughBoy talk' which tends to be in the face of what a true child of the King would be speaking. You (anyone) is either a new creation or the old man, unregenerate. Same as the 'my grand daddy or whoever' said this or that. etc. Now, please do not get me wrong about this, i am in no way showing any disrespect to your folk, and have zero interest in doing so, but as someone who constantly claims in bold letters to be a Child of God, you also so often use reference to your earthly kin as the plumb line of truth and reason others should believe what you say about yourself and sometimes even about the Lord GOD.




Being a Christian is not a bad thing. Yes, there are too many bad eggs in the basket... or should we say, tares in the wheat, but does that mean we should no longer identify as wheat? I trow not.
Also, what make me or you or anyone a 'good egg'? (that should really be, Who makes....)

Perhaps think about your choices when partaking in threads and discussions. The reaction from Born Again 2004 @Born Again 2004 indicates that your profession of not being a Christian is either confusing or sad, or both, but on top of that, it draws unnecessary attention to you, which is not really what you want, is it?

Post in Peace


Bless you both ....><>
Never said I was a "Child of God" but have stated , according to his own admission, @PloughBoy and before God, is not one!
He is "WEARING" A BIT THIN with all his anti-Jesus talk.
It doesn't matter how good He thinks he is , it is Jesus's Righteousness, not his.
Again this is a "Talk Jesus" forum, why is he even here ?
 
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Never said I was a "Child of God" but have stated , according to your own admission before God , you ARE NOT ONE!
YOU ARE "WEARING" A BIT THIN.
Again this is a "Talk Jesus" forum, why are YOU here ?

Hello BA2004,
It is difficult from this response to tell if you are talking to ploughboy or Br Bear ?
 
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Greetings,

yes, it seems to be the message being put across. Wearing a bit thin, too.

One could read it as being 'better than those smelly Christians', a cut of superior make and model.

@PloughBoy , so often you let the readers know that according to you, you are a Child of God. That is very nice and even better than nice, as anyone who has received of the adoption from the Father would know. However, i also read so often all about the 'boy from the hood' and other 'ploughboy, ploughboy PloughBoy talk' which tends to be in the face of what a true child of the King would be speaking. You (anyone) is either a new creation or the old man, unregenerate. Same as the 'my grand daddy or whoever' said this or that. etc. Now, please do not get me wrong about this, i am in no way showing any disrespect to your folk, and have zero interest in doing so, but as someone who constantly claims in bold letters to be a Child of God, you also so often use reference to your earthly kin as the plumb line of truth and reason others should believe what you say about yourself and sometimes even about the Lord GOD.

Being a Christian is not a bad thing. Yes, there are too many bad eggs in the basket... or should we say, tares in the wheat, but does that mean we should no longer identify as wheat? I trow not.
Also, what make me or you or anyone a 'good egg'? (that should really be, Who makes....)

Perhaps think about your choices when partaking in threads and discussions. The reaction from Born Again 2004 @Born Again 2004 indicates that your profession of not being a Christian is either confusing or sad, or both, but on top of that, it draws unnecessary attention to you, which is not really what you want, is it?

Post in Peace


Bless you both ....><>
I have repeated in my testimony, right here on talkjesus. why I refused to claim to be called a christian, even my dying mother knows i refuse to call myself a christian and i always told the Truth why i am not one. I will not go against The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY who has had corrected me and discipline me very hard about what mankind have decided to call me. And I FEAR GOD, and will try my best to surrender and be a obedient "Slave" to Jesus Christ who is My [our] LORD and MASTER. I know i am not perfect. and most likely the worst sinner that anyone can image right here on "TalkJESUS". And I cannot call myself a christian. By all of the difference definitions of what a christians is [Etymology] that over 40 million denominations and 2,6 Billion christians throughout the world, and the languages and all of the indiviual cultures cannot agree with one another. And well documented and I am not "Speculating" ,their own private definitions and in constance fighting against one another on what it is and what it is not. I am not taking sides. If a person says he is a christian, I believe he or she is a christian, and I will not judge that person, but will honor them whom He or she claims they are And my thoughts will not go any further.:pensive: to cipher where they fall among the 40 million or the 2.6 Billion.

I have met strangers from many nations and cultures, Some have approach me both male and female, even with tears in their eyes and said these very words "all of them "you are my brother and i love you" "Koinonia" had fallen upon us out of no where, and we never ever saw one another before and heard one another speak one word, and of different "Languages" not once in all of these years maybe a couple of times a person have called me a christian, normally because i have reach in my pocket to give money, they hope for a dollar, when I reach in i have given them a whole lot more than they could ever have expected. and then the beggar would light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night. and have said you are a Christian. My response, no i am not. "I am A Child of The LIVING GOD". as I would notice their faces, would have such amazement. it bewilders me. I say nothing more. And i walk on, because i have no 'unction' by "The Spirit of The LIVING GOD" to say anything, but every now and then i would look back and i would see them standing there and just look at me as i walked away, as if they are in Bewilderment as well. And i give it no more thought.

So well documented in "christianity" Historical Records and in The Natural History Books as well, throughout The WORLD and "The Historical Books of Anthropology" both Biblical and Non-Biblical Records as well. The conflicts of "Christianity" and the different practices. And I condemn not one. for history has its own voice.

I cannot bow to what i am not , but i can identify that who I am, For my Father which is in Heaven have told me "personally" who i am. "Indicatively". I cannot go against HIM :pensive: what HE has Told me personally, I cannot please 'The created creatures" of "GOD" and please Him too.

In my earlier years in my walk in Christ i did,
I preached to be like, I taught to win their approval. The approval of christians and non-Christians alike. They would say: I loved to heard how he proclaims the Word, oh how he can "PREACH" the "word of GOD' they Loved the way i sounded. And How i knew the very words that came out of the BOOK. I did not need a Script or a Out line. But could bring heaven to earth, 'they said" not me. And i did not preach the "word of faith" or "The Prosperity Gospel". I preach THE very WORD of GOD" and they loved it. they would bring they sons and daughters , cousins, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, and even the little kids, 6,7, 10, 12, 14, 18 years of age. Would line up and says we have never heard a preacher like You preach GOD"S WORD. All week even in their dreams they could still hear me. And my preaching made them wanting to please GOD. and walk in His ways and "surrender" all to Jesus.

I know how to please christians, non christians, devil worshippers, IDOL god worshipers. Muslims, Roman Catholics, Luthers, Jehovah Witnesses, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, those of Universalism, Church of The Chaldeans, Greek Orthodox Church, The Community of The Jewish People, Methodist all Branches, the Church of The Lebanese [Maronite church], and many more if i dare to remember, of my "Brothers and Sisters" that i got to know in the LORD.:pensive: and never did the word christian or christianity ever came out of our mouths. And My [ours] Father brought this unto my attention as we walked together as the writer have wrote; "in the cool of The DAY".:pensive:

American Standard Version
It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me.

PS. I will try to be careful in the treads in which i will address in the future, that I may try to live peaceful as possible with all men.

I have nothing against christians all 2.6 billion and counting. I am just not one of them. My conscious is at peace with me that The World cannot give me. I am at peace and all is well with my soul.

Do any remember when we used to say: "How is your soul doing." and some would say: "it is well with my SOUL" and they would smile.

And "Salutations" my friend.
"It is well with my soul" and I know it is "Well with your Soul" as well. humbly speaking. Your brother in Christ, our LORD.
 
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I fully understand. my experience was over 44 years ago by the the 1st year in after reading the text. I found out something was not right.

Well, how would the unlearn babe know the difference what is sound and what is unsound. So he go's to church. a church is a church to a little bitty baby. Until they get to know the difference between right and wrong. :sob: I have never saw a baby come out the womb grown. They don't have teeth, they don't know how to talk, crawl, walk, run, and how to keep his hands out of the fire. Let alone, know about a toilet. and the bath tub.

Just like Luther said: "The church is a "Great Ahore" and I love her, because she is my mother, if it was not for her, i never would have known about "JESUS":pensive:
From early childhood I knew something was seriously wrong with these organised religions, and removed myself from them. Not one fills the role they claim to fill. No not one. I have seperated myself ever since from the worldy organised religions Satan set up a long time ago. Even the southern baptists now have homosexual priests and are "woke". They were never the Lords to begin with.
 
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Ignore works for those who talk to much. Building a zillon words hoping to find elevation.
 
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I have repeated in my testimony, right here on talkjesus. why I refused to claim to be called a christian, even my dying mother knows i refuse to call myself a christian and i always told the Truth why i am not one. I will not go against The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY who has had corrected me and discipline me very hard about what mankind have decided to call me. And I FEAR GOD, and will try my best to surrender and be a obedient "Slave" to Jesus Christ who is My [our] LORD and MASTER. I know i am not perfect. and most likely the worst sinner that anyone can image right here on "TalkJESUS". And I cannot call myself a christian. By all of the difference definitions of what a christians is [Etymology] that over 40 million denominations and 2,6 Billion christians throughout the world, and the languages and all of the indiviual cultures cannot agree with one another. And well documented and I am not "Speculating" ,their own private definitions and in constance fighting against one another on what it is and what it is not. I am not taking sides. If a person says he is a christian, I believe he or she is a christian, and I will not judge that person, but will honor them whom He or she claims they are And my thoughts will not go any further.:pensive: to cipher where they fall among the 40 million or the 2.6 Billion.

I have met strangers from many nations and cultures, Some have approach me both male and female, even with tears in their eyes and said these very words "all of them "you are my brother and i love you" "Koinonia" had fallen upon us out of no where, and we never ever saw one another before and heard one another speak one word, and of different "Languages" not once in all of these years maybe a couple of times a person have called me a christian, normally because i have reach in my pocket to give money, they hope for a dollar, when I reach in i have given them a whole lot more than they could ever have expected. and then the beggar would light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night. and have said you are a Christian. My response, no i am not. "I am A Child of The LIVING GOD". as I would notice their faces, would have such amazement. it bewilders me. I say nothing more. And i walk on, because i have no 'unction' by "The Spirit of The LIVING GOD" to say anything, but every now and then i would look back and i would see them standing there and just look at me as i walked away, as if they are in Bewilderment as well. And i give it no more thought.

So well documented in "christianity" Historical Records and in The Natural History Books as well, throughout The WORLD and "The Historical Books of Anthropology" both Biblical and Non-Biblical Records as well. The conflicts of "Christianity" and the different practices. And I condemn not one. for history has its own voice.

I cannot bow to what i am not , but i can identify that who I am, For my Father which is in Heaven have told me "personally" who i am. "Indicatively". I cannot go against HIM :pensive: what HE has Told me personally, I cannot please 'The created creatures" of "GOD" and please Him too.

In my earlier years in my walk in Christ i did,
I preached to be like, I taught to win their approval. The approval of christians and non-Christians alike. They would say: I loved to heard how he proclaims the Word, oh how he can "PREACH" the "word of GOD' they Loved the way i sounded. And How i knew the very words that came out of the BOOK. I did not need a Script or a Out line. But could bring heaven to earth, 'they said" not me. And i did not preach the "word of faith" or "The Prosperity Gospel". I preach THE very WORD of GOD" and they loved it. they would bring they sons and daughters , cousins, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, and even the little kids, 6,7, 10, 12, 14, 18 years of age. Would line up and says we have never heard a preacher like You preach GOD"S WORD. All week even in their dreams they could still hear me. And my preaching made them wanting to please GOD. and walk in His ways and "surrender" all to Jesus.

I know how to please christians, non christians, devil worshippers, IDOL god worshipers. Muslims, Roman Catholics, Luthers, Jehovah Witnesses, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, those of Universalism, Church of The Chaldeans, Greek Orthodox Church, The Community of The Jewish People, Methodist all Branches, the Church of The Lebanese [Maronite church], and many more if i dare to remember, of my "Brothers and Sisters" that i got to know in the LORD.:pensive: and never did the word christian or christianity ever came out of our mouths. And My [ours] Father brought this unto my attention as we walked together as the writer have wrote; "in the cool of The DAY".:pensive:

American Standard Version
It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me.

PS. I will try to be careful in the treads in which i will address in the future, that I may try to live peaceful as possible with all men.

I have nothing against christians all 2.6 billion and counting. I am just not one of them. My conscious is at peace with me that The World cannot give me. I am at peace and all is well with my soul.

Do any remember when we used to say: "How is your soul doing." and some would say: "it is well with my SOUL" and they would smile.

And "Salutations" my friend.
"It is well with my soul" and I know it is "Well with your Soul" as well. humbly speaking. Your brother in Christ, our LORD.
Hmmm. For some reason, I don't feel that YOU are a "Brother -in-Christ"! And until you change, don't take the liberty to call me that!!
This is a Talk Jesus Forum, not a anti-Talk Jesus forum , please go some where else and vomit!
 
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Chuckle!! You must have really gotten into a Denomination full of Religious Bozos!!! Sure the Southern Baptists had their issues, but when one actually bothers to READ THE BIBLE and find out what it says, things straighten out nicely.

SO today, I'm a Member in good standinf in the Assemblies of God Denomination, and generally but not completely in agreement with their MAIN concepts. They don't define me, since I'm essentially a Non-Denominational, non Systematic, Calvinist leaning, Charismatic, eclectic.

"but when one actually bothers to READ THE BIBLE and find out what it says, things straighten out nicely..." Boy was that a statement !

:)
 
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