Hello
@PloughBoy,
I do not deny the presence of Hell, but question the traditional view of what it is. For the word 'Hell' has been ill used and abused throughout the centuries, and heavily influenced by Greek philosophy and so on.
The word Hell, when stripped of all that man has done to it, is a middle English word meaning 'to hide away'. It's usage in Scripture is as, 'the place of the dead' or 'the grave'. It was an ideal word for translating the Hebrew and Greek words, 'Sheol and 'Hades', 'Gehenna' and 'Tartaroo', And even the fires of end time judgment, for which 'Gehenna' is used by our Lord Himself, is the place where the dead are destroyed finally and utterly.
It is not a place of eternal and conscious punishment for mankind as is traditionally upheld.
I am sorry if I am now at odds with you, Ploughboy: but I must be true to what I have found to be true, through the patient study of each of these Hebrew and Greek words and their usage within Scripture.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
No "complete" me and you can never be at odds, and it is "completely" impossible for that to happen whether you know it or understand that or not.
Now in addressing the viewing context of the text in question. And may i say, you do have a way of a good approach when addressing the texts that come into question,
I understand the Created word "hell" and why it was
"coin" and the purposed why it was
"coin". And moving on from that for now. But a short "
burst" it was
"coin" for the unlearn common man.
For the place that "GOD" has created for
"Torment" when the creatures arrived at that place they will wish He did have a "HELL" and a "LAKE BURNING With FIRE and BRIMSTONE" a place where their worms did not die. For HELL would be a place Liken unto "Palm Trees" Sunshine, Blue Skies, and Crystal Clear waters, and White Sandy beeches.
Many do not understand the lies that have been spoken and taught concerning "THE TRUTH" of GOD, fearing that they may drive the Masses from their "CHURCHES". There is a place of "TORMENT" that has been prepared and there is "No HUMAN WORD" that can address The "HORROR" of That "ETERNAL" place, that also Exist in "ETERNITY".
for It is a "ETERNAL" DEATH. A Place where the dead will be forever dying. and will never come to a place of rest.
Now what says your human heart?
The people of This world and most "CHRISTIANS" have no idea what "THE LOVE of GOD is. They think of GODLY LOVE in a human corrupted mentality. They are thinking about their kind of LOVE and Think That GOD'S LOVE IS EVIL! when you place "The TRUTH" before "Their thoughts and faces": He would never do such a evil thing as that. he is A GOOD GOD., their Proclamation . They think their thoughts of GOOD are in line with "GODS" thinking because they have been mis lead by "THE GREAT WOMEN" who sits on The 7 CONTINENTS of The WORLD and all of her "Offsprings" .
For This is one of
"THE ADVERSARY"S" greatest "achievements" on "PLANET EARTH" who's authority has been given by his "creator".
And The other one is that "GOD and HIM is at War with one another. But "THE TRUTH" is , He actually is only a "Tool" of GOD The FATHER used in "THE MANIFESTATION of THE GLORIFICATION of The Glory that will be reveal in the sons of GOD that will be manifested through out "ETERNITY" for we are
the Chosen ones who are
"THE GLORY of GOD" [Indicative]. [indicative] [indicative]
1st. The people of this world do not know who they are and what they have become
2nd. Most of The "TRUE Children of GOD" have no idea where they are at and who they are among. and they have no idea what they are molded from and how they are being shaped. Thy have no hint whatsoever. And a lot of the "True CHILDREN of GOD" which is only a "Few' a small Remnant for now. But during The Coming Tribulations especially during The 2 part know as the GREAT TRIBULATION , JACOBS TROUBLE, A GREAT Number will be "REDEEM" and more will be saved during the "Millennium" Reign.
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And no one has to believe any on this, "For it will come to pass"
Most Christians have no idea of "The ANTHROPOMORPHIC LANGUAGE" of The BIBLE.. For many always force their :Humanity into The "Bible" and refused to accept The Corruptness of Their being. And think they are lovable by a "PURE" And "HOLY GOD" which is "IMPOSSIBLE" Straight up. For The ONLY
"WAY" it is "POSSIBLE" it is THE LOVE HE has for HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN "SON" in Whom HE LOVES.
Whosoever LOVES the SON
will be LOVED by THE FATHER>
Without THE Shedding of Blood there is no Redemption.
When I see the Blood I will pass over you.
"FOR THE LION OF JUDAH HAVE PREVAILED'
"and I saw a lamb that looked like He was Slayed before The FOUNDATION of THE WORLD"
And The most detesting part about a human being they think they are "worthy for The Son of GOD to come down and die for them"
Example:
Many do not believe the Biblical text concerning "HELL",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But they can believe: "GOD So LOVE EVERYBODY ON Planet earth Beyond HIS SON who is HOLY and PURE, and Put HIM in Corrupted FLESH, and PUT HIM at The Submission of a 'devil' AND "DEMONIC CREATURES." But they can except that. they are so lovable. and kind most previous, GOD SO LOVE EVIL PEOPLE and corrupted people He wants to kill his pure and HOLY SON. to save them.
THE BIBLE SAID: HE suffered and he cried with strong tears and He feared. and another writer wrote
He Said: HOW LONG will I, be you
[ghetto language] Father hurry up and get me up out of here "The whole world hated JESUS the CHRIST of GOD!
A whole lot people walking around here "Like they Are A bag chips" And the best of these "Creatures" is just as vile than it can get.
Many do not believe me. Take a test of your own self. Walk around for couple of mos. don't wash, cut those toe nails and finger nails, and don't comb that hair if you got any. and if you wear make up don't put none on. and take off the clothes you wearing around house and after a month look in the mirror slowly because you might faint from horror. and You haven't seen nothing yet, because GOD has a covering over you, so you cannot see the TRUTH of What you really are. It takes deception to another level. Beyond your imagination,
You do not want to see what you really look like. That is why, it is great GRACE to be change in
"THE Twinkling of The EYE" Because you might die before you die from fright. for you sure cannot run.
Now when you start opening those cans of worms, you better think. That is why i have told many through the years, when you start digging in the TRUTH, do not stop diggings when you think you have found a nugget.
Now I am going to give you a nugget. Mostly those who digs deeper into The Truth in GODS Word are the Ones who have found out About "THE TITHING LIE" delivered by the institutionalize Church system; They were not looking to prove the Tithe is false. But as reading the Bible as a whole they stumble up on it and The LIGHT Came on! Then they thought they found something in the BIBLE that Their pastor or Church is not aware of.
So normally go to the Pastor 1st. and try to show them what they have found. And all hells breaks loose. And they wonder what is wrong. And no one wants to listen. So they dig deeper and they see it clearly. Now they wonder how many more lies they been told to them, Now their study of The BIBLE has went to a NEW LEVEL. And they get mad, and think about all the money they put in there. And how did they miss that TRUTH all of this These years....And they know they got to forgive. ...And they start reading every dot in that BIBLE. they do not take no ones word. They wear that BIBLE out. Instead of paying "TITHE" they start buying good dictionaries, computers, and they research and leery of church people. Especially those Bible teachers and pastors.
This is how GOD brings many closer to Him in Maturity in Him. "That Money" is a deal breaker. You would rather have given that money to your wife. She could have bought those pretty heels and that nice dress and some of that smell good sauce and you could still paid the light Bill and a new Car note for her and saved some money in the bank........That devil will showed you what you could have done "MAGNIFIED"
Then you can understand the meaning of the term what they call in the Hood; "SUNDAY MORNING STICK UP".
So i am not going into this hell thing. for the word hell was coined for the unlearn and has its purpose. It is enough TRUTH in GOD's WORD in translations and Paraphrase to bring one to Christ who is "THE SALVATION OF GOD" And why did GOD send His SON into The World?
"Whosoever BELIEVES in HIM shall obtain Eternal Life" and does one need a bible or translation to get saved? answer: No.
Does one need a Bible to stay saved? Answer: No.
And as for Hell, GOD has created a place of "TORMENT" for those who are going there. more terrifying than a place describe as HELL by the Human writers could ever imagine or coin.
