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I cannot answer your inquiry intelligently unless you be specific. In which component
of my love are you interested: apapao or phileo?
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Agape/agapao. Describe your agape in as much detail as you can, and tell me in as much detail how you agapao.
 
Loyal
The post you quoted says nothing of agape. It's focus is upon proper application of the verb agapao.


There are times when Heaven's love is conditional; for example:

"If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love; just as I
have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in His love." (John 15:10)

The Greek noun translated "love" in that passage is agape, which is a nondescript
noun. In other words; agape alone doesn't tell me whether the love in view is
affectionate or non affectionate, i.e. phileo or agapao. For example John 3:16 which
says:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

The love in that passage is conjugated from the Greek verb agapao, which informs
me that God experiences pity for the world without necessarily liking the world. This
is somewhat similar to the sympathy that many of us experience for a desperate
stranger with a cardboard sign that says "Lost job due to Covid 19"

And then there's this:

"Then Jesus, beholding him, loved him" (Mark 10:21)

The Greek word translated "love" in that passage is conjugated from phileo, which
basically speaks of affection, fondness, and bonding. (cf. 1Sam 18:1)

Here's an hypothetical situation that breaks John 3:16 down to something practical.

Evangelist: Did you know that the Bible says God loves you?

Audience: God likes me?

Evangelist: Sorry, my bad. I should've been specific. I was asking if you were
aware that God pities you.

Audience: Pities me?! What's to pity?

Evangelist: You are on the road to a future that's so disagreeable Jesus said you'd
be better off to lose a hand or an eye than to end up there.

UPDATE: 248 days have elapsed since my first comment. If the figures in post No.5
are in the ball park, then something like 15,406,752 new arrivals have checked into
the fiery sector of Hades since Oct 08, 2020.
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Your hypothetical situation is a horrible way to express John 3:16 -- and you really believe that That is Practical. I'm sitting here shaking my head.
 
Active
I cannot describe my love in detail without including phileo.
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You can't describe your agape and how it is you agapao because you simply don't, not as God does. You phileo your friends neighbors acquaintances co-workers, you storge your family members, you eros your spouse, in fact all three can be applicable to all three relationships, but you don't agapao them because you can't. True unadulterated agape and agapao is divine, and only God is able. You can try to agapao them, indeed you are commanded to do so, and your effort to do so would be welcome by those you target, but you'd fall short.

Tell me: do you "Agapēseis the Lord your God with all with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself”? If yes, please tell me how you do so.

 
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God pities the world's deplorable spiritual condition and offers a remedy for it
(Luke 2:8-14) but that shouldn't be construed to mean that He likes the world. In
point of fact, God regrets its creation. (Gen 6:6)

FAQ: Doesn't God know the future?

A: Yes.

FAQ: God knew in advance that He would regret creating mankind?

A: Yes.

FAQ: Knowing in advance that He would regret it; God went ahead and created
mankind anyway?!

A: Yes.

FAQ: You mean to tell me that the hundreds and thousands of people on a
road to the fiery section of Hades could've been prevented, i.e. nipped in the bud?

A: Yes.

FAQ: And that makes sense to you?

A: No.

UPDATE: 249 days have elapsed since my first comment. If the figures in post No.5
are in the ball park, then something like 15,468,876 new arrivals have checked into
the fiery sector of Hades since Oct 08, 2020.
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Loyal
@Beetow

God has all knowledge -- He is also the creator of everything. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created. And He saw that it was all good.

Because God knows everything -- He knew that He would be providing for the salvation Of Mankind.

He Also created mankind with freedom of choice. And He also knows who will accept His gift of salvation that He would be providing for us. "Who so ever will , may come," And, yes, there Is the wide gate that's very easy to find and then there is the narrow gate that is easily missed. And we Do have God's Word that tells us how to Find that narrow gate. And satan is Also around to steer us To the Wide gate and he knows what will happen to those to go through it. Their ending will be the lake of fire and brimstone. Rejecting God's salvation will have 'us' spending eternity with satan, the beast and the false prophet. And That is totally avoidable.

God is also Sovereign -- He has The master plan for this world and every one of us in it.

This present world is not the permanent home for any of us. The garden of Eden Could have been our permanent home -- but satan got in the way and Adam and Eve listened to him instead of God's Word. The eternal home for born again believers is in the future New Jerusalem.

Actually No one knows how many people are in Hades "We" can speculate all we want to. Maybe our focus Should be more on how to reach the lost souls with the Gospel unto salvation.

God Also knows that all the aborted babies are with Jesus Christ. And maybe That number is bigger than all the adults who have chosen The way for salvation.
 
Active
It's very difficult to find a Christian with integrity.

When a rational skeptic points out that some of God's actions are not only
unreasonable, but also downright evil, selfish, and sadistic; the average Christian
typically becomes defensive. Instead of forthrightly agreeing that the critical
thinker's appraisals make sense; the defensive Christian waxes eloquent with
bombastic apologetics, deftly concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have
sometimes entertained the very same opinions.

I sincerely believe God appreciates honesty and totally despises deceit. So; if
perchance the day comes when God asks each of us point blank:

Was there ever a time when you felt that some of my actions were unreasonable,
unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

The answer coming out of our mouths better not be what we think He wants to
hear, or some scripted response learned in church, rather; exactly what He knows
already, i.e. it had better not be equivocation, sophistry, or bombastic rhetoric, no,
it had better be a crisp Yes or a No; and it had better be honest.
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Active
It's very difficult to find a Christian with integrity.

When a rational skeptic points out that some of God's actions are not only
unreasonable, but also downright evil, selfish, and sadistic; the average Christian
typically becomes defensive. Instead of forthrightly agreeing that the critical
thinker's appraisals make sense; the defensive Christian waxes eloquent with
bombastic apologetics, deftly concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have
sometimes entertained the very same opinions.

I sincerely believe God appreciates honesty and totally despises deceit. So; if
perchance the day comes when God asks each of us point blank:

Was there ever a time when you felt that some of my actions were unreasonable,
unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

The answer coming out of our mouths better not be what we think He wants to
hear, or some scripted response learned in church, rather; exactly what He knows
already, i.e. it had better not be equivocation, sophistry, or bombastic rhetoric, no,
it had better be a crisp Yes or a No; and it had better be honest.
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You err. You grievously err. There is no evil whatever in God. God is entirely good and entirelyrighteous. Evil, and that which man calls evil, is permitted by God so that His perfect righteousness could be revealed to those that trust Him and lean not on their own understanding. Woe to you who call good evil. Isa. 5:20. Heretics.
 
Active
(chuckle) Circling the wagons Jerry? and of course wrapping your apologetic with a
condemning remark. Aw-Haw-Haw-Haw-Hawwwwww!
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How edifying you are. NOT. And you call yourself a follower of Jesus. Do remember: "Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18. With love, from Jerry.
 
Active
A pastor in Arizona recently utilized a highway billboard to poll people's opinion not
of Christianity, rather; what people think of Christians. Here's the gist of his
message:

DESCRIBE CHRISTIANS WITH ONE WORD
Text Me-- 480-630-1152

The results of the poll can be viewed on Instagram @

iamlandonmacdonald (all lower case letters)

Some responses:

Hateful
Gullible
Ignorant
Satanist
Judgmental
Hypocritical

I haven't responded to the poll; but if I do, my one word would be Defensive, or
quite possibly Reactive, or Militant.

UPDATE: 251 days have elapsed since my first comment. If the figures in post No.5
are in the ball park, then something like 15,593,124 new arrivals have checked into
the fiery sector of Hades since Oct 08, 2020.
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Active
A pastor in Arizona recently utilized a highway billboard to poll people's opinion not
of Christianity, rather; what people think of Christians. Here's the gist of his
message:

DESCRIBE CHRISTIANS WITH ONE WORD
Text Me-- 480-630-1152

The results of the poll can be viewed on Instagram @

iamlandonmacdonald (all lower case letters)

Some responses:

Hateful
Gullible
Ignorant
Satanist
Judgmental
Hypocritical

I haven't responded to the poll; but if I do, my one word would be Defensive, or
quite possibly Reactive, or Militant.

UPDATE: 251 days have elapsed since my first comment. If the figures in post No.5
are in the ball park, then something like 15,593,124 new arrivals have checked into
the fiery sector of Hades since Oct 08, 2020.
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If you, @Beetow, consider yourself Christian, and you respond to this poll, be sure to speak for yourself and respond with this one word: Prideful. ❤
 
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be sure to speak for yourself and respond with this one word: Prideful
I haven't seen the complete list, but surely someone suggested mean-spirited,
clannish, toxic, and elitist.

Those behaviors are fairly common among Christians; and oh, by the way, the
pastor didn't specify which denomination of Christianity; he apparently included
everybody, i.e. both sides of the aisle, way off the aisle. and down the middle too.
When they're all included, regardless of their affiliation and/or their alignment-- the
crackpots, the kooks, the fakes, and the real McCoys --Christians add up to
something like 2.52 billion souls: very nearly 1/3rd the population of the world.
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Active
I haven't seen the complete list, but surely someone suggested mean-spirited,
clannish, toxic, and elitist.

Those behaviors are fairly common among Christians; and oh, by the way, the
pastor didn't specify which denomination of Christianity; he apparently included
everybody, i.e. both sides of the aisle, way off the aisle. and down the middle too.
When they're all included, regardless of their affiliation and/or their alignment-- the
crackpots, the kooks, the fakes, and the real McCoys --Christians add up to
something like 2.52 billion souls: very nearly 1/3rd the population of the world.
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Active
I haven't seen the complete list, but surely someone suggested mean-spirited,
clannish, toxic, and elitist.

Those behaviors are fairly common among Christians; and oh, by the way, the
pastor didn't specify which denomination of Christianity; he apparently included
everybody, i.e. both sides of the aisle, way off the aisle. and down the middle too.
When they're all included, regardless of their affiliation and/or their alignment-- the
crackpots, the kooks, the fakes, and the real McCoys --Christians add up to
something like 2.52 billion souls: very nearly 1/3rd the population of the world.
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I haven't seen the complete list, but surely someone suggested mean-spirited,
clannish, toxic, and elitist.

Those behaviors are fairly common among Christians; and oh, by the way, the
pastor didn't specify which denomination of Christianity; he apparently included
everybody, i.e. both sides of the aisle, way off the aisle. and down the middle too.
When they're all included, regardless of their affiliation and/or their alignment-- the
crackpots, the kooks, the fakes, and the real McCoys --Christians add up to
something like 2.52 billion souls: very nearly 1/3rd the population of the world.
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@Beetow, you bloviate an awful lot , but you still haven't answered a single question I've asked. Typical narcissistic, with superiority complex, tendency.[/QUOTE]
 
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In the second chapter of the book of Daniel is told the story of Nebuchadnezzar's
dream. He demanded his wise men to tell him the interpretation of the dream but
withheld the dream's details; without which they could not answer.

But God had observed the king's dream; and revealed its details, along with its
interpretation, to Daniel.

Prior to the invention of radio and television, it was likely thought entirely
miraculous that God is able to observe the brain's imaginations, but now I'm not so
sure. Modern technology has led me to suspect that the human brain broadcasts
signals that can, with appropriate equipment, be received and processed into sound
and pictures that can then be observed and/or recorded like episodes of Murder She
Wrote and the Good Witch.

Modern technology has actually helped to make God's ability to observe dreams far
more believable than ever before. Plus, if the brain is sending signals, then it can
likely receive them too, so that God can send a dream, or an imagination, or a
vision, or a bright idea to your head with little more difficulty than your cell phone
sending a video to friends back east.

Don't laugh. There was a time when it was thought impossible to fly to the moon;
that is until the Russians successfully launched the first Sputnik back in October of
1957.

UPDATE: 253 days have elapsed since my first comment. If the figures in post No.5
are in the ball park, then something like 15,717,372 new arrivals have checked into
the fiery sector of Hades since Oct 08, 2020.
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