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But if we have food and clothing.....

Fragrant Grace

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But if we have food and clothing; we will be content with these; 1 Timothy 6:8.

To be obsessed with smart clothes, and to be known as someone with this obsession, is frankly as shameful as chumming about with harlots, or seducing other men’s wives! What earthly difference does it make to anyone with an ounce of sense, whether he wears a luxurious robe or a cheap workman’s coat, as long as it keeps him warm in winter and cool in summer?

It’s the same principle everywhere else. We mustn’t surround ourselves with more abundance than need requires, not to be so fixated on the body that our soul starves. It’s just as disgusting for a man (if he even deserves the name) to be neurotic about smart clothes and mollycoddling his body, as it is to be infected with any other moral failing. The man who spends half his time trying to render his body gorgeous neither knows himself nor understands that wise precept: “What you can see of a man is not the true man. We need higher wisdom to enable us to recognize ourselves.” But unless we sanctify our minds, this will be as impossible as a dozy-eyed man gazing into the sun.

This sanctification of our souls, generally speaking, and to put it in language anyone can understand, is all about holding cheap the mere pleasures of the senses. So we don’t feast our eyes on the silly shows of performers, not ogle human bodies to excite sensual pleasure. We don’t allow immoral songs to pour in through the ears and drench the soul. Shameful and smutty passions are naturally stirred up by this sort of music. No, we promote a different kind of music, noble itself and leading to what is noble – the sort of music by which David, the poet of the sacred songs, emancipated King Saul from his madness.

Basil of Caesarea (330-79)
 
But if we have food and clothing; we will be content with these; 1 Timothy 6:8.

To be obsessed with smart clothes, and to be known as someone with this obsession, is frankly as shameful as chumming about with harlots, or seducing other men’s wives! What earthly difference does it make to anyone with an ounce of sense, whether he wears a luxurious robe or a cheap workman’s coat, as long as it keeps him warm in winter and cool in summer?

It’s the same principle everywhere else. We mustn’t surround ourselves with more abundance than need requires, not to be so fixated on the body that our soul starves. It’s just as disgusting for a man (if he even deserves the name) to be neurotic about smart clothes and mollycoddling his body, as it is to be infected with any other moral failing. The man who spends half his time trying to render his body gorgeous neither knows himself nor understands that wise precept: “What you can see of a man is not the true man. We need higher wisdom to enable us to recognize ourselves.” But unless we sanctify our minds, this will be as impossible as a dozy-eyed man gazing into the sun.

This sanctification of our souls, generally speaking, and to put it in language anyone can understand, is all about holding cheap the mere pleasures of the senses. So we don’t feast our eyes on the silly shows of performers, not ogle human bodies to excite sensual pleasure. We don’t allow immoral songs to pour in through the ears and drench the soul. Shameful and smutty passions are naturally stirred up by this sort of music. No, we promote a different kind of music, noble itself and leading to what is noble – the sort of music by which David, the poet of the sacred songs, emancipated King Saul from his madness.

Basil of Caesarea (330-79)
'But if we have food and clothing;
we will be content with these;'
(1 Timothy 6:8)

Hello @Fragrant Grace,

While reading this I had a picture of a man standing on his soap-box, letting rip about what was really exercising his mind at that moment, so that when I reached the end and saw that it was not you, but Basil of Caesarea, who was doing so, all fell into it's proper place. I could not fit my impression of you into the way these words were being expressed.

I agree with these thoughts of his: but my mind went to the woman in Proverbs 13:10-31 for some reason. Looking it up I could see why, for it says of her,

'She is not afraid of the snow for her household:
for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
She maketh herself coverings of tapestry;
her clothing is silk and purple.'
(Proverbs 31:21-22)

'Strength and honour are her clothing;
and she shall rejoice in time to come.
She openeth her mouth with wisdom;
and in her tongue is the law of kindness.'
(Pro 31:25)

No vain show here is there, for the woman who is described as being God-fearing.

My daughter works for a charity that seeks to house the homeless, and help those who through disability and mental illness are in need of life assistance. She has never been clothes conscious, she is clean and tidy and that's all that matters to her: and in this role it is proving to be a good thing; because there is no judgment on her part. So she is able to put her clients at their ease, and they warm to her, sensing that she is not judging them or their situation, but wants to understand and know their needs, so that she can be of assistance.

I fear I do not measure up to the woman of Proverbs, but I do praise God for the standard that she provides.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
'She is not afraid of the snow for her household:
for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
She maketh herself coverings of tapestry;
her clothing is silk and purple.'
(Pro 31:21-22)

Hello again, @Fragrant Grace,

Actually her clothing sounds quite sumptuous doesn't it! This is a woman who has clothed herself and her household by sheer hard work and frugal management, but she doesn't skimp on the detail and fineness of her clothing, or that of her family. As one who is God-fearing ( a believer ) it does not mean that she has to dress meanly, for she is, like ourselves the daughter of a King. It can be reflected without any of the vices attached to extravagance, for it is done to reflect the honour she has towards her husband and her God, and the product of her own frugality and hard work.

May God be praised!

With love in Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Two verses come to mind...

Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.
Colossians 3:12

Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.
1 Peter 1:3-4
 
But if we have food and clothing; we will be content with these; 1 Timothy 6:8.

To be obsessed with smart clothes, and to be known as someone with this obsession, is frankly as shameful as chumming about with harlots, or seducing other men’s wives! What earthly difference does it make to anyone with an ounce of sense, whether he wears a luxurious robe or a cheap workman’s coat, as long as it keeps him warm in winter and cool in summer?

It’s the same principle everywhere else. We mustn’t surround ourselves with more abundance than need requires, not to be so fixated on the body that our soul starves. It’s just as disgusting for a man (if he even deserves the name) to be neurotic about smart clothes and mollycoddling his body, as it is to be infected with any other moral failing. The man who spends half his time trying to render his body gorgeous neither knows himself nor understands that wise precept: “What you can see of a man is not the true man. We need higher wisdom to enable us to recognize ourselves.” But unless we sanctify our minds, this will be as impossible as a dozy-eyed man gazing into the sun.

This sanctification of our souls, generally speaking, and to put it in language anyone can understand, is all about holding cheap the mere pleasures of the senses. So we don’t feast our eyes on the silly shows of performers, not ogle human bodies to excite sensual pleasure. We don’t allow immoral songs to pour in through the ears and drench the soul. Shameful and smutty passions are naturally stirred up by this sort of music. No, we promote a different kind of music, noble itself and leading to what is noble – the sort of music by which David, the poet of the sacred songs, emancipated King Saul from his madness.

Basil of Caesarea (330-79)
Amen. I give thanks to the Lord our God for my mom and dad, both born in the 1920's into hard times, and grew up in even harder times. They taught me so many life lessons, one of which was: Get what you need; want what you have; and, when you think you don't need it anymore, give it away to someone who does. I don't know if the old shoes and sneakers I donate ever make it to someone else's feet, but I'll never throw them in the trash if they look as though they have a few miles left on them. :blush:
 
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What you can see of a man is not the true man. We need higher wisdom to enable us to recognize ourselves.” But unless we sanctify our minds, this will be as impossible as a dozy-eyed man gazing into the sun.

This sanctification of our souls, generally speaking, and to put it in language anyone can understand, is all about holding cheap the mere pleasures of the senses

Yeh, man needs God to recognize their true selves. After that, I think it takes A LOT of discernment to find what is beneficial and will sanctify our minds and what will not. It is a learning process...some have it more then others, but as a believer I am grateful that God provides His Word to gain it better.

"Make your ear attentive to wisdom, Incline your heart to understanding; For if you cry for discernment, Lift your voice for understanding; If you seek her as silver And search for her as for hidden treasures; Then you will discern the fear of the Lord And discover the knowledge of God. For the Lord gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding. He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk in integrity, Guarding the paths of justice, And He preserves the way of His godly ones. Then you will discern righteousness and justice And equity and every good course. For wisdom will enter your heart And knowledge will be pleasant to your soul; Discretion will guard you, Understanding will watch over you, To deliver you from the way of evil, From the man who speaks perverse things; From those who leave the paths of uprightness To walk in the ways of darkness;"
Proverbs 2:2‭-‬13 NASB1995
 
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