DieAmartyr said:

Satan is an Archangel with the power to know everything in our lives ( except for what we confess), able to manifest stuff and tempt us and enter us and speak through us. Can the other Arch Angels do these things to us too? What are their abilities?

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Hello @DieAmartyr,

Only Michael is spoken of in Scripture as 'The Archangel', and he himself would not bring an accusation against Satan, but left that to God. For Satan is a dignity, and it is not for us to speculate, or speak against him (Jude 1:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:16). We must be careful not to fall into the category of those spoken of in 2 Peter 2:9-13, who speak evil of dignities (2 Peter 2:10-11), but submit ourselves to God, Who only has authority in the realm of the spirit.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Bill said:

When you are in warfare, try these things. Using Love and forgiveness.

I use both , the presence of Jesus within the Love and Forgiveness are very potent.

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I amagine they are very powerful. The pulses to me are like a pulse of pure light that cuts through all things dark. Thats not my weapon though, thats the power of the Holy Spirit through me.

Brad Huber said:

I amagine they are very powerful. The pulses to me are like a pulse of pure light that cuts through all things dark. Thats not my weapon though, thats the power of the Holy Spirit through me.

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It is very cool, i can see it in my mind

Mmmm.

PloughBoy said:

Mmmm.

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I can't wait for you to be in heaven with me then we will really have some fun

PloughBoy said:

Mmmm.

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The only limit to your faith is your imagination

Jer 23:16; Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; They speak a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the LORD.

Psa 73:7; Their eye bulges from fatness; The imaginations of their heart run riot.

2Cor 10:5; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Bill said:

You are missing something important my friend. Free will.

God created all with Free will. Even Lucifer chose to claim himself equal with God.

Remember, Lucifier was already in Heaven.

The Lord showed me the Angels before Lucifers pride. They were like children playing.

Michael the Archangel stated, " who is like the Lord" and rallied the Hosts of Heaven against the fallen angels

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1. You are in error! The Bible doesn't not teach such "Heresy" as "Free will", Man does! And I don't believe such foreign doctrine, As Man "Has Freedom of his will" for over 40 years! and can back it up, by the very WORD of The Living GOD! "From Genesis to Revelation"
2. The "Adversary" and Heaven" was "Created' by Jesus the Son of "The Living GOD" who is the Head of "The Triune" "The Tetragrammaton" And what
Jesus Created on the behave of "The Father" is "Temporary"until the work is "FINISH" :
"The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to FUTILITY, not by its own WILL, but
BECAUSE of the One who subjected it, in hope,
that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

Then ALL shall be DONE AWAY and be no more!

3. And you said: The lord showed "YOU" the Angels before Lucifers pride. They were like children Playing. [and your "ALARM" Bells did not start RINGING "5 Alarm FIRE"! DECEPTION< DECEPTION< AN "ANGEL OF LIGHT"
Berean Study Bible
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
American Standard Version
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Now I am being kind, But i can be "Bold as a Lion" concerning this matter. In other places I am know as "The Augustinian Monk".

4. you Stated: "Michael the Archangel stated, " who is like the Lord" and rallied the Hosts of Heaven against the fallen angels"

'But I shall go on beyond the elementary, concerning "Angels". And GOD is GOD and there is no other, but one, that is a done deal, whether you believe in HIM of not. Whether you believe in The Triune or not, it does not change who HE is. He is "Immutable"'

Now Angels is another matter, their purpose have been define by "GOD". And written and reveal in THE WORD of The Living GOD. That all men may see, whether they believe it or not.

'In All Reliable and sound Translations of the Bible, it is Translated in "Indicative form", concerning angels who they are and for what purpose they are created for.
American Standard Version
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to do service for the sake of them that shall inherit salvation?

Berean Study Bible
Are not the angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation? Is that plain enough, and Good english grammar does the english syntax have to be explain.

I ain't No christian, so I don't think like one! And I don't look like one, and I don't talk like one! And I sure don't act like one! But one thing I do know, i am a "child of The Living GOD", And nothing can change that, no matter what another may believe about me, your believeth cannot change my Status! You may discourage me, but it is part of "The Battle". for I am commanded to keep my War clothes on. And He will do the rest.

I like this part:
Romans 8:17
"And if we are children, then we are heirs: heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ--if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified with Him."

Husband, no pain, no gain, Wife, no suffering, no Reign". Count it all JOY!

Now A christian do not talk like that, but a child of GOD, do! Thank you Jesus!

PloughBoy said:

1. You are in error! The Bible doesn't not teach such "Heresy" as "Free will", Man does! And I don't believe such foreign doctrine,

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Actually it does.

Acts 24:25; But as he was discussing righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix became frightened and said, "Go away for the present, and when I find time I will summon you."
1Cor 7:5; Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
1Cor 7:9; But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
1Cor 9:25; Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.
Gal 5:23; gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
2Tim 3:3; unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2Pet 1:6; and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness,

The Bible says we have "self-control". We aren't under the control of God in every decision. Especially decisions about sin.

Jas 1:13; Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.

Do you sin? Does God make you sin? Or is it your choice to sin?

Jos 24:15; "If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."

It's up to you to choose whether you serve God or not. He doesn't force anyone to.

B-A-C said:

Actually it does.

Acts 24:25; But as he was discussing righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix became frightened and said, "Go away for the present, and when I find time I will summon you."
1Cor 7:5; Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
1Cor 7:9; But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
1Cor 9:25; Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.
Gal 5:23; gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
2Tim 3:3; unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2Pet 1:6; and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness,

The Bible says we have "self-control". We aren't under the control of God in every decision. Especially decisions about sin.

Jas 1:13; Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.

Do you sin? Does God make you sin? Or is it your choice to sin?

Jos 24:15; "If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."

It's up to you to choose whether you serve God or not. He doesn't force anyone to.

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In none of those Verses you have listed, teaches that a man a human being has the freedom of his will? You have prove nothing concerning your proclamation. Only thing you have proven, is you lack of comprehension of the "topic" and the text, and the verses you have copied.

My advice is for you to read a copy of "Luthers" Bondage of The Will", hard copy and Jonathan Edwards, "Freedom of the Will" since the Holy Scripture is dark to you in this matter. Maybe the combination of the two will clarify the Scriptures concerning Mankind's Bondage.

Those who think they eat meat, still only eat veggies. That is why scripture warns the meat eaters to not brag about it.

As learned as some are, it is wise not to criticize others, as the others are already eating anything they want.

Like i had said on many occasions, Most Christians and most Institutional churches have move from "semi-Pelagian" to full blown "Pelagian". For one time in our modern day history the church fell into these categories Either Arminianism or Calvinistic, or Semi- Pelagianism or Pelagian, but now from Catholicism clear thoughout the system up into the holy rollering Protestantism, all it would seem have fallen into the Ditch of pure "Pelagianism". Full blown and they don't even know it. Why, because the Bible is True! "a Little Leaven will contaminate the Whole lump". As the Scriptures has "Prophesies".
(2 Tim. 4)CEV
"The time is coming when people [christians] won't listen to good teaching. Instead, they will look for teachers who will please them by telling them only what they are itching to hear. They will turn from the truth and eagerly listen to senseless stories. But you must stay calm and be willing to suffer. You must WORK HARD, Telling the good news and to DO YOUR JOB WELL."

Bill said:

Those who think they eat meat, still only eat veggies. That is why scripture warns the meat eaters to not brag about it.

As learned as some are, it is wise not to criticize others, as the others are already eating anything they want.

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What? What are you talking about?

PloughBoy said:

In none of those Verses you have listed, teaches that a man a human being has the freedom of his will? You have prove nothing concerning your proclamation. Only thing you have proven, is you lack of comprehension of the "topic" and the text, and the verses you have copied.

My advice is for you to read a copy of "Luthers" Bondage of The Will", hard copy and Jonathan Edwards, "Freedom of the Will" since the Holy Scripture is dark to you in this matter. Maybe the combination of the two will clarify the Scriptures concerning Mankind's Bondage.

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My brother, self control is a form of free will. Free will is to control yourself to follow Gods will.

Admon Mikha'el said:

What? What are you talking about?

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Im talking about the warning Paul makes in the scripture, to those who are learned. To be cautious, as pride is very sneeky.

Making claims to be wise , is not being wise

PloughBoy said:

In none of those Verses you have listed, teaches that a man a human being has the freedom of his will? You have prove nothing concerning your proclamation. Only thing you have proven, is you lack of comprehension of the "topic" and the text, and the verses you have copied.

My advice is for you to read a copy of "Luthers" Bondage of The Will", hard copy and Jonathan Edwards, "Freedom of the Will" since the Holy Scripture is dark to you in this matter. Maybe the combination of the two will clarify the Scriptures concerning Mankind's Bondage.

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Like i said brother, i cant wait for us to be in heaven together.. then we will find out how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin. Lol

Getting back to the Question. Do Arch Angels have the same powers.

From all i have experienced with Angels. There are different Choirs, as they are called. There are 9 choirs i know of. The first 2 being Guardians, those i work with in spiritual warfare are called Powers, Dominian and Cherubim. There are Arch Angels in every choir.

As far as having different power. I would think of it as having different authority.

The strongest angels are the Seraphim and they are constantly in God's presence.

Feel free to ask questions, and i will answer as best as i can

Bill said:

Those who think they eat meat, still only eat veggies. That is why scripture warns the meat eaters to not brag about it.

As learned as some are, it is wise not to criticize others, as the others are already eating anything they want.

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Well if you are referring to me. I like Milk, and beans more than i like meat. for meat would be the last thing i might put of my plate! My parents would tell it was not hard feeding their two boys growing up, when they would ask us what we wanted to eat, Beans!!! Pinto, Red Beans, Lima beans, Navy beans, Northern Beans, Black eye peas, Kidney beans, 7 days a week, 365.24 days a year. My mother would cook a "Roast", she would have to whip us to eat that meat. We wanted Beans and Corn Bread! And I still cook them. and drink t that Milk! We drunk Milk like water! I got hit by a car three times knock out teeth tore flesh up, played football, Full contact Karate, Judo and Jujitsu, never broke a bone! Strong as a bull, Sired 6 kids, 3 boys, 3 girls, strong strapping boys. LOL.
And when i read this in the Bible, I believe it!

English Standard Version
Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation—
Berean Study Bible
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,

Have you every watch a baby suck on milk! that Baby be so happy, his legs start pumping! LOL

In my "spiritual growth" I left the Meat for y'all! Meaning it was more Milk for Me!

And when the time came, GOD, by Jesus put the meat in my mouth! I had no choice but to eat, when my time had come.

Bill said:

My brother, self control is a form of free will. Free will is to control yourself to follow Gods will.

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You said:
"My brother, self control is a form of free will. Free will is to control yourself to follow Gods will."

That is some "homespun" doctrine you have drum up! Like you have done a dissertation concerning the matter, like in the story "Pilgrim Process" go sit down in the corner with "Pliable".

PloughBoy said:

You said:
"My brother, self control is a form of free will. Free will is to control yourself to follow Gods will."

That is some "homespun" doctrine you have drum up! Like you have done a dissertation concerning the matter, like in the story "Pilgrim Process" go sit down in the corner with "Pliable".

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You are being silly now. Lol .

Maybe the Lord will let us walk in eachothers shoes for a while. Then i will get the head knowledge and you will experience the spiritual that can not be explained.

Let us remember, before jumping to conclusions. Not all that Jesus did or said was written down in scripture.

Our walks are different, but come to the same place in the end. Praise Jesus always