Brightfame52 said:

1 Cor 15:3-4

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

If Christ died for our sins, for He didn't die for everyone's sins, but if we're blessed to be of those He did die for, namely His Sheep or Church, then one thing is for certain, our sins cannot and will not be charged to us.

Rom 4:8

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 1

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That may be so, but you are still responsible to make it right with God... Repent, Follow the three step plan.....Admit it, quit it, and forget it.

Those Christ died for their sins will not be charged to them, not one of them even unbeiief. All for whom He died there's a promise that God will be merciful to all their unrighteousness Heb 8:12


For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

That covers it! This is through Jesus the mediator of the New Covenant in His Blood. Heb 8:6

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Matt 26:28

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 18

Admon Mikha'el said:

That may be so, but you are still responsible to make it right with God... Repent, Follow the three step plan.....Admit it, quit it, and forget it.

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In my Faith, Christ was made responsible to put His People right with God. And to them no sin is charged.

Brightfame52 said:

1 Cor 15:3-4

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

If Christ died for our sins, for He didn't die for everyone's sins, but if we're blessed to be of those He did die for, namely His Sheep or Church, then one thing is for certain, our sins cannot and will not be charged to us.

Rom 4:8

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 1

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Galatians 6:7-8
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Heb 10:26; For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

Luke 13:3; "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

1Jn 3:6; No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.

Dave M said:

Galatians 6:7-8
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

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And your point ? Mine is clear.

Brightfame52 said:

And your point ? Mine is clear.

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my point is you make it sound like a free pass to sin with no price to pay, was that your intent

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

You cannot have a personal relationship with Jesus, have your PREVIOUS sins forgiven, then go off to Las Vegas, take a line of cocaine, watch some strippers, spend all night gambling, then return to church Sunday morning expecting Jesus to accept you, he wont. repent,

If you do not understand this portion of the"Holy Scripture", please pray to God the Father to reveal it to you, through Jesus Christ"
And if anyone hears My sayings, and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48“He who rejects Me, and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49“For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me commandment, what to say, and what to speak. 50“And I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me.”

The Word of GOD, will torment your very soul, "if you are living and comitting "Adultery" right now or have in the past, and not really been forgiven, because you have acted not in true repentance. And you are not bother by your past sin. When you die, your soul will be in torment by the very "Word of God" that is written and you ignored it, when it warn you, And you rebelled against it. Now it will torrment your soul throughout eternity. And you will not escape its presence.

Just because jesus will not judge you, Does not mean "The Word of God" will not judge you. "Put not the LORD you God to the test"

And one thing for sure, God did make sure a lot of us, took up "Grammer" classes, in "Elementary". "Me no understand" ain't going to work with God. You can try, "But that dog won't hunt"!

Why do some christians think in christ , they have a "license" to sin and there is no penalty, for commiting known and unknown sins. "Antinomianism" is not a christian's virtue or get out of punishment card. Our personal sins, harms a lot of people even destroys some. By our actions and practices. Not only when a person commits adultery it harms and sometimes destroys a whole town, villages, and even a few family generations , by our selfish acts. And we call ouselves mature children of God. Maturity, Godly Love, seeks not to please ourselves, but chooses that which is the right thing to do, relating to the "Word of God" and deying our own selves. And seeking not our own, so called happiness. And we do not try to please ourselves, or seek revenge of the wrong that has been done us. And many call them selves " christ like". And the 1st. Thing They do when someone has done them wrong, they seek a pathway to divorce with a justification clause.

So have you judge, the same measurement shall be measure unto you! You who judge another, have judge your ownself! You divorce with justification, You also will be "Divorce with justitication"! They who shows no mercy, will also, receive no mercy.

For he shall have judgment without mercy, that has showed no mercy; and mercy rejoices against judgment.

Brightfame52 said:

Those Christ died for their sins will not be charged to them, not one of them even unbeiief

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Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

John 3:18-19
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

No, he died for everyone's sin , so all could have the opportunity for salvation; but he forgives and saves only those who believe in him!

And do they "believe this"?

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I'll let Jesus decide who believes and who doesn't! For me, I believe and I know God knows this!

Born Again 2004 said:

No, he died for everyone's sin , so all could have the opportunity for salvation; but he forgives and saves only those who believe in him!

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That is something you "believe". Knowing and believing are two different things, two different words, two different meanings. A statement of knowing and a statement of believing syntax are totally different, i would think.

Like i know i am a male. Is different, if i say, i believe i am a male. If i say, i believe i am a male, leaves room for the possibility i might be a female. But if i say, i am a male, no room for the possibility that I might be a female. By my statement of knowing.

Now, i dis agree with you, you said he die for everyones sins. I say he didn't die for everyones sins, and the "Holy Scriptures" proclaims this truth. I did not say; i believe the Bible procliams this truth. I said "The Holy Scriptures" proclaims this truth. "He did not die for everyones sins". Notice my very words i have written, in "english syntax".

Ok, sure, then we agree to disagree!...no SYNTAX determination required!

God will not impute the sin of unbelief to those Christ died for,since it along with all their sins, has been already imputed to Christ, so He will have mercy on their unbelief Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

If God was to condemn one Christ died for for their unbelief, then He denied them mercy !

But nevertheless this verse attests to the mercy God promises under the New Covenant which Christ is Mediator Heb 8:12

Heb 8:12


12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 20

Dave M said:

my point is you make it sound like a free pass to sin with no price to pay, was that your intent

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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Christ paid the price, thats why sin isnt charged to them He died for. You arent paying attention to what Im posting.

"To those who Christ died for"! He has the capacity to forgive every one's sin, but he only saves those who believe, which He died for.