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Of couse i'm "in the world", we are ALL "in the world", the important thing is as Christians how we behave "in the world", you cannot separate yourself from the world and the events taking place within it because you are inextricably linked to those events, the people you vote for, the products you buy, the lifestyle you follow ALL have implications on the World and those living in it,........ Christ taught us how we should act "in the World", the "Sermon on the Mount" is the "Blueprint for a Christian life", so if you have ears , then open them to Christs word and understand that he calls on his followers to be a part of this world and to live in it with Justice, Compassion and Mercy in their Hearts..
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Actually you are wrong in your hypothesis. Jesus doesn't call us to be part of this world, Jesus calls us to come out of this world and to be better than what the world offers.

If we only did what the world offers, then we ourselves would be involved with murder fraud and all sorts of crazy things. But we strive to be better than that, and we try to help others to see that life can be better than what the world offers.

Certainly Jesus tells us to give unto Caesar what is Caesar's. But we are to give to God what is God's.
 
Of course it upsets me, as i believe it should upset ALL those that profess to follow Christ, do you believe in Christs eyes there are "illegal" immigrants, do you believe that man made distinctions are applicable in determining whether or not we should "Love our Neighbour" as ourselves, or "treat others as we'd want to be treated", in Matthew 25 "the Sheep and the goats", Christ talks of the "stranger" and of seeing him in those seeking refuge in other countries, just how many "Christs" do you think have been forcibly detained, beaten, and sometimes killed in the process of expelling those we consider "illegal" or "undesirable", ...... and yes i do find the "process" objectionable, both in the US and here in the UK, although atm US policy is far more violent and brutal than anything here in the UK, but that could change, dont you find it upsetting seeing masked and armed men breaking into houses, churches, places of work and dragging helpless victims into vans, of random shootings and open brutality being practised on the streets of America, doesnt that upset you too? ..... and just because i oppose the policies of Trump doesnt make me pro Obama, or Biden, or Bush, or whoever, i refuse to tie my life , my soul to any particular political movement because theyre ALL corrupt, all driven by self interest, ALL immersed in A lust for power and control,....... i'm against ALL forms of injustice and oppression in this Evil world whoever perpetrates it, and as a Christian shouldnt you be too?.

With the Love of Christ Jesus

Steve

There are six undocumented immigrants from the Congo living near me who need ongoing support and housing. Would you be willing to sponsor and house them if I arranged for them to come to you? Please answer yes or no. If not all, could you accommodate one or two?

Many liberal elites that control leftist media express concern for immigrants, but none are willing to open their own homes. Fact!!!

I am willing to help within reason, as any compassionate Christian would. The challenge is dealing with home invasion over doing charity work.

The illegals in the US were offered money, free flight and assistance to leave and relocate back to their country of origin. If you did not take that option you are a home invader. Not a case for charity.

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You are selective with scriptural history and facts.

Do you know that when God gave the promised land to the Jews they were told to share it with nobody else? Why do you think that was the case?

God told them to A. love your neighbour Lev 19:18 and at the same time, B. not to share their land with anyone Deut 7:1-6

Deut 7:1-6 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you 2. and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3; Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4; for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5;This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles and burn their idols in the fire. 6; For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.

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Conclusion:

An illegal immigrant is not a neighbour, not a refugee, they are a home invader.
 
We ALL believe what we want to believe, that is the nature of humanity, even when our beliefs are clearly wrong we still cling to them as evidenced by the number of Germans who even after living through the horrors of Nazism still clung to its core values,

No no. no! They did NOT cling to its core values! Are you nuts?

When Germans did evils to the Jews, (torture and mass murder) they knew what they were doing was wrong and evil. After a while they seared their conscience. They became desensitized.

Searing ones conscience is also not the same as wilful ignorance. The populace at large may have been wilfully ignorant, but those perpetrating the evils were not. You cannot torture someone, hear them cry and scream in pain, and be wilfully ignorant.

Their core evils were NOT racism and insulting someone's feelings. It was torture and murder!! They would give Jews in concentration camps a singe potato a week if they wanted them to live.

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Jews were good, God fearing people who were living legally in the country and contributed to the wealth and civility of the nation.

To mention 'Nazism' in the same sentence as what is happening now in the US shows extreme ignorance!
 
Government

When we talk about things, God does want us to be honest about things, and to be wise in the way we do things.

The bible says this:

Rom 13:1-4
(1) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
(2) Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
(3) For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
(4) For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Governments are suppose to be not a terror to good works, but sometimes they are.

Governments are suppose to apply things via God's ways, now we still obey up to a certain degree, but is there room for civil disobedience ?

Well in some cases yes, and in some cases you should.

Examples:

Act 5:26-29
(26) Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.
(27) And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
(28) Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
(29) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

And of course Daniel did not obey the government decree to not pray.

And when it is against God's word we do not obey, otherwise of course.

Everything within reason.

Cause the bible says this:

Mic 6:8
(8) He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

And of course the bible also says to render to God what is God's and to Caesar what is Caesar's.

Now we have to be careful in our conduct, but in saying this, did Jesus ever call a government leader a name ?

Yes.

Luk 13:31-32
(31) The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee.
(32) And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

And another scripture to think about, is this:

Hos 8:3-4
(3) Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him.
(4) They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

So if God's word says that some kings are not set up by him, then we must rethink in what way he means that they are put in place.

Some are really not set up by God, but still serve a purpose even according to God's judgments, and purposes.
 

N they just keep coming
It blows my mind how someone who is from a country like this have the audacity to put their two sense in what the American president should or should not do for The American people..
Perhaps fix the country your in before ya worry about what others are doing to fix theirs..

FYI

The zone for mosque center in Broken Arrow Oklahoma has been terminated!

Whoop Whoop..

I have a video of a meeting of Muslims men talking about how he married a 7 yr old and raped her at nine.. n people wanna try n force our country to put if with it or be called names..
Shoot call me names..

I feel as tho we are dealing with a bunch of people from Ninevah lol

They can not tell the left from their right..
Smh..

Rant over .

Have a good day y'all!!
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Whats this obsession you have with "Muslim Rape gangs", of course i've spoken out about this, as ive spoken out about the cuts in UK Aid which will lead to the deaths of Millions over the coming years , as i spoke out about the UK's support of Israel during the Gaza genocide and their continuing supply of weapons to the Israeli military, i've protested the Governments repeal of Environmental laws and its failure to fulfill any of its animal welfare obligations, "Muslim Rape Gangs" is just one case of injustice and oppression that manifest itself in this Evil world, and when i come across them i try to act. You really need to break free of your one track mind and open your eyes to just whats going on in Gods world and not just a small part of it.
 
No no. no! They did NOT cling to its core values! Are you nuts?

When Germans did evils to the Jews, (torture and mass murder) they knew what they were doing was wrong and evil. After a while they seared their conscience. They became desensitized.

Searing ones conscience is also not the same as wilful ignorance. The populace at large may have been wilfully ignorant, but those perpetrating the evils were not. You cannot torture someone, hear them cry and scream in pain, and be wilfully ignorant.

Their core evils were NOT racism and insulting someone's feelings. It was torture and murder!! They would give Jews in concentration camps a singe potato a week if they wanted them to live.

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Jews were good, God fearing people who were living legally in the country and contributed to the wealth and civility of the nation.

To mention 'Nazism' in the same sentence as what is happening now in the US shows extreme ignorance!
Yes they did, after the war there had to be "de-Nazification" programmes set in place , but despite that many former Nazis retained positions of power in the new German Government and their belief in the values of Nazism. Have you listened to or read the reports of how the Concentration camp and death camp guards viewed their work, racism, anti semitism and the superiority of the Germanic people was, like now, a central core of their belief system Some indeed were just sadistic, they enjoyed what they were doing, some believed passionately in the "righteousness" of their actions but most regarded it as a task that had to be done to protect Germany from the evils of Judaism and if they could profit from it personally then so much the better. You really have to understand the capacity for ordinary people to commit acts of extraordinary evil, to understand the seeds of Evil that lie dormant within all of us and how it only takes the right conditions for those seeds to grow and flourish.
 
I didn't say you were pro this or that. The point was your outcry during those times was missing and still is! Anyone being objective would see that as biased, and it should be taken into account when evaluating your motivations, in addition to the intrinsic ones you now claim drive you against President Trump.

Oh, stop using trigger words, like victims, when they broke the law of the land, which makes them what??? Come on, you can say it, because I won't say it for you! The UK and every other country out there, even Vatican City, doesn't allow anyone to just waltz across their borders, but somehow the US should? Because this is the land of plenty? Allowing the hard working people to subsidize the non-workers which is what is happening!

You don't know the geo-political nature of why Democrats want this influx of illegals, and yes they are illegals, to come into the US. They also have shipped them to certain areas of the country as well. Since you know so much about the US political scene, do you know why they are doing this? If you say out of the goodness of their hearts, or that you don't care why, then more work on removing that little something from your eye is necessary, because your actions will create the opposite of what you think will happen, as you can see in the streets, neighborhoods throughout the US! You think Jesus wants that? I don't think so.

With the Love of Christ Jesus, brother Steve.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Do you think Christ views these people, many of whom are seeking a better life in the US, or for that matter, a better life in any of the rich countries of this world, who are trying to escape the poverty, violence and suffering that infests their own countries, do you think Christ views them as "illegal", and do you think Christ blesses the actions of those Border protection agencies who try to keep them out and who round up and deport them back to their lives of Poverty and suffering?. whose side do you think Christ is on, the suffering and oppressed or the comparatively Rich and comfortable,?

With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick
 
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

One could argue the point on the other side of the coin, do you see the eyes of Jesus in the ice agents, or in the president or in members of Congress or in all of the other stations of life?

Jesus could have healed everyone in Israel, but he only chose a select few why do you think that is?

Just like Jesus said thousands he could have healed thousands too. He was in a crowd of people and one lady that healed.

Do you think that God is a god of sadism, that he likes to inflict pain on others? God allows us to have free will, and it is our choices that cause the inhumanity to mankind. We have to choose, but we also have to live our lives in our country. It certainly is a balancing act so to speak. To be able to weigh the just Cause of removing illegal aliens, and still have compassion towards others.
Thats a tough one, do i see Christ in the eyes of the oppressor, well i try, but it aint easy, but as MLK said " hate will not be driven out by Hate but by Love", and if we dont see Christ in the eyes of the oppressor and the perpetrator of Evil then how are we ever gonna love them?, recognising the Evil thats within ourselves helps, helps to put things into perspective, but yes, loving the oppressor is hard and one of the many trials being a Christian in a world of Hatred and Suffering entails.
 
Whats this obsession you have with "Muslim Rape gangs", of course i've spoken out about this, as ive spoken out about the cuts in UK Aid which will lead to the deaths of Millions over the coming years , as i spoke out about the UK's support of Israel during the Gaza genocide and their continuing supply of weapons to the Israeli military, i've protested the Governments repeal of Environmental laws and its failure to fulfill any of its animal welfare obligations, "Muslim Rape Gangs" is just one case of injustice and oppression that manifest itself in this Evil world, and when i come across them i try to act. You really need to break free of your one track mind and open your eyes to just whats going on in Gods world and not just a small part of it.
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Cuts in UK aid have nothing to do with people dying. The cause of people dying come from people themselves who wish to confront everyone else because they are not getting their "fair share". Somehow people must feel that the government is there to support their every need, when that's not true at all. People need to work, they need to earn their income. If they can't find work then go somewhere where they can find work.

All you have to do is look at the example of the immigrants that came from Europe to America. They came out a war-torn World War I and World War II to looking for something better. And they adapted themselves to the country that they moved to, The United States of America.

And guess what they came legally too. They all became citizens of the United States and learn the language of the United States while keeping their own languages as well. Go to New York City or a majority of immigrants move to.

As for Gaza and the so-called genocide. The citizens of Gaza are no greater than the citizens of Mexico. In both cases they lay down and let terrorists and cartels walk all over them without a fight. If the citizens would stand up for themselves they wouldn't have these issues..

Certainly there is fault in both the Muslim and Israeli communities. Probably the biggest fault that they both have is this whole business about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I really don't care that they have these ways of thinking because they're both going to get it, a spanking so to speak from God.

The Israelis are not following The laws of Moses Period The simplest one which is The Forgiveness of others Every seven years Period The Forgiveness of debt And that debt includes those that you have issues with. To make peace with them.

The Muslims on the other hand Teach in their schools To hate the Israelites Period this has gone on for many years Period The Muslims themselves Comma the everyday people Do not hate The Israelites But this is all propagated By the leaders of the Muslim communities . It's much like the liberal left who propagate hatred for everything America.
 
Thats a tough one, do i see Christ in the eyes of the oppressor, well i try, but it aint easy, but as MLK said " hate will not be driven out by Hate but by Love", and if we dont see Christ in the eyes of the oppressor and the perpetrator of Evil then how are we ever gonna love them?, recognising the Evil thats within ourselves helps, helps to put things into perspective, but yes, loving the oppressor is hard and one of the many trials being a Christian in a world of Hatred and Suffering entails.
May Jesus teach us love and wisdom.

Jesus said, love your neighbor as yourself. It is the second greatest commandment that Jesus told us.

This includes, loving those who hate you whether they deserve it or not. If you cannot let go of your hate, you'll never learn to love.
 
Do you think Christ views these people, many of whom are seeking a better life in the US, or for that matter, a better life in any of the rich countries of this world, who are trying to escape the poverty, violence and suffering that infests their own countries, do you think Christ views them as "illegal", and do you think Christ blesses the actions of those Border protection agencies who try to keep them out and who round up and deport them back to their lives of Poverty and suffering?. whose side do you think Christ is on, the suffering and oppressed or the comparatively Rich and comfortable,?

With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick
I believe Christ views them no better or worse than anyone else. Where your think treasure is, there your heart will be also.

What I do not think you understand, is that those who cross the borders illegally, regardless of country, have no allegiance to that country, but only to the one they left. It is not like they can't come to the US or any other country for that matter legally. There is a process for it, for which they will swear to follow the laws, and allegiance to the country as well as integrate into it, should they become citizens, but following the laws is a must. However, those who come across illegally, don't care that they are jumping to the front of line of others who are doing it legally, who do swear and pledge allegiance to the country. Making it theirs! Why do you think that so many legal citizens that have done it the right way, are upset with the illegals? You may not realize this because it's not something the MSM publicizes, but it's true. For it creates problems for them, where none existed before. I know for my own parents were immigrants not so long ago, but they did it legally. I'm 1st generation American, and not oblivious to the plights of others. Oh, and my parents were not rich either!

Trying to escape poverty, violence and suffering that infests their own countries, can be said of any country brother! There are places in the US that you won't believe that exists, that has the very same conditions that you have named. No country is exempt from this. I'm sure even the UK has its places that would not be far removed from 3rd world countries! However, if you notice that the countries that many travel through to get to the US are better than the countries they are leaving, why don't they stay there? It's like everyone thinks that the US is some kind of Utopia, which it is not.

Do, it orderly, and you will be surprised how welcoming the Americans are but do it illegally at the expense of others who are trying to do it the right way, and the reaction of Americans will be the opposite of welcoming! This is a country of laws, without which no country could sustain order. What you would have then is utter chaos, and the negative conditions that you have spoken of will be multiplied! Then when it goes that route, guess what? Those illegals will up and leave to go to another place/country!

They have no allegiance to this country, and won't try to help fix it, like they haven't done in the country they have left! Every country that has had a modicum of success, has suffered through trials, but the people are the ones who have stood up, and defied the evil that exists therein. When good people leave these places, instead of making the sacrifices necessary to make change happen, then you are allowing evil to win. God will help you, but you need to take that first step, and fleeing is not the step that needs to be made, but standing up, and if necessary, dying for that change, that those who follow may benefit from the fruits of your sacrifice.

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother.
Nick
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Whats this obsession you have with "Muslim Rape gangs", of course i've spoken out about this, as ive spoken out about the cuts in UK Aid which will lead to the deaths of Millions over the coming years , as i spoke out about the UK's support of Israel during the Gaza genocide and their continuing supply of weapons to the Israeli military, i've protested the Governments repeal of Environmental laws and its failure to fulfill any of its animal welfare obligations, "Muslim Rape Gangs" is just one case of injustice and oppression that manifest itself in this Evil world, and when i come across them i try to act. You really need to break free of your one track mind and open your eyes to just whats going on in Gods world and not just a small part of it.
Ahh there it is I new them fruits of your's would show sooner or later.
What's your obsession with chaos?.you see Muslim as just flesh?? Just like a Christian just as flesh? A murderer just tu flesh? A rapist just the flesh? Your believe in allowing chaos rape murder pillage n plumage on people who follow the ways of the Land they live in.yiu think that The Living God whole creation is to make you feel good not do what is right under His guidance your are as Saul you wanna do what you want n need to follow the ways of the Lord..
You keep following that evil entity..I know Who and what I worship apparently you do not or perhaps you do n your just a imp trying to do what you been created for.. personally idk personally IDC because personally I know what is here been watching it grow for years n you your just part of its mouth piece just like dealers on the street got their watch outs yell bumba to warn the wicked that Rightoues is coming so to say..
Don't forget what happened to Saul in Samuel perhaps ya need to take counsel with the Lord instead of vomiting words that are against the Lord Himself..

Why do the nation's rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

To be honest n blunt I see you as swine

You trample pearls n take no heed only one can save you

Hope all is well..

U⁠ ⁠´⁠꓃⁠ ⁠`⁠ ⁠U




Your just for evil Truth be told
 
Yes they did, after the war there had to be "de-Nazification" programmes set in place , but despite that many former Nazis retained positions of power in the new German Government and their belief in the values of Nazism. Have you listened to or read the reports of how the Concentration camp and death camp guards viewed their work, racism, anti semitism and the superiority of the Germanic people was, like now, a central core of their belief system Some indeed were just sadistic, they enjoyed what they were doing, some believed passionately in the "righteousness" of their actions but most regarded it as a task that had to be done to protect Germany from the evils of Judaism and if they could profit from it personally then so much the better. You really have to understand the capacity for ordinary people to commit acts of extraordinary evil, to understand the seeds of Evil that lie dormant within all of us and how it only takes the right conditions for those seeds to grow and flourish.

You are missing my point. You are not grasping the difference between having and agreeing with racist thoughts over torture and murder.

I will give you the same example Jesus gave us in Matt 5.

In Matt 5:28 Jesus says that anyone who thinks immorally of another has committed adultery. In Matt 5:32 He says that we must not divorce unless their is actual adultery. In Lev 20:10 God ordained that adulterers be put to death. Not those guilty of merely thinking about adultery, but those who actually do it.

There is a world of difference between a racist not guilty of murder and a racist guilty of murder. Now the greatest form of sin is to torture someone. This fact taints Nazism. So if you quote them you need to be specific on what exactly you are referencing. Their racism only, or the actions of a few that were racist and tortured.

We have all been guilty of having racist thoughts, if you say you have not, you are a liar. I would bet on you being racist in some form or another right now. It is called venial sin. We all battle with it.

You argument is a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Referencing the Nazis to any form of protesting when they have blood of 20 million and many torturous events on their hands is a literal, and I mean literal braindead comparison.

Even as some do to compare what Nazis did to what is happening in Iran, is a braindead comparison.

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There is a simple experiment you can do in your house that will make my point clearer.

Get a candle and try this:

1. Think about putting your hand right above the fire.
2. Put your hand right above the fire until you feel pain and then remove it.
3. Keep your hand above the fire for a few minutes.

Once done, let me know f you still believe 1, 2 and 3 are the same thing.
 
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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Cuts in UK aid have nothing to do with people dying. The cause of people dying come from people themselves who wish to confront everyone else because they are not getting their "fair share". Somehow people must feel that the government is there to support their every need, when that's not true at all. People need to work, they need to earn their income. If they can't find work then go somewhere where they can find work.

All you have to do is look at the example of the immigrants that came from Europe to America. They came out a war-torn World War I and World War II to looking for something better. And they adapted themselves to the country that they moved to, The United States of America.

And guess what they came legally too. They all became citizens of the United States and learn the language of the United States while keeping their own languages as well. Go to New York City or a majority of immigrants move to.

As for Gaza and the so-called genocide. The citizens of Gaza are no greater than the citizens of Mexico. In both cases they lay down and let terrorists and cartels walk all over them without a fight. If the citizens would stand up for themselves they wouldn't have these issues..

Certainly there is fault in both the Muslim and Israeli communities. Probably the biggest fault that they both have is this whole business about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I really don't care that they have these ways of thinking because they're both going to get it, a spanking so to speak from God.

The Israelis are not following The laws of Moses Period The simplest one which is The Forgiveness of others Every seven years Period The Forgiveness of debt And that debt includes those that you have issues with. To make peace with them.

The Muslims on the other hand Teach in their schools To hate the Israelites Period this has gone on for many years Period The Muslims themselves Comma the everyday people Do not hate The Israelites But this is all propagated By the leaders of the Muslim communities . It's much like the liberal left who propagate hatred for everything America.
Cuts in Aid have everything to do with people dying and i wish i could take you, your family and anyone else that feels the way you do and put you in a country like Sudan, Somalia,, Ethiopia, the slums of Nairobi, the Sweatshops of Dhakka or a thousand and one other places in this world where theres little or no food, dirty drinking water, slum housing if theres housing at all, little or no education for your children inadequate or non existent medical services and little or no sanitation,, to work 10-12 hours a day, backbreaking work for a couple of dollars, and no social security, no unemployment pay, if you cant work through sickness or old age and have no family support then you die, its as simple as that, and without the lifeline of Emergency food distribution, the provision of clean water and medical facilities, the improvement of agricultural techniques that Aid provides then the situation will just continue or get worse. Aid agencies estimate that up to 14 million men, women and children in the poorest countries will die over the coming years due to US Aid cuts, and millions more will die as a result of UK aid cuts, if you support a Government thats implementing those policies then their deaths are in part on your hands, and you, as will us all, will have to account to God for your actions,........ and why do you think there is such mass migration from these countries, racked by poverty, war, violence, Climate change and the consequent droughts and floods which are having such an impact on their ability to grow their own food, like the first immigrants to the US, they seek a better life, and if youre talking of "illegal" immigrants, i wonder what the indigenous inhabitants of America, the Indians, thought of these new arrivals and the impact they'd have on their lives, in Matthew 25 vs 35 Christ talks of the "stranger" and says, "when i was a stranger you took me in", no mention of legality or otherwise, just someone in need, like the hungry, and the sick, and the thirsty ,the imprisoned, all in need, and ALL deserving of our help, whether they be living next door, in the next city, the next country or a thousand miles away, if we can help then we should do, in fact as Christians we have a duty to help,........ and it isnt a "so called Genocide", according to genocide scholars, the UN and many other Organisations including Israeli human Rights Organisations it is a Genocide, how else could you describe bombing schools, bombing hospitals, implementing starvation, demolishing every building in site, destroying places of worship and cultural buildings, Israeli ministers spoke of and incited Genocide against the Palestinians, and its an abomination that Governments in the west continued to trade with and supply weapons to the State of Israel while such atrocities were taking place, and i think that anyone that supported or committed these actions that led to genocide are going to get far more than a "spanking from God", but thats for God to decide, not me,..... yes there is so much hatred , so many different "players" in the situation, so much power politics on display, its hard to see a resolution, but we must try all we can to brings Gods Love, Compassion and Justice to the situation, for without Justice there can be no True Peace.
 
Cuts in Aid have everything to do with people dying and i wish i could take you, your family and anyone else that feels the way you do and put you in a country like Sudan, Somalia,, Ethiopia, the slums of Nairobi, the Sweatshops of Dhakka or a thousand and one other places in this world where theres little or no food, dirty drinking water, slum housing if theres housing at all, little or no education for your children inadequate or non existent medical services and little or no sanitation,, to work 10-12 hours a day, backbreaking work for a couple of dollars, and no social security, no unemployment pay, if you cant work through sickness or old age and have no family support then you die, its as simple as that, and without the lifeline of Emergency food distribution, the provision of clean water and medical facilities, the improvement of agricultural techniques that Aid provides then the situation will just continue or get worse. Aid agencies estimate that up to 14 million men, women and children in the poorest countries will die over the coming years due to US Aid cuts, and millions more will die as a result of UK aid cuts, if you support a Government thats implementing those policies then their deaths are in part on your hands, and you, as will us all, will have to account to God for your actions,........ and why do you think there is such mass migration from these countries, racked by poverty, war, violence, Climate change and the consequent droughts and floods which are having such an impact on their ability to grow their own food, like the first immigrants to the US, they seek a better life, and if youre talking of "illegal" immigrants, i wonder what the indigenous inhabitants of America, the Indians, thought of these new arrivals and the impact they'd have on their lives, in Matthew 25 vs 35 Christ talks of the "stranger" and says, "when i was a stranger you took me in", no mention of legality or otherwise, just someone in need, like the hungry, and the sick, and the thirsty ,the imprisoned, all in need, and ALL deserving of our help, whether they be living next door, in the next city, the next country or a thousand miles away, if we can help then we should do, in fact as Christians we have a duty to help,........ and it isnt a "so called Genocide", according to genocide scholars, the UN and many other Organisations including Israeli human Rights Organisations it is a Genocide, how else could you describe bombing schools, bombing hospitals, implementing starvation, demolishing every building in site, destroying places of worship and cultural buildings, Israeli ministers spoke of and incited Genocide against the Palestinians, and its an abomination that Governments in the west continued to trade with and supply weapons to the State of Israel while such atrocities were taking place, and i think that anyone that supported or committed these actions that led to genocide are going to get far more than a "spanking from God", but thats for God to decide, not me,..... yes there is so much hatred , so many different "players" in the situation, so much power politics on display, its hard to see a resolution, but we must try all we can to brings Gods Love, Compassion and Justice to the situation, for without Justice there can be no True Peace.
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

It is not our country, the USA that has caused these issues that you're talking about in all of those other countries around the world.

"a country like Sudan, Somalia,, Ethiopia, the slums of Nairobi, the Sweatshops of Dhakka or a thousand and one other places in this world where theres little or no food, dirty"

We can go back in history just 20 or 30 years ago when they had Live Aid around the world. Numerous people made millions of dollars of contributions to all of these countries. We found out later after giving millions and maybe billions of dollars to these countries that virtually none of it went to the people but was all pocketed by the governments. And it wasn't the government of the USA it was the government of Sudan Somalia Ethiopia, Nairobi all of them. All of them took all of the money for themselves in those governments. That's why people don't donate too much anymore. It's because we don't trust those governments.

Anyways money really isn't the issue, you can give a poor person money to live on and guess what they'll stay poor. But you go there and you teach that person how to build a house and how to fish and take care of themselves and they won't be poor anymore.

If you keep a person in poverty by just handing them out money where they don't have to work with no incentive to work. Those people that have no incentive to work will never expect to work they will expect you to end the money they will expect you to feed them they will expect you to take care of them.

I spent 10 years doing volunteer work in the Appalachia mountains. I learned pretty quickly that if you just go there and you give they don't care people don't care. If you give to them everything then they will expect you to give to them next time too. But if you teach people to do things to take care of themselves then they learn to appreciate what they get it's a whole other ball game.

Teaching people to take care of themselves how to plant crops, how to irrigate the land, how to live off the land. This is what should be done. But their governments are more interested in the free handouts from the world
 
@Rad
This is what happens when you support the world’s way of showing displeasure against objectionable governments or conditions. Such protesting is not Christ-centered or Biblically grounded, and it’s ungodly behavior that only makes matters worse without fixing anything.


You can have all the good intentions, and I'm sure you do not condone this behavior, but that's the whole point. If you start a protest that isn’t centered on Christ, then it becomes something entirely different and not of God, no matter how much you view the cause as righteous. It simply isn’t.

By the way, the bearded protester is a known agitator who even showed up at the Vice President’s Catholic church to stage a protest. He’s an ungodly man who doesn’t really care about the issues, only about spreading chaos, yet thousands of people follow his lead and do the same. :(

Pray, and pray some more. Turn it over to the Throne of Mercy & Grace. Walk Boldly, and present you case to the One who actually has the power to make change happen!

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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You are missing my point. You are not grasping the difference between having and agreeing with racist thoughts over torture and murder.

I will give you the same example Jesus gave us in Matt 5.

In Matt 5:28 Jesus says that anyone who thinks immorally of another has committed adultery. In Matt 5:32 He says that we must not divorce unless their is actual adultery. In Lev 20:10 God ordained that adulterers be put to death. Not those guilty of merely thinking about adultery, but those who actually do it.

There is a world of difference between a racist not guilty of murder and a racist guilty of murder. Now the greatest form of sin is to torture someone. This fact taints Nazism. So if you quote them you need to be specific on what exactly you are referencing. Their racism only, or the actions of a few that were racist and tortured.

We have all been guilty of having racist thoughts, if you say you have not, you are a liar. I would bet on you being racist in some form or another right now. It is called venial sin. We all battle with it.

You argument is a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Referencing the Nazis to any form of protesting when they have blood of 20 million and many torturous events on their hands is a literal, and I mean literal braindead comparison.

Even as some do to compare what Nazis did to what is happening in Iran, is a braindead comparison.

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There is a simple experiment you can do in your house that will make my point clearer.

Get a candle and try this:

1. Think about putting your hand right above the fire.
2. Put your hand right above the fire until you feel pain and then remove it.
3. Keep your hand above the fire for a few minutes.

Once done, let me know f you still believe 1, 2 and 3 are the same thing.
You misunderstand the nature of Evil, the ideology of Nazism that was spawned from it and Christs teachings on Evil, whether it be in thought, word or deed, ALL evil comes from the heart of men, it comes from their thoughts, and we ALL have those thoughts, thoughts of hatred, of greed, of lust, of envy, of pride and selfishness, and from those thoughts, depending on our nature, our beliefs, our circumstances and the prevailing trend fn the society we live in, come our actions, thoughts are the foundations on which ALL evil actions are based, and those thoughts and actions, given the right conditions, can quickly spiral out of control, feeding on each other and driving men to greater depths of Depravity and Hatred. When the Nazis came to power in 1933 there was no talk of extermination of the Jews except for a few fringe elements, the talk was of expulsion of the Jewish population of Germany, but ever more radical hate filled thoughts expressed through propaganda, and the corrupting nature of the Nazi regime itself, led to Extermination, first of those considered not worthy to live, the mentally and physically disabled, and then of entire racial groups. And what of those that thought the same way as Hitler, agreed with his extermination of the Jews and others, but didn't participate physically in that extermination process, they are culpable by their complicity, their silence of consent. This is why Christ showed in Matthew 27-28 that thinking of Adultery is the same as committing adultery itself, and in Matthew 21-22, that anyone saying "Raca" to another shall be guilty of judgement and Hell fire, indicating that "anger and demeaning language towards a brother equates to Moral Murder". Evil thrives on our thoughts, our words and deeds, you cant have one without the other, and ALL will be subject to Christs condemnation.
 
@Rad
This is what happens when you support the world’s way of showing displeasure against objectionable governments or conditions. Such protesting is not Christ-centered or Biblically grounded, and it’s ungodly behavior that only makes matters worse without fixing anything.


You can have all the good intentions, and I'm sure you do not condone this behavior, but that's the whole point. If you start a protest that isn’t centered on Christ, then it becomes something entirely different and not of God, no matter how much you view the cause as righteous. It simply isn’t.

By the way, the bearded protester is a known agitator who even showed up at the Vice President’s Catholic church to stage a protest. He’s an ungodly man who doesn’t really care about the issues, only about spreading chaos, yet thousands of people follow his lead and do the same. :(

Pray, and pray some more. Turn it over to the Throne of Mercy & Grace. Walk Boldly, and present you case to the One who actually has the power to make change happen!

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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I base my objections to the Evils of this World by trying to follow the example and teachings of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. I would not be part of a violent demonstration, and while i understand the frustration and anger thats generated by the injustice and brutality going on would always try to remain peaceful. I am a great admirer of MLK jnr, and while i recognise he was no saint, and never claimed to be, he always tried to remain calm and peaceful despite the numerous provocations and violence he, and the movement he led, was subjected to........and i believe strongly that Justice, in all its forms, is an integral part of Christs teaching, "to love your neighbour as yourself" and "to treat others as you'd want to be treated" is a definition of Justice itself, for what does the Lord require of us " But to act Justly, to love Mercy and to walk humbly with your God",, Justice is not an option that we as Christians can choose whether or not to practice, it is there at the Heart of what it means to be a Christian, The "Sermon on the Mount" which i have heard described as the "Blueprint for a Christian life", is the basis of my life as a Christian, and the cause of Justice threads its way through Christs words...... and of course i pray, but that isnt all that Christ demanded of his followers, he called on us to act, to give our lives in his service, to deny ourselves, take up our Cross and lead a life of sacrifice for the love of others, especially those in need, who ,if we believe Christs words in the "Sheep and the Goats" represent Christ himself, what greater blessing can there be on this Earth for a Christian than to help our Saviour himself. There is so much more that we as Christians are called on to do than Pray, for we are called to be the "Salt of the Earth" and to "Let our Light so shine before men, that they may see our good works and glorify our Father who is in Heaven".

With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick

Steve
 
I base my objections to the Evils of this World by trying to follow the example and teachings of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. I would not be part of a violent demonstration, and while i understand the frustration and anger thats generated by the injustice and brutality going on would always try to remain peaceful. I am a great admirer of MLK jnr, and while i recognise he was no saint, and never claimed to be, he always tried to remain calm and peaceful despite the numerous provocations and violence he, and the movement he led, was subjected to........and i believe strongly that Justice, in all its forms, is an integral part of Christs teaching, "to love your neighbour as yourself" and "to treat others as you'd want to be treated" is a definition of Justice itself, for what does the Lord require of us " But to act Justly, to love Mercy and to walk humbly with your God",, Justice is not an option that we as Christians can choose whether or not to practice, it is there at the Heart of what it means to be a Christian, The "Sermon on the Mount" which i have heard described as the "Blueprint for a Christian life", is the basis of my life as a Christian, and the cause of Justice threads its way through Christs words...... and of course i pray, but that isnt all that Christ demanded of his followers, he called on us to act, to give our lives in his service, to deny ourselves, take up our Cross and lead a life of sacrifice for the love of others, especially those in need, who ,if we believe Christs words in the "Sheep and the Goats" represent Christ himself, what greater blessing can there be on this Earth for a Christian than to help our Saviour himself. There is so much more that we as Christians are called on to do than Pray, for we are called to be the "Salt of the Earth" and to "Let our Light so shine before men, that they may see our good works and glorify our Father who is in Heaven".

With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick

Steve
I agree that there is so much more Christians can do, but if not guided by the Holy Spirit, you and I know that it will then be done by man's own understanding, and that unless God intervenes will lead down the wide path. Eventually, as seen through the video I shared, it will include the persecution of Christians. You also did not state that what was done was wrong. Which tells me you approve of it. :(

So, protest even in a Church is acceptable to you, I guess. If you notice it was also done, in a white church, and not a black one! Truth be told, they would have had a time, and half if they had tried it in one and that is why they didn't! I can tell you that with no uncertainty! lol You will also have those who profess to be believers, leading many others away from Christ, because you would apply man's teaching/perspective, to a Godly one. Otherwise, you'd have seen it happening in the early church which you did not. Many died without resistance, just living the life they were called to, and that was bringing them to Christ.

Protesting will lead to violence, because humanity does not know how to behave. As far as MLK, you'd be better sticking with Jesus. MLK was more of a Marxist, then anything else. If you're curious why I would say that, check out Voddie Baucham who has just last year gone to be with the Lord, but I'm sure there are recorded interviews that he has done in the past on this subject that would enlighten you.

"Let our Light so shine before men, that they may see our good works and glorify our Father who is in Heaven".
You must ask yourself are these good works that you are seeing played out in these protests in America?
Protecting law breakers, child abusers, murderers, and other crimes who are being arrested, and removed from this country that they entered illegally. I do not think that God wants to be aligned with those who would protect such, as much as you might want to believe otherwise.

So, far the number out of those deported is 70% that have done crimes that any other citizen would be incarcerated for, but they're allowed to run free, to do it over and over again! That should upset you brother! Because they abuse innocents, and people who are protesting, won't even admit to this being the case!!! Oh, and the other 30% were probably hanging out with those 70%! Sorry I couldn't help but add that last comment, For the sake of appearing Christ like, they are allowing atrocities and those who commit them to continue on and won't offer any solutions to how to fix it! Politicians (mostly Democratic) are complicit to these as well! They make the local LEO's stand down, until it becomes overwhelming, and impossible to stop, without the loss of life. Then blame ICE and this Administration for being at fault!!! Trying to absolve themselves of any of the blame. One day they will be held accountable, from the true purveyor of justice, righteousness, who is the Almighty!

So, please don't try to justify Godly behavior, by ungodly means as a way to justify the actions being perpetrated in this country.

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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