Why Do You Have No Power?

[detniona]

@Waggles & @God's Truth & @Gregoryp & @PloughBoy

All saved believers have that power as they are the sons of God by that seal of adoption.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This power is not received "again" after one is born again of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit never left because God dwelling in us is a testimony from God that He has saved us for why we are always Spirit-filled since salvation.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Are you willing to be put to the test
to prove your talk or are you just all talk and no walk?

 

[vhusley]

You are steeped in false Calvin doctrine.

That’s rich. You say this, yet you openly defend two of the main tenets of false Calvinist doctrine while posting on this forum (“Unconditional Election” and “Irresistible Grace”)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you appear to believe that it is impossible for a sinner to choose God or to come to Him of their own will.

 

[PloughBoy]

@Waggles & @God's Truth & @Gregoryp & @PloughBoy

All saved believers have that power as they are the sons of God by that seal of adoption.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This power is not received "again" after one is born again of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit never left because God dwelling in us is a testimony from God that He has saved us for why we are always Spirit-filled since salvation.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

Your quote;

“All saved believers have that power as they are the sons of God by that seal of adoption.”
your grade: C-

This time I am going to tell you why:

Your quote, is considered a “Future” indicative statement.

In others words, in laymen terms: “The Cart before The Horse”,

That is what happens when a person climbs in, some other way.

And there is much for me to say, concerning your trail of bread crumbs. But one crumb at a time.

 

[vhusley]

And since that seal of adoption is not going any where, no saved believer can lose their salvation, even though not every saved believer will be ready for the Bridegroom when He comes.

This is false doctrine you are spreading friend.
Apostasy is real. It’s biblical.
God’s Word speaks to it and warns believers of it in more than one place.
A believer CAN be some apostate and fall from God’s grace.
Scripture says “No one can pluck them from my hand…” it DOES NOT say that we can’t willingly leave it.

Of course, if you are from the Calvinistic/Reformed ilk of prideful/false theology….you will try and convince me that God’s Grace is “irresistible” and that He had “pre-selected” His children to be saved from the foundations of the earth….and that we did not/can not make an active decision in our own minds to follow Him.

If that’s where you’re going to take me with a response, please spare me and save the bandwidth. I’ve already been down that road and was “about that life” for many years…..before receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost and coming into deeper truth.

 

[PloughBoy]

@Waggles & @God's Truth & @Gregoryp & @PloughBoy

All saved believers have that power as they are the sons of God by that seal of adoption.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

This power is not received "again" after one is born again of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit never left because God dwelling in us is a testimony from God that He has saved us for why we are always Spirit-filled since salvation.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

That stuff you are talking about is elementary kindergarten baby school materials. Language for a baby still in diapers and being taught by a 8 year old now talking!
Who have failed the 4th grade every year for the last 15 years! And got a lit mouth.

And I am being kind. Because if I was rude I would have said “Failed special Ed.”

And y’all have to excuse me. This person is coming on here trying school us! Like we do not have a “Eternal “. Teacher, a Parakletos, an “Advocate” residing in us forever and never will leave us!

He is insulting us and “The Very “SPIRIT” that is in us!

Pray for me my “True brothers and Sisters” in CHRIST. Because I am about 2 minutes from going “Ghetto”; meaning = (Historical) “The Jewish quarter in a city”

How dare, this person come in hear, and instruct “The Body of Christ” where each one has a part. Coming in here, with that “Lane duck ship wreck Goat herders theology! Thinking we are a part of “Gideon’s army” who lap water like dogs. And had the nerve to list our names for the intended “Targets”.
Ok I am going to stop right here. I am claiming down, for give ok, but he insult us.

I hope you do not mis-understand me I didn’t say he insult me, I said, us! For we are one, even the least of us!

I know I am toeing the line. But sometimes one has to take one, for the team.

And I love this “Team” and you know who you are.

Acting like we do not know how to read or have Bibles.

Ok enough is enough.

Shalom

 

[complete]

None of you reading this has any power.
Why is it that way with you?

Hello @detniona,

This is a challenging first post. You really know how to make friends and influence people, don't you.

How do you believe the power of the Holy Spirit should be manifested both 'in' and 'through' us?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[GodB4Us]

Are you willing to be put to the test
to prove your talk or are you just all talk and no walk?

@PloughBoy @vhusley @complete @God's Truth @Gregoryp @Waggles @Christ4Ever @Chad @Mayflower @Bob Carabbio @Curtis @Hekuran @Shaolin @Rookster @Sue D. @Admon Mikha'el @AnneOminous

Trusting Him keeping me from my sins and helping me to follow Him, I can testify to His power in me for how I am living as the sons of God.

If you are looking for the dramatic like in Khundalini, where one can experience a supernatural power, fire, or electricity, as if one can receive a filling of the Holy Ghost again, that s not Christianity, but the falling away from the faith by seducing spirits.

And actual comparison can be seen here between the Christian churches and khundalini;

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Since Khundalini was before Pentecost, then for sinners to depart from Khundalini and those spirits is why that should not be found in Christianity, but it is because of this prophetic warning for these latter days.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Although saved believers acknowledged that the Holy Spirit is in them still, yet in works they deny Him by receiving Him again after a sign, even for a sign of tongues which never comes with interpretation and thus the author of confusion which is not of God.

If you are not referring to the dramatic manifestation of power in this manner whereby many are led astray by seducing spirits, then know that I have power just by how He helps me and enables me to follow Him, walking the talk..

 

[God's Truth]

Are you willing to be put to the test
to prove your talk or are you just all talk and no walk?

I think I remember you from other sites. Didn't you used to keep saying something like, let God be the judge between you and me?

The Lord rebuke you.

 

[God's Truth]

That’s rich. You say this, yet you openly defend two of the main tenets of false Calvinist doctrine while posting on this forum (“Unconditional Election” and “Irresistible Grace”)

I do no such thing.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you appear to believe that it is impossible for a sinner to choose God or to come to Him of their own will.

You are definitely wrong. Where would you get that I believe that? I have already said that Luther and Calvin taught falseness.

 

[God's Truth]

This is false doctrine you are spreading friend.
Apostasy is real. It’s biblical.
God’s Word speaks to it and warns believers of it in more than one place.
A believer CAN be some apostate and fall from God’s grace.
Scripture says “No one can pluck them from my hand…” it DOES NOT say that we can’t willingly leave it.

Of course, if you are from the Calvinistic/Reformed ilk of prideful/false theology….you will try and convince me that God’s Grace is “irresistible” and that He had “pre-selected” His children to be saved from the foundations of the earth….and that we did not/can not make an active decision in our own minds to follow Him.

If that’s where you’re going to take me with a response, please spare me and save the bandwidth. I’ve already been down that road and was “about that life” for many years…..before receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost and coming into deeper truth.

No one can pluck them from God's hand, but we are warned for a reason.

If we are in God's hand it can be a dreadful thing.

Hebrews 10:30 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[PloughBoy]

This is false doctrine you are spreading friend.
Apostasy is real. It’s biblical.
God’s Word speaks to it and warns believers of it in more than one place.
A believer CAN be some apostate and fall from God’s grace.
Scripture says “No one can pluck them from my hand…” it DOES NOT say that we can’t willingly leave it.

Of course, if you are from the Calvinistic/Reformed ilk of prideful/false theology….you will try and convince me that God’s Grace is “irresistible” and that He had “pre-selected” His children to be saved from the foundations of the earth….and that we did not/can not make an active decision in our own minds to follow Him.

If that’s where you’re going to take me with a response, please spare me and save the bandwidth. I’ve already been down that road and was “about that life” for many years…..before receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost and coming into deeper truth.

Sir, I am going to just address one thing here, that’s all. In a “Calvinistic way” what happen at The “Synod of Dort” 1619. Forty years after “John Calvin’s death”
One thing, in layman terms. What does “Irresistible Grace” means:
‘ I am walking down the street a single man and happy to be single and not desiring to be married to any woman, no matter who she is, I am walking down the street this woman is approaching me, from the opposite direction I see her coming in a distance, I can see her “Silhouette” approaching me, they way she moves in my direction complements me,
The sway of her movement captures my attention from way off. My senses becomes kneel, as we approach one another, then I notice she is noticing me, how can I possible sense this, but she is.
As we gets closer a can sense her natural smell, how can this be. Her Attraction seems to be “irresistible” and her charm towards me “captures” me, or may I say it drags me, the way she looks at me and as she passes me I turn my head, and forgot who I was, and I turn around and started heading her way. “irresistible” her name is “Grace”!

And that is what we called in The Black “Pulpit”; years ago,
Is
“Hot off The Wire”.

 

[Brother Paul]

You was not even drinking milk, when I got on this “Battle field” even now you have not even approached “Boot Camp” let alone put your foot down on the training field.

You did not answer his question. When JESUS says, YOU will receive POWER from on high, what does that word POWER mean to you (I know what it is...in the Greek it is dynamos, literally POWER, as opposed to exousia meaning Authority), The distinction IS meat not milk.

Ultimately GOD has all that is called POWER in creation but there are different authorities dependent on one's role. In the beginning God gave humanity dominion (He is a God of His word) and man submitting to the line of knowledge presented by Belial (the Serpent) inadvertently gave him dominion (Luke 4:5,6) and he is now the god of this world. God foreknowing all this promised a redeemer (Genesis 3:15) and Jesus is the redemption but His Kingdom (though within all who submit to His Lordship) has not yet come and will be realized in this realm at the Parousia (the 2nd Coming). Until then "POWER" is given by God as He wills but some of the worldly power we see and hear on the news is of the god of this world (Belial).

 

[detniona]

I think I remember you from other sites. Didn't you used to keep saying something like, let God be the judge between you and me?

The Lord rebuke you.

I love the rebukes of my God. It is called correction to which is love.
You are all talk and no walk.

 

[God's Truth]

I love the rebukes of my God. It is called correction to which is love.
You are all talk and no walk.

It is what the angel said to Satan.

 

[GodB4Us]

No one can pluck them from God's hand, but we are warned for a reason.

If we are in God's hand it can be a dreadful thing.

Hebrews 10:30 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Since you acknowledge that truth, then apply that truth that no one can lose their salvation, even if they go astray, be denied by Him, and get left behind at the rapture event as disqualified from attending the Marriage Supper but not cast out of His kingdom. as this was the case for the five that were foolish virgins and yet they were of the ten that ARE the kingdom of heaven as declared in the very first verse of that parable in Matthew 25:1-13

 

[detniona]

It is what the angel said to Satan.

And I am saying it to you. The Lord rebuke you.

 

[God's Truth]

Since you acknowledge that truth, then apply that truth that no one can lose their salvation, even if they go astray, be denied by Him, and get left behind at the rapture event as disqualified from attending the Marriage Supper but not cast out of His kingdom. as this was the case for the five that were foolish virgins and yet they were of the ten that ARE the kingdom of heaven as declared in the very first verse of that parable in Matthew 25:1-13

Jesus warns us for a reason.
I explained to you that I believe some believers will experience some wrath.
I don't agree with you about people being excluded from the wedding supper but able to go to the wedding.
There is only one resurrection from the dead with physical bodies.

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy @vhusley @complete @God's Truth @Gregoryp @Waggles @Christ4Ever @Chad @Mayflower @Bob Carabbio @Curtis @Hekuran @Shaolin @Rookster @Sue D. @Admon Mikha'el @AnneOminous

Trusting Him keeping me from my sins and helping me to follow Him, I can testify to His power in me for how I am living as the sons of God.

If you are looking for the dramatic like in Khundalini, where one can experience a supernatural power, fire, or electricity, as if one can receive a filling of the Holy Ghost again, that s not Christianity, but the falling away from the faith by seducing spirits.

And actual comparison can be seen here between the Christian churches and khundalini;

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Since Khundalini was before Pentecost, then for sinners to depart from Khundalini and those spirits is why that should not be found in Christianity, but it is because of this prophetic warning for these latter days.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Although saved believers acknowledged that the Holy Spirit is in them still, yet in works they deny Him by receiving Him again after a sign, even for a sign of tongues which never comes with interpretation and thus the author of confusion which is not of God.

If you are not referring to the dramatic manifestation of power in this manner whereby many are led astray by seducing spirits, then know that I have power just by how He helps me and enables me to follow Him, walking the talk..

Your quote
“Trusting Him keeping me from my sins and helping me to follow Him, I can testify to His power in me for how “I am living as the sons of God.”

The Sonship is “indicative”, we are being “molded”, our “Redemption” draws near. We have not arrived, our “Hope” has not come yet. For many dwells in “vain Faith” “vain hope”!
The “Corrupted” has not put on The “Incorruptible”. The “Coronation” has yet to come. The Adoption has not taken place but the statement is “indicative”. But “Aorist Infinitive” if you are a “True Believer “ in “Predestination” something that “Happen” in “ETERNITY” or in The PAST in a “ Worldly “ term “Terminology”

If this language is confusing, some may call it “Calvinese” others “Pure Foolishness”.
Take your pick.
“Predestination” seems to be your choice

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy @vhusley @complete @God's Truth @Gregoryp @Waggles @Christ4Ever @Chad @Mayflower @Bob Carabbio @Curtis @Hekuran @Shaolin @Rookster @Sue D. @Admon Mikha'el @AnneOminous

Trusting Him keeping me from my sins and helping me to follow Him, I can testify to His power in me for how I am living as the sons of God.

If you are looking for the dramatic like in Khundalini, where one can experience a supernatural power, fire, or electricity, as if one can receive a filling of the Holy Ghost again, that s not Christianity, but the falling away from the faith by seducing spirits.

And actual comparison can be seen here between the Christian churches and khundalini;

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Since Khundalini was before Pentecost, then for sinners to depart from Khundalini and those spirits is why that should not be found in Christianity, but it is because of this prophetic warning for these latter days.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Although saved believers acknowledged that the Holy Spirit is in them still, yet in works they deny Him by receiving Him again after a sign, even for a sign of tongues which never comes with interpretation and thus the author of confusion which is not of God.

If you are not referring to the dramatic manifestation of power in this manner whereby many are led astray by seducing spirits, then know that I have power just by how He helps me and enables me to follow Him, walking the talk..

Your video’s are a very well know fact, but who have believe our report. I got over 40 years into this arena. We have entered in “Judgment” so time ago. “for Judgment beings at the house of God” has already began and manifested before our eyes.

 

[GodB4Us]

Your quote
“Trusting Him keeping me from my sins and helping me to follow Him, I can testify to His power in me for how “I am living as the sons of God.”

The Sonship is “indicative”, we are being “molded”, our “Redemption” draws near. We have not arrived, our “Hope” has not come yet. For many dwells in “vain Faith” “vain hope”!
The “Corrupted” has not put on The “Incorruptible”. The “Coronation” has yet to come. The Adoption has not taken place but the statement is “indicative”. But “Aorist Infinitive” if you are a “True Believer “ in “Predestination” something that “Happen” in “ETERNITY” or in The PAST in a “ Worldly “ term “Terminology”

If this language is confusing, some may call it “Calvinese” others “Pure Foolishness”.
Take your pick.
“Predestination” seems to be your choice

How about seeing how my trusting Him as my Good Shepherd & Friend is the power for how I am following Him for why I would praise Him for in Heaven.