Calvinism?

[Shaolin]

So, I saw the Bible Discussions board, went to the Bible Answers section, and clicked on the OP on "Calvinism."

Whoever posted it didn't do justice for truth. Matt Slick and his web site is all calvinist, so the truth about calvinism is not stated there. Calvinism is another false religion every bit as much as JW's and Mormons. They use Scripture like the JW and Mormons do.

Unfortunately, because the blind follow the blind, calvinistic doctrine has been accepted by the church as a "variant" of Christianity, even though calvinism directly contradicts Scripture on practically every count. The ONLY thing calvin had right, is that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh; after that, the entire religious sect is sprinkled and riddled with out of context claims that when fully examined, is NOT supported by Scripture.

I hope this helps some who are confused about whether or not calvinism is a legitimate "variant" of Scripture - because there are no variants of truth. There is the truth of God, and then there are false ideologies, and calvinism is nothing false ideologies of a man who was never saved and who didn't even believe all of Scripture. If he wasn't saved, then he did not have the Spirit guiding his teachings - and when compared with Scripture, he most certainly was not guided by the Spirit of God.

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello Shaolin,
Instead of a rant against Calvinism, how about giving examples of what you disagree with. John Calvin was very prolific in his time.

 

[Hekuran]

@Shaolin which of Calvin's writings have you read?

 

[Shaolin]

Hello Shaolin,
Instead of a rant against Calvinism, how about giving examples of what you disagree with. John Calvin was very prolific in his time.

I don't "disagree" in the way that you think. I disagree because Scripture disagrees with it.

He was a "prolific" person in his day and age among the uneducated and lost in spiritual darkness. How about this for starters...

Corrections Series: #2 Total Depravity; Part 1

God's man was Luther (but even he has many things in error doctrinally speaking), and throughout Biblical history, whenever God raised someone up for a job, satan found a man he could use to try to destroy what God was doing - his man was calvin.

 

[Shaolin]

@Shaolin which of Calvin's writings have you read?

Pretty much everything but his commentaries...seeing what he said about doctrine in his "Institutes," there was no reason to further degrade my mind with his carnally reasoned false doctrines.

 

[God's Truth]

Lutherans and Calvinists are well known denominations which preach regeneration.
Their doctrine of regeneration is false.
They teach that God regenerates people so that they can believe and get saved.
That is a false teaching nowhere in the Bible.
God does not save unbelievers.
God saves those who believe and obey.


We do not get faith supernaturally, as many teach, but we get faith in a very human way, from reading the supernatural message.

Where does our faith come from? Our faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:17. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.

 

[PloughBoy]

Lutherans and Calvinists are well known denominations which preach regeneration.
Their doctrine of regeneration is false.
They teach that God regenerates people so that they can believe and get saved.
That is a false teaching nowhere in the Bible.
God does not save unbelievers.
God saves those who believe and obey.


We do not get faith supernaturally, as many teach, but we get faith in a very human way, from reading the supernatural message.

Where does our faith come from? Our faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:17. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.

May I ask do you “Understand” what a “Puritan” is?…are you familiar the origin of This English Text, The “Authorize Version” The Constitution of The United States, The Mayflower, The educational begins in the new world, The war of slaughtering of The English movement of “The Huguenots” and millions more, without having to Google it. As if you were a lame duck, “Goat Herder arm chair theologian, paddling up a creek called “The Thames River” with a limp spoon.

I think you better let sleeping dogs lie.
Because you are no where heavy enough to even speak “Calvinese”!
Do take my advice, go play in another school yard and maybe you might find “Pliable”.

And please do not take my words as harsh as it would seem, but my vernacular with that hint of hyperbole flair seems to eludes me that common ghetto idiom which is a part of my sinful nature, has away of escaping me, yeh, that unruly tongue who can tame it! So if the hairs on top of of your head begins to rise, if you got any, begin to rise, like the hair on a dogs back, clam down I do not mean any harm. But my nature maybe just to keep your attention span for at least a few more minutes than normal.
You woke yet? Good!
Bye!

 

[God's Truth]

May I ask do you “Understand” what a “Puritan” is?…are you familiar the origin of This English Text, The “Authorize Version” The Constitution of The United States, The Mayflower, The educational begins in the new world, The war of slaughtering of The English movement of “The Huguenots” and millions more, without having to Google it. As if you were a lame duck, “Goat Herder arm chair theologian, paddling up a creek called “The Thames River” with a limp spoon.

I think you better let sleeping dogs lie.
Because you are no where heavy enough to even speak “Calvinese”!
Do take my advice, go play in another school yard and maybe you might find “Pliable”.

And please do not take my words as harsh as it would seem, but my vernacular with that hint of hyperbole flair seems to eludes me that common ghetto idiom which is a part of my sinful nature, has away of escaping me, yeh, that unruly tongue who can tame it! So if the hairs on top of of your head begins to rise, if you got any, begin to rise, like the hair on a dogs back, clam down I do not mean any harm. But my nature maybe just to keep your attention span for at least a few more minutes than normal.
You woke yet? Good!
Bye!

What does what you say have to do with the scriptures?

 

[PloughBoy]

What does what you say have to do with the scriptures?

If you are referring to the “Canon of Scripture” The 66 books, everything.
And History backs me up

What does what you say have to do with the scriptures?

Meet The man not the rumor of his teaching.

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/theologian-ages-john-calvin

 

[PloughBoy]

John 7 (NASB)

50Nicodemus said to them (he who came to Him before, being one of them), 51“Our Law does not judge a man, unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?”

Exodus 23:1
"You shall not spread a false report. Do not join the wicked by being a malicious witness.

 

[God's Truth]

If you are referring to the “Canon of Scripture” The 66 books, everything.
And History backs me up

Meet The man not the rumor of his teaching.

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/theologian-ages-john-calvin

I don't want to go off to read long articles. How about you defend your beliefs here, with scriptures, and without threats?

 

[God's Truth]

John 7 (NASB)

50Nicodemus said to them (he who came to Him before, being one of them), 51“Our Law does not judge a man, unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?”

Exodus 23:1
"You shall not spread a false report. Do not join the wicked by being a malicious witness.

Do you not know that you first only ranted out some strange threats about not waking the sleeping dogs...are something like that.
I can prove to you easily that Calvinism is false.
Let's discuss it.

 

[PloughBoy]

I don't want to go off to read long articles. How about you defend your beliefs here, with scriptures, and without threats?

Mmm interesting, Only The LORD knows how you feel about “The Canon of Scripture”.
you are a easy one for “The Adversary”. A great helper in deed.
And the studies of “Doctrines most likely causes you to faint” since longevity in such matters causes you such distress.
But one think for sure, most likely you have no problem engaging in entertaining sports and a television program with no distress, in all multitudes of hours at a time. Show me how a man or woman and all those other new title labels spends the collections of the added of their times.

“Behold” Lookest thou in thy mirror what doest thou seeth”

 

[PloughBoy]

Do you not know that you first only ranted out some strange threats about not waking the sleeping dogs...are something like that.
I can prove to you easily that Calvinism is false.
Let's discuss it.

Alright, you are going find out what some “archaic” quotes are. And “plagiarism”, since you act like you want to go to school.
And it seems, you have not learn, the difference “Branches” of higher learning, for there are many kinds of schooling.

and to me it seems you have not acquired a degree in any. But if you keep barking up this tree, you will find out I did not acquire my degree, in the school of “Tact & Diplomacy”.

So in saying all this, I think it is best at this time we will leave “Nom de-Jean Calvin” in the unmarked grave where he lies.
Let this topic, for now die.

Shalom

 

[God's Truth]

Mmm interesting, Only The LORD knows how you feel about “The Canon of Scripture”.
you are a easy one for “The Adversary”. A great helper in deed.
And the studies of “Doctrines most likely causes you to faint” since longevity in such matters causes you such distress.
But one think for sure, most likely you have no problem engaging in entertaining sports and a television program with no distress, in all multitudes of hours at a time. Show me how a man or woman and all those other new title labels spends the collections of the added of their times.

“Behold” Lookest thou in thy mirror what doest thou seeth”

I want to debate you here. I'm not going to go read someone else's article.

 

[God's Truth]

Alright, you are going find out what some “archaic” quotes are. And “plagiarism”, since you act like you want to go to school.
And it seems, you have not learn, the difference “Branches” of higher learning, for there are many kinds of schooling.

and to me it seems you have not acquired a degree in any. But if you keep barking up this tree, you will find out I did not acquire my degree, in the school of “Tact & Diplomacy”.

So in saying all this, I think it is best at this time we will leave “Nom de-Jean Calvin” in the unmarked grave where he lies.
Let this topic, for now die.

Shalom

God hides the truth from the educated.

 

[PloughBoy]

I want to debate you here. I'm not going to go read someone else's article.

Debate, you got the wrong Dog! I am not “Fido” !

 

[PloughBoy]

God hides the truth from the educated.

Go play with somebody else. More to your liking.
Bye,

and don’t ring my bell anymore! You have been warn in a kind way.

 

[God's Truth]

Debate, you got the wrong Dog! I am not “Fido” !

I want to debate anyone who wants to discuss doctrine deeply.

 

[God's Truth]

Go play with somebody else. More to your liking.
Bye,

and don’t ring my bell anymore! You have been warn in a kind way.

If you find that you were believing in false doctrines, it is a blessing to find the truth about it.