Satan and U F Os

[rhern53]

Satan and U F Os

The thought of UFOs seems to conflict with Christianity.

I don’t believe anyone has ever placed there hand on a UFO or an alien.

Yes there are witnesses but witnesses to what.

According to scripture, Satan is a deceiver and father of all deception.

The scripture also mentions that Satan is full of power and lying wonders.

2nd Thessalonians 2

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


I thought I would throw this out for interesting discussion.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Yes very interesting @rhern53

Thank you for sharing.

I agree that we cannot under estimate the schemes of satan to deceive and distract believers from the truth.

It is the same convincing deception that causes the relatives of the deceased to seek messages of comfort from the dead.

 

[Sue D.]

The subjects of UFO's has always fascinated me. Especially back in high school. I was taking a speech class and I did mine on that -- Reader's Digest articles.

Have no doubt that there were real sightings -- law enforcement officers saw 'whatever' also. And the speeds and manuverability of some of those aircraft. The military kept on finding 'plausable' excuses -- deniability of. And some figured that the military were busy experimenting with new aircraft. And then there's Area 51 and the people who worked there. Something was going on.

The abductions?! Well -- something was happening to those people.

The source, though. Everyone was describing the same kind of creature. The demon world?

Of course the question Does come up. Are we the only planet with life?! I tend to think so. And I've watched the various movies that portray the possibility Of.

That which Also has occurred to me is that with space traveling continuing. People think there Might be life on Mars -- living conditions Could be right for it. Is it possible that one excuse for the disappearance Of Christians is that they have gone to Mars -- that they have been 'beamed up' and no one is really going to question our being gone. In fact, how many people are going to be at least temporarily relieved that 'we' are actually Gone. Until they start experiencing even More trouble. And That Will happen.

And then there are those who believe that the pyramids that have been found -- were the result of 'visitors' from outer space'. The 'men of reknown' ?!

Satanic forces 'playing' with us?!

Have just been realizing that there haven't been sightings reported since 'back then'. Those have been replaced by more modern 'stuff' taking place?!

Interesting to say the least.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Satanic forces 'playing' with us?!

Yes indeed

 

[Rockerduck]

While studying Bible prophecy, I learned the majority of UFO sighting began/occurred soon after Israel returned their Homeland in 1948; which was a prophecy fulfilled. It is a deception to keep people from worshiping God.

 

[Sue D.]

I remember sightings and those were happening later than that -- I was born in 49 and those were taking place when I was in high school / early college years. I'm not trying to discredit Bible prophesy. Just stating that those sightings have obviously been taking place for a Long time.

 

[Rockerduck]

"I remember sightings and those were happening later than that"

Hello Sue,
I did say the majority of sightings Began in 1948, They did continue after and increased.

 

[Ivan Chamurliev]

I personally don't believe in UFOs and all that stuff, but even if someone proves me there is I will still believe in God. God is so great. Much greater then what anyone thinks He is.

 

[Ivan Chamurliev]

One thing that we need to notice is that recent famous movies with UFO story in them unwillingly or willingly are produced to get people confused about the question of the rapture, that we know it will happen. This is kind of preparation and brainwashing ( if we can call it in such a way ) of the people watching it, especially the young audience. How often we see a movie with aliens abducting, taking away someone. While ago I saw a sci-fi movie where a third part of the world population was taken away. that means that when that happens one day ( by the rapture ), then most of the people will relate it with UFO and not with God. and this is the purpose of the enemy. And what about the war that Revelation 19:19 speaks about? People will be deceived and go to war against Christ and His army, thinking they are going against someone else?! Another scenario that is often seen in many movies and productions, trying to unite the humanity into one and fight against UFOs or anything else. They are always trying to portray them as some kind of enemies, not knowing that God Himself will be there, but the people wont believe that. Most of these are subliminal messages trying to interact with us. Obviously most of the people making that don't know, but I believe there is a deceiving spirit behind it guiding and putting these ideas into people. That means we need to be careful.

 

[Rockerduck]

"I personally don't believe in UFOs and all that stuff"
Hello Ivan,
Unidentified flying objects are just unidentified. Cherubim are described in Ezekiel 10. Verse 11 states; When they went, they went upon their four sides, they turned not as they went, but the place whither the head looked, they followed it; they turned not as they went. Verse 12 - And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had. Verse 16 -And when the cherubim went, the wheels went by them; and when the cherubim lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them.

 

[Ivan Chamurliev]

"I personally don't believe in UFOs and all that stuff"
Hello Ivan,
Unidentified flying objects are just unidentified. Cherubim are described in Ezekiel 10. Verse 11 states; When they went, they went upon their four sides, they turned not as they went, but the place whither the head looked, they followed it; they turned not as they went. Verse 12 - And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had. Verse 16 -And when the cherubim went, the wheels went by them; and when the cherubim lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them.

Yes. You are right in this. If we speak about cherubims then it's another story. I was referring differently.

 

[I love the Lord]

Rocker duck, you'd be surprised by how the new age (a compilation of esoteric beliefs) uses exactly the same verse to prove the Bible talks about UFOs, and therefore the proof. They insist that verse is a ufo. Funny how they who do not even believe have to interpret the Bible. But yes, they lead many astray with exactly this verse. It's disgusting.
And taken out of the context. As usual.

II have experience with UFOs a lot. Especially as coming out of the new age and those things. I still see. But I just observe.
For 3 years I had nightmares about UFOs, the greys, the ones who have large eyes and big head and small bodies, coming taking me and doing things. It was in my twenties. The first night it started I had screamed so much I woke up a whole apartment complex. My best friend was living next door, and she knocked my door asking if I was alright. I had screamed like I was being murdered. Something must obviously have happened. I didn't remember. But after that, my dreams started. Each night, at 3 am, for 3 years, I dreamt they came and took me, and did experiment. Things like needles and operations. I lost time too. I could swear I had just went to bed, waking up at 7 am. This was real. It was no joke.
I saw a lot of crafts outside as well, unexplained things.
Then one night, I had the bright idea that God could protect me, and I said Jesus name when I saw them. You know what happened. They vanished like dust.
Immediately they vanished into thin air.
I'm not joking. They did.
I was just looking. In shock, but mostly in relief.
They never ever returned!
I could sleep peaceful through the night.
The name of Jesus..

SO, a lot of people have the same experience I've read. But they are ignored by those communities or those preaching about UFOs. Despite trying to have a dialogue, and despite their proofs.
That says it all.

II believe the pyramids etc we see is a result of these creatures. Some might be nephilim. Some might be fallen angels.

 

[Rockerduck]

Hello I love the Lord

This may be a result of 2 Thessalonians 2:11 - 12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[I love the Lord]

Yes that's what is going on. It really is a strong delusion. Literally it felt like something put over the mind. Like you can't think. Or just a certain way. I could literally feel it. When I tried to break out. Then when I had, by the grace of God, the friends who were in it trying to push the same stronghold on me again, being sensitive I could feel it coming. Like a wave. A force. A very strong force to the point after talking to them I was like I've been hit. Feeling confusion, nausea, convincing thought going on like a radio. Literally. This is what we are up against! I only conquered by Jesus. It all leaves, when I cling to Him.
So strongholds, you bet!

 

[Sue D.]

One thing that we need to notice is that recent famous movies with UFO story in them unwillingly or willingly are produced to get people confused about the question of the rapture, that we know it will happen. This is kind of preparation and brainwashing ( if we can call it in such a way ) of the people watching it, especially the young audience. How often we see a movie with aliens abducting, taking away someone. While ago I saw a sci-fi movie where a third part of the world population was taken away. that means that when that happens one day ( by the rapture ), then most of the people will relate it with UFO and not with God. and this is the purpose of the enemy. And what about the war that Revelation 19:19 speaks about? People will be deceived and go to war against Christ and His army, thinking they are going against someone else?! Another scenario that is often seen in many movies and productions, trying to unite the humanity into one and fight against UFOs or anything else. They are always trying to portray them as some kind of enemies, not knowing that God Himself will be there, but the people wont believe that. Most of these are subliminal messages trying to interact with us. Obviously most of the people making that don't know, but I believe there is a deceiving spirit behind it guiding and putting these ideas into people. That means we need to be careful.

I'm in no way suggesting a non-belief in God when researching about UFO's. Those sightings were called UFO's because they had been unidentified flying objects. There's simply a time in history when there were a lot of those sightings. And it's human nature to try to figure out what they were seeing and experiencing.

I don't really think it has anything to do with the rapture -- except that when the rapture Does take place -- there Will be a strong delusion and people will blame the disappearance of people , maybe , On UFO's. And by the time the rapture Does take place -- we don't really know what kind of technowledgy Does or Will exist.

I don't really think there's anything horrible going on with believers -- we're not being deceived by anything satanic trying to lure us away from God.

Sci-fi movies Can be intriguing -- but only one's I ever watched was the Star Trek series. There were some very talented make-up artists who created the people from other galaxies. Everyone knew that they were really human beings dressed up for the movies. Other sci-fi movies aren't worth watching -- too much violence and weirdness.

Movies that try to unite everyone to fight against the alien -- I know which one your'e talking about. The 4th of July. It was a good movie. It wasn't talking about a one-world religion -- just uniting against an enemy.

There Are those who feel that if religion isn't fit into every single world / personal happening that it isn't really viable to be watching. A person doesn't have to have their Bible tucked under their arm to be 'safe' or have Real fun in life.

And, of Course we need to be careful. But we can Also have fun in this life.

 

[I love the Lord]

It doesn't mean we can't watch, I'm not here to judge, but if it's going against God what He talks about, what are we really doing, watching something He abhor. I'm guilty, and it's still a strong temptation. I haven't had a tv for ten years. I recently got one. Just to watch good stuff. I like nature and documentary, and also to follow up, especially on Christian videos.
I use YouTube and Netflix. I'm not on Netflix much. Most of the content I'm throwing up on, and that's coming naturally. But I do like documentary. And when I find something without violence, sex, lust etc I enjoy it. But that's about it. I have to say, being without TV for so long, puts things into perspective. I see more what's going on. Especially the new age occult ufo agenda, or the sexualised agenda. I haven't seen it so clearly before. And I'm repulsed.
Just the other day I was strolling along Netflix just to see what there was. Talk about the draw towards a science fiction occult movie. My mind all of a sudden made all sorts of excuses. All. A small part of me observed asking what's going on? It came with bible verses, and told me that it was not ok, it was occult.
The other parts of me wanted to make the excuses, like, it's ONLY a movie, but I DONT believe in it, it's NOT gonna harm as I know where I stand etc.
Sounds familiar???!
Yet.
The other voice keeps saying it's not of God. God would not do it. Nor would those in the past. So why would you? Do you really think this is okay, just because? It's things that are not of God in here. Or twisted things. You will eat at the table of evil AND God by so doing! Is that right? Would God approve???
The voice actually said.
We know who that was.
And all of a sudden.. I woke up like I just woke up! Clearly seeing what I was doing and what happened.

Strongholds. Demonic. Influence. I believe there is something in or on these movies.
Be careful.

 

[I love the Lord]

Regarding UFOs, well, as I have personally experience with it, I can say I have and do see crafts. They don't interest me anymore, as I know God is more important and that one day He will shed light.
But I know that some of what I've encountered was evil, and did vanish by His name.
We are, correct, not knowing if God would use crafts.
But I have to say, that that ufo cult and ascendant masters cult I was involved with, believed this. They twisted Bible verses too to fit the narrative, and all of a sudden channeling came into the picture, as someone talking from God.
For those who don't know what that is, channeling is used in new age and the occult to communicate with spirits. They claim that they are from God, and throw bible in it and twists it. They speak of love and many times, as in this case, came up with world situations and information that could be verified into tons of books. They had hooked many bible believing Christians. Heck, the things said are actually happening. But the speakers entity, who said it was from God, and claimed to be a ufo being, and asked people to open up to his comrades! And as well said he was on board a space craft!
Take heed!!!!
He didn't understand what or who christ is and what he has done. This entity denied christ. He said christ was only christ consciousness!
See how sneaky.

MMy main point is, the entity denied chrIst when tested by a Christian lady on national radio.

And my biggest main point is that the entity claimed to be from God on a ufo.

WWith this in mind, its more than likely UFOs are not used by God, and a huge deception.
Plus, the angels are travelling without anything in the bible.

 

[Sue D.]

A UFO Cult? Ascendant masters cult? Never heard of that before. Channeling to talk with spirit -- that's occult stuff -- juiji boards and such -- to stay Away from for sure.

I was never into anything like that, ever.

No Wonder you're responding so adamently Against it.

 

[I love the Lord]

I have seen what and how evil uses it, and how I was abused by the aliens myself. Only jesus name and they vanish. No wonder I don't think God uses it. But it does say the angels just appear. Noone wrote about them coming in crafts.
The good alien crafts vs the bad alien craft is used in the new age. Those beings, I've mentioned, was heavily involved in this.
Just think about it.
Beings that have denied christ are. What are the odds for God to use crafts then.

 

[I love the Lord]

As well as its heavily advertised in the new age and the occult and in conspiracy sites, (which I find some interesting) that aliens will come in crafts save us. Well.. That's what the new age, the occult says. Look up theosophy and Helena blavatsky, look up Christian Stephen bancarz in youtube or fb, he came out of it. He can say more about this than anyone.
Point is, they say it. They promote the UFOs from God.