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  1. newnature

    newnature New Member

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    Were the Jews embracing Paul’s message? While some believe Paul’s message, the vast majority rejected it; a validation of why God had set Israel aside nationally in the first place, and why God had called this new Apostle who would be sent to the Gentiles. Paul had gone to the Jews of Asia first, that was his intent. He held their unbelief up in front of them and he said, “Now I am free to go to the Gentiles in Asia”, and he did so. They were envious of the attention the apostle Paul was getting, and that envy had led to a rejection of not only Paul, but of Paul’s message.

    Paul had already proven blindness when it came to the Jews and there is nothing special about those of Jewish heritage who are in that land today. They enjoy no higher status with God during this age of grace, no matter what some may say or think, than any other nationality on the face of the earth; all must come alike to God today. When God deals with Israel as a special nation again, when they are re-gathered to that land, they will be re-gathered in belief, they will enter the land and given the totality of the land. Christ, their King, will be with them, and they will dwell safely according to scripture, that will take place after the tribulation of those days, at Christ’s second coming.

    What makes Paul’s good news unique and distinct? According to the secret that was revealed to Paul? Do you believe it was an all-sufficient reconciliation where the entirety of the world’s sin debt was concerned, or do you believe that you must obtain a new measure of reconciliation every time you sin, and that is by seeking a new measure of forgiveness from God, that he might be reconciled to you. Who in the world are you asking for forgiveness from? From God, therefore the assumption is that he is not reconciled when you sin. In your mind, you are separating yourself from God by your sin, and Paul is saying that God has already reconciled you where your sins are concerned. Seems like Paul should have been able to make great progress with his message of grace; exclusively revealed to our Apostle, the apostle Paul by the ascended, glorified Christ.
     
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    What a shame, and what a waste. Those who will come to Him are going to be saved. Those who will not, He already knows their hearts and acts accordingly:

    Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
     
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    The Jew has nothing to do with it as they are on their own trip worshiping Idolitry, until the two sticks come to gether in the end.
    Jew worship and Israel are not one and the same. the Jew is lost and Israel is the people of God.
    The State that was cunningly called israel is not Israel at all, true Christanity is Israel !
    Race has nothing to do with Israel, the people of God ! as the people of God, do God's will, end of story. and they who do not do the will of God are not Israel at all and never will be as such and never were.
    Israel is a Spiritual understanding first and formost and not a worldly first and formost as the Jews push.
    Jesus Christ is the Lord and our Saviour, end of story and any who push any other are of Satan. and at the end it is the same Jesus Christ, so don't be fooled.
     

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