Since without knowledge of Jesus Christ, a.k.a., "I Am Who I Am", we will die in our sins (John 8:24), is there in the Scriptures any specific authorization for standard and perpetual vision of Jesus Christ just like Moses had (Ex. 3: 1-15)?

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

Originally Posted by Boanerges

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.

No one has eyes to see who Jesus truly is. Like Nicodemus, who presumed to know, "the people of the world are wrong about Jesus". Jesus Christ is completely beyond personal knowledge except by the Spirit's revelation which was poured out, once and for all, in Christ's death on the cross. All this is in the Scriptures, but typically abandoned by Christian theology and tradition.

Additional reasons are Jesus' use of consistently altruistic language, "figures of speech about the Father" and introduction of a paradigm shift in assumptions from the Levitical sacrifices to "the sacrifice of Christ".

(John 3: 1-15; 8: 21-28; 14: 15-21; 16: 5-15, 25-28; 19: 30-37)

Originally Posted by Brighthouse

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

Brighthouse, Many thanks!

Do I see a serious problem here?

Without the perpetual vision of Jesus Christ, strictly according to the Scriptures, the terms of the "new covenant" focused on knowledge of God for all and sealed in Christ's death on the cross, cannot be validated and real!

(Jer. 31: 31-34; John 4: 21-26; Matt. 26: 26-29; 27: 50-56; Heb. 10: 19-25)

No, thank you! This does not at all help anyone. A second-hand Christ ("by faith through grace"?) is a misnomer if that is what you are implying. The Gospel is far greater than that!

Originally Posted by Brighthouse

John 20:24-29,and the last one before Revelations known in the Bible Acts 9:10-18 Hope this helps you EphremHagos.

Really? If you, yourself, have personally seen Jesus Christ, please answer "the 5 wise W's" about him. Thank you!

Originally Posted by Boanerges

Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Christ has never been hidden form those with eyes to see my friend. In the beginning (in Christ) God created all things. In the Tabernacle of Moses we see a perfect picture of the sacrifice of Christ. He runs throughout history from start to it's eventual finish and throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelations.

EphremHagos...I am unsure what you are really after here...

Of course no one living has Seen Christ in the physical form (I will not say, however, that He has not appeared to some)

As born again children of God we do see Christ, in creation, in others, in the scriptures......

Maybe I am uneducated but what are the 5 wise W's?

Second hand??? LOL Without this so called second hand, condemnation would rule with the other hand you do have bro. hehe(Rom 8:1) Perhaps that is why we have two hands to start with. I do not know where you are at in Christ Jesus,it is not my place to judge!So I do not! The New Covenant, could only be made by Jesus, after only Jesus could fulfill the old one. God himself poured out all of his wrath on his dear Son,so he would never have to pour this out upon us.So grace is far from being second handed to me bro. (hebrews 7:6-13)

Before this good brother,conditions by us had to be made to keep the law,which of course we never could,hence why Jesus came in the first place for us. His one and only sacrifice made upon the cross,was made to the law as well,even this was part of his cross he was nailed to.( Colossians 2:13-14) And from all the works of Jesus Christ and him alone,we his children have been set free from the law forever!! Those who wish to mix the law, with grace,are like those who wish to put old wine, in new wineskins.Kind of bitter tasting.hehe

Grace to me brother is not second hand,but rather what leads the nature of love for oneanother in the first place. Since Jesus is our very life now,those who partake, or abide in him, others can see Jesus in them.( john 14:6)LIFE Who Jesus is, is our teacher. And since Jesus has so great a love for us!( john 15:11-17) Why then do you look at grace as being something that was never the very nature of Jesus himself? ( eph 2:8-10) On my salvation, I saw Jesus himself. I saw Jesus from the side,as he was waving an evil spirit away from my body. I am unknown as to whether I was in body or spirit at the time brother.I do not know myself,I was above my body at the time.

From this realm, what I call paradise, because from where I was at the time,I could see both the gates of heaven,and outer darkness. A most evil being came from my left side,lighting and smoke came from such an enity, the gates of heaven opened to my right,and Jesus moved past the gates. The smell was simply awful which came from the outer darkness area,but when Jesus moved past me from the side and waved his hand over the enity,a sweet fragrace filled both the air,and my senses.( 2 cor 2:14-16) I was set free by Jesus himself!!Praise GOD!!

Later on Holy Spirit spoke this to me. God sends who he knows,and he knows who he sends. You may have a tough time believing this brother,but Jesus is as real today, as he ever was. And in his hand of grace,there is no imitation.There are only results from it. Blessing bro

Brighthouse....So awesome!....what an experience