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    I can't believe in a God who would send people to hell

    by Matt Slick

    Denying it or not liking it doesn't mean it isn't real.

    Hell was originally created for Satan and his angels. In the future it will contain those who join Satan in rejectingGod. If you reject God's provision for the forgiveness of your sins, then you will join the Devil who rejected God from the beginning. Is that what you want?

    Could you believe in a God who would become a human, suffer at the hands of humans, and be killed by them, all so that His death could be the payment for their sins? That is extremely loving. God is saving people who deserve to go to hell - and we all deserve that. Remember that the same God that sends people to Hell also died for them. If they reject what God has provided, then what is God left to do? He would have to judge them.

    Whether you believe in something or not does not change the fact of its existence. Jesus spoke often of hell (Matt. 25:41-46; Mark 9:47-48; Luke 16:19-31), and warned us so we would not go there. Would you say Jesus didn't know what He was talking about?

    Are you implying that it is unjust for God to send people to hell? If so, then you accuse God of injustice. Sin is wrong and it must be punished. What would you have God do to those who oppose Him and do evil? Do you want Him to ignore that which is wrong? Do you want Him to turn His head and not be holy and righteous?

    Other excellent threads to consider reading:

    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...istianity.html
    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...iends-god.html
    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...eet-jesus.html
    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...ve-letter.html
    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...bjections.html
    http://www.talkjesus.com/seeking-jes...nship-god.html

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    We belong to who we follow? Listen God has mercy and kind of protects us to some degree. while we find out the truth ? But as long as we are serving satan . If we die ? then we must go where the demons go hell

    2Ti_2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    God does not send any to hell. We decide where we go by who we serve ?

    Rom_14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

    We are serving one or the other ?

    Every Evil thing on earth started with satan . he caused all the evil on this planet .

    God caused all the good and perfect there once was .

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    It is ourselves by the choices we make that condemn ourselves. God gave man free will, yes he gives instruction to us on how to use that free will to live a life pleasing to Him, but will not force anyone to do so instead He leaves that choice up to us on how we will use that free will He gave us. If we choose to do what we know is sinful and do not have a repentful heart then yep we condemn ourselves to hell, but if we use that free will to accept Him as Lord and Savior, repenting of our wrong doings, honor Him, Praise Him, live as He says and do our best to run the race that is before us then we are heaven bound to live with Him in glory. God loves the sinner but cannot and will not accept or condone the sin.

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    I would add a book title to Chad's l,ist: God Forsaken by Dinesh D'Souza. A Christian college president, D'Souza debates atheists and agnostics using science and reason.

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    I want to be a coin in God's pocket that He can spend any way He wishes.

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    If God did not send people to hell, He would not be just. God gave a Way out of going to hell and this is Christ.
    God's love was shone on the cross

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    Quote Originally Posted by clark thompson View Post
    If God did not send people to hell, He would not be just. God gave a Way out of going to hell and this is Christ.
    An eight year old steals from his dads wallet, goes outside and is run over by a bus. He then, according to the majority of Christianity, goes straight to hell because he had not accepted Jesus into his life. He then proceeds to suffer the pains of fire for all eternity. He doesn't die of these pains, nor does the fire destroy him, no, God gives him the gift of eternal life so that he will live forever in those flames suffering without any hope, without any end.

    If any human would devise such a form of torture like this, we would all rise up in righteous indignation and protest vehemently, and rightly so. The Holy Spirit in us would also be rightly grieved and affronted that such a thing would take place and transpire in the name of justice. What we would roundly condemn in one another as being utterly unjust, vicious, genocidal, and depraved, we praise God because He does the same! What we rightly and correctly describe as an abomination for man, we call it a virtue when applied to God!!????

    We need to reconsider the correct meanings of the references to hell. We give it a meaning that is utter contradistinction to the many more verses which state categorically that the wages of sin is DEATH!

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    Hell is not forever . The lake of fire is.

    Also I believe there is a age of accountability. God sees all mankind in the flesh as sinners. None of us are perfect in the flesh mind or body .

    1Co_15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

    Only the spiritual body is perfect , sin free at salvation. Our flesh is still the same sinner we were Born into .

    Rom_6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.


    Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    The flesh body is dead too GOD because of sin.
    The spiritual body is alive to GOD.

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    If I look at this honestly I cannot see how we do not go to hell- thank God for His mercy and Love.
    Psa 62:5 My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

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    If the fair and just punishment for sin is to suffer the torture of an eternally burning hell, then Jesus has not paid the price of our redemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brakelite View Post
    If the fair and just punishment for sin is to suffer the torture of an eternally burning hell, then Jesus has not paid the price of our redemption.
    The bible is very clear that punishment for sin is death (hell).

    This portion of a gotquestions.org article summarizes this clearly...

    Hell is mentioned 167 times in the Bible, sometimes called Gehenna, Hades, the pit, the Abyss, or everlasting punishment (Proverbs 7:27; Luke 8:31; 10:15; 2 Thessalonians 1:9). Jesus spoke of heaven and hell as real places (Matthew 13:41–42; 23:33; Mark 9:43–47; Luke 12:5). The story Jesus told about the rich man and Lazarus was an actual event that demonstrated the reality of the two eternal destinations (Luke 16:19–31). Heaven is the dwelling place of God (2 Chronicles 30:27) where Jesus has gone to “prepare a place” for those who love Him (John 14:2). Hell was created for “the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41). But because every human being is a sinner, every person past the age of accountability has already been condemned to hell (Romans 3:10; 5:12; John 3:18). We all deserve hell as the just punishment for our rebellion against God (Romans 6:23).

    Jesus was clear that “no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again” (John 3:3). He was also clear that hell is an eternal punishment for those who do not obey Him (Matthew 25:46). Second Thessalonians 1:8–9 says that in the end God “will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.” John the Baptist said about Jesus, “His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12).

    John 3:18 explains in the simplest terms who will go to heaven and who will go to hell: “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” So, those who go to hell are specifically those who do not believe in Jesus’ name. To “believe” goes beyond a mental recognition of the truth. To believe in Christ for salvation requires a transfer of allegiance. We stop worshiping ourselves, we forsake our sin, and we begin to worship God with our heart, soul, mind, and strength (Matthew 22:36–27; Mark 12:30).

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