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Marrying divorced woman - 07-17-08, 12:37 AM

I am currently in the same boat as my girlfriend and i are planning on getting married but she is previously divorced. It was due to abuse and cheating to my understanding. Am I going to lose God because we are getting married?
   
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07-17-08, 01:32 AM

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I am currently in the same boat as my girlfriend and i are planning on getting married but she is previously divorced. It was due to abuse and cheating to my understanding. Am I going to lose God because we are getting married?
The word says that nothing can ever sepearate us from the love of God. There are pastors well renowned who are on their second wife and God still uses them trust in God not in man. If you need scriptures or help in anyway IM me.
   
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divorce, and remarriage - 07-17-08, 04:16 AM

I. Divorce & Remarriage Is Adultery

Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery. (Mark 10:11-12)

Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery. (Luke 16:18)

Jesus describes divorce and remarriage as an act of adultery. Even though there may be official paper work involved (e.g. Deuteronomy 24:1, "certificate of divorce"), when a man or woman divorces their spouse and remarries another, this is an immoral act. They have committed adultery, and this is radically serious; because,

Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (Hebrews 13:4; see also 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Revelation 21:8)

Even in cases where there is an "innocent party" involved (i.e. where the woman does not want the divorce), if this "innocent person" remarries, she has committed adultery. As Jesus said, "whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery" (Luke 16:18), and in Matthew 5:32 He says, "whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery." If the man divorced his wife because she was sexually immoral, then the woman would have already committed adultery. But, if she was not sexually immoral, and the man divorced her, and then she remarried, she would then be committing adultery; and her husband who divorced her is the one who caused her to do so (Matthew 5:32). Divorce and remarriage equals adultery (Mark 10:11-12; Luke 16:18).

II. Divorce Does Separate Nevertheless

Some may think, because of Christ's words on divorce and remarriage, a divorce does not really separate the marriage of a husband and a wife. After all, Jesus calls it adultery if a man divorces his wife and then marries another. Doesn't it follow then, that in the eyes of God, even though they have been divorced, they are still viewed as married; and this is why Jesus calls divorce and remarriage adultery? This may sound reasonable, but Scripture never says any such thing.

Even though Christ declared divorce and remarriage adultery, He also nonetheless recognized that divorce does separate a husband and a wife. Speaking in the context of divorce, the Lord says, "what God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:6). In other words, what God has put together in marriage, let not man divorce. Divorce does separate the one flesh of marriage (Matthew 19:5-6; see also Deuteronomy 24:1-4; 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, 27).

Why then does Jesus call divorce and remarriage adultery? He never explains why. He simply states it to be so.

III. The Exception Of Sexual Immorality

Are there any exceptions to Christ's statement? Yes, Jesus also said,

And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery. (Matthew 19:9)

Here in Matthew 19:9 Jesus gives an exception to his statement made in Mark 10 and Luke 16. If a man divorced his wife because she was unfaithful (sexually immoral), and then married another woman, such a situation would not be a case of adultery. Why the Lord does not consider it adultery, He never says. But, nonetheless, He does say such a set of circumstances does not constitute adultery. He does not say it is right or OK to divorce under these circumstances (as some believe, see below). He only addresses whether adultery is being committed or not.

Moreover, Christ also does not say what kind of sexual immorality would need to have been committed. The Greek word used in Matthew 19:9 is porneia, and this is no specific term. In the NKJV it is translated either "fornication" (Matthew 15:19; Mark 7:21; John 8:41; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; Revelation 14:8; 17:2, 4; 18:3 and 19:2) or "sexual immorality" (Matthew 5:32; Acts 15:20, 29; 21:25; Romans 1:29, Received Text & Majority Text; 1 Corinthians 6:13, 18; 7:2; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Revelation 2:21; and 9:21). In 1 Corinthians 5:1 it is used twice for "sexual immorality" where a man has his father's wife. If someone was to say this Greek word is a specific term for some particular kind of sexual immorality, they would be lying. In using this term, Christ spoke very generically.

Some might argue, "The reason divorce and remarriage in the case of sexual immorality is not considered adultery, is because, under the law of Moses, anyone who was married and committed an act of sexual immorality was to be killed. Therefore, death would be involved in such a case. Thus, theoretically, the marriage bond would be broken via death under the law." This kind of argument may sound good, but Jesus said no such thing.

First of all, if they were killed under the law, there would be a death, not a divorce. Also, not all sexually immoral acts committed by a married person required the death penalty. Adultery with a married woman (Leviticus 20:10-11; Deuteronomy 22:22-24), homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13), bestiality (Exodus 22:19; Leviticus 20:15-16), sex with a daughter-in-law (Leviticus 20:12), a wife's mother (Leviticus 20:14), a sister (Leviticus 20:17), any near of kin (Leviticus 18:6-29, "cut off" means death, see Genesis 9:11; Exodus 31:14; Leviticus 17:4), and even sex during the menstrual cycle (Leviticus 20:18), all demanded the death penalty. But, two remaining immoral acts did not call for death. If a married man (or single man) had sex with a betrothed concubine, he was to be scourged, but he was not to be put to death (Leviticus 19:20). Also, a married man (or single man) who had intercourse with a virgin, who was not betrothed, was required to marry the girl and give her father the price of a bride (Exodus 22:16-17; Deuteronomy 22:28-29).

IV. Men And Women Are Not The Same

Matthew 19:9 gives the exception of a man divorcing his wife because of sexual immorality. It does not address a woman divorcing her husband because of sexual immorality. In fact, both passages that give the "exception clause" (i.e. Matthew 5:32 & 19:9) end stating adultery has been committed if a divorced woman is married.

. . . and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. (Matthew 5:32)

. . . and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery. (Matthew 19:9)

Scripture does not give a woman permission to divorce her husband. Even under the law, it was the men who were permitted to divorce their wives (Deuteronomy 24:1; Matthew 19:8), not the women. Some might argue that a woman has the right to divorce her husband if he is sexually immoral. Scripture nowhere says any such thing. Jesus said no such thing.

Moreover, the very passages that would most likely be used to justify such a conclusion (Matthew 5:32 & 19:9), end stating any one who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. Therefore, Scripture teaches that a divorced woman involves herself in adultery whether her husband was sexually immoral or not. Because, Jesus says repeatedly (three times, Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Luke 16:18) marrying a divorced woman constitutes adultery.

In marriage, women are not viewed in the same way as men are. For example, in the law, if a married man (or unmarried man) had sex with a virgin who was not betrothed, he would simply have to marry her or at least pay the bride price (Exodus 22:16-17). This act is never called adultery, even though he had sex with another woman. If a married woman had sex with any man other than her husband (Numbers 5:20), if it was concealed and there were no witnesses against her (Numbers 5:12-13) she would be cursed (Numbers 5:27). If there were witnesses against her (Deuteronomy 17:6; 19:15), she would be killed, along with the man (Leviticus 20:10). Scripture calls it defilement (Leviticus 18:20; Numbers 5:13, 20) and adultery (Leviticus 20:10) when a married woman has sex with a man other than her husband, whether the other man is married or not. For the married man, it is only viewed as adultery if he has sex with a married or betrothed woman (Deuteronomy 22:22-24, note verse 24 "wife"). If he had sex with a virgin who was not betrothed, this is not called adultery (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). It is evident, in the law, that marriage for the woman is not exactly the same as marriage for the man.

Moreover, in Romans 7:2-3 Paul writes,

For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

Here we have a case in which a woman is married to two men. There is no divorce in this passage. It is simply the case of a woman having two husbands. This is called polyandry, and it is clearly depicted as evil; because such a woman would rightly be called an adulteress (Romans 7:3). No such teaching is given for the man.

On the contrary, a man could have two (or more) wives, yet he would not be committing adultery. Polygyny (a man having more than one wife) is never condemned in Scripture. Polygamy for the man is never described to be an adulterous relationship. Polygamy for the woman is (Romans 7:2-3). Polygamy for the married man in the law, under certain circumstances, was actually commanded (Deuteronomy 22:28-29; 25:5-10; see our report on Polygamy). Polygamy for the woman is strictly forbidden (Romans 7:2-3).

For a man, if he were to divorce his wife and remarry another woman, he would clearly be committing adultery (Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Mark 10:12; Luke 16:18). But, if he did not divorce his wife, and married another woman, keeping his first wife as well, Scripture never calls this adultery; because polygamy, for the man, is never condemned. Therefore, it is not the sexual intercourse with another woman, in and of itself, that makes divorce and remarriage, for the man, adultery. It is the divorce (the breaking of the covenant), along with the remarriage, that makes this adultery. If the divorce is removed from this equation, no adultery has been committed, even though he has married another woman. This is true for the man, but not for the woman.

Moreover, when the Lord declares divorce and remarriage adultery (Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Mark 10:12; Luke 16:18), He leaves the man, who is divorced by his wife, uncondemned. No mention of adultery on the man's part is mentioned. Christ simply says,

And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery. (Mark 10:11-12)

She is the one who commits adultery. Christ is silent about the man. Thus, if a man were divorced by his wife, and he were to remarry, there is nothing in Scripture that would identify him as one who committed adultery (as long as he did not marry a divorced woman). But, for the woman, Christ clearly declares,

"whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery." (Matthew 5:32)

If a man divorces his wife, he causes her to commit adultery. If a woman divorces her husband, the man is not declared to be under any such curse. So, for the woman, being divorced by her husband is worse than for a man to be divorced by his wife. [See also Scriptural View Of Men & Scriptural View Of Women.]

V. The Exception In Christ

Further exceptions to Christ's teaching about divorce and remarriage (Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Mark 10:11-12; Luke 16:18) are given to believers in 1 Corinthians 7. In 1 Corinthians 7:8-9 Paul writes,

But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. (1 Corinthians 7:8-9)

In this passage, Paul addresses believers who are "unmarried." This would include anyone who is not married, even divorced believers, because this same term is used for a divorced woman in 1 Corinthians 7:11. Therefore, for the unmarried, who lack self-control, Paul tells the church to, "let them marry."

Later in this chapter Paul discusses the state in which one is found when they came to Christ. Paul encourages the believers "to remain with God in that state in which" they were called (1 Corinthians 7:17-24). In this context Paul writes,

Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you. (1 Corinthians 7:27-28)

Here Paul clearly declares that a man who is divorced from a wife (i.e. loosed), and then remarries, has not sinned. If he has not sinned, then he has not committed adultery. Therefore, for those who come to Christ in a state of having been divorced (loosed), Scripture gives them the freedom to marry.

How can this be? Jesus said, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery" (Luke 16:18). Yet, Paul says, "let them marry" (1 Corinthians 7:8-9) and "you have not sinned" (1 Corinthians 7:26-28). It seems Paul is contradicting Christ, but he is not; because,

if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. (2 Corinthian 5:17)

This is true of both males and females (Galatians 3:28). A person who comes to God in truth (Psalm 145:18; Isaiah 55:6-9) has a clean slate with the Lord (Isaiah 1:8; Psalm 51:7; 103:11-13, 17-18). He has died (Galatians 2:20) and his life is hidden with Christ in God (Colossians 3:3). Christ makes him a new creation, and indeed the old things have passed away, and all things have become new (2 Corinthians 5:17). A divorced person who repents and comes to the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4) has been given a new start. All things have become new. Therefore, such a man or woman could remarry, in the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:39; 2 Corinthians 6:14), and not be guilty of adultery. The old wicked person has died, and now the person lives anew in Christ (Romans 6:6; Galatians 2:20; 5:24).

Furthermore, if a person were divorced by their unbelieving spouse after they came to Christ, this one would also be free to remarry without committing any sin. Under these circumstances, God would not view this as adultery, even though a divorce and remarriage has taken place; because the Lord does not regard such people as still bound by the marriage law.

But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. (1 Corinthians 7:15)

In case some wondered whether this verse truly gives the OK for such a person to remarry, simply note that Paul clearly says they are "not under bondage." The only "bondage" in the context is the bondage of marriage. Also, just a few verses later Paul writes, "you have not sinned" if you, who are loosed from a wife, should marry (1 Corinthians 7:27-28).

Now, what if an unbelieving spouse departs from their believing spouse and they neglect or refuse to file for a divorce? Is the believer still under bondage in such a case? 1 Corinthians 7:15 says no.

1 Corinthians 7:12-13 deals with an unbeliever who is "willing to live with" the believer and the instruction in this case is to not divorce. 1 Corinthians 7:15 deals with the opposite situation in which the unbeliever is not willing to live with the believer (i.e. they depart). Thus, Paul says, "let them depart." Therefore, filing the divorce papers would be an obedient response to 1 Corinthians 7:15 (that is, if the unbeliever neglected or refused to do so). Even though the believer may be the one filing for the divorce, the unbeliever is the one to blame for the divorce. The unbeliever is the one who has separated what God had joined together (Matthew 19:6) by refusing to live with their spouse.

VI. Unholy Unions?
   
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07-17-08, 01:36 PM

From a woman or man sleep with someone else their bond and committment before God is broken and that us why Jesus says it is lawful when this happen and the grounds of divorce are accepted.

The word says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. There are many pastors, prophetess who is on their second wives and the first one is not dead. God is no respector of any person and I see what you are saying but there is nothing and anything that can seperate us from the love of God.

Remember the word of God can be taken figuratively, literal or symbolic sometimes we just need to take a seat back and let the Holy Spirit lead.

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07-17-08, 06:24 PM

That could help a lot of divorcing partners. I have seen many friends go through their parents divorcing, and that affects there daily life. Two partners deciding that not only affect them but their kids(if they have any). And now seeing that divorce is more then just getting seperated, it's wow!! A lot of families go through this, if they only knew the truth!!!

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07-17-08, 11:42 PM

WE need JESUS because of our heart condition. THE HEART IS DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL THINGS, AND DESPERATELY WICKED: WHO CAN KNOW IT?" Jeremiah 17:9).

FOR FROM WITHIN, OUT OF THE HEART OF MEN, PROCEED EVIL THOUGHTS, ADULTERIES, FORNICATIONS, MURDERS, THEFTS, COVETOUSNESS, WICKEDNESS, DECEIT, LASCIVIOUSNESS, AN EVIL EYE, BLASPHEMY, PRIDE, FOOLISHNESS: ALL THESE EVIL THINGS COME FROM WITHIN, AND DEFILE THE MAN. mark 7:21-23).

GOD SAID THESE PEOPLE WHO DIE IN THESE SINS WILL NOT GET INTO HEAVEN.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, Fornication, Uncleanness, Lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, Hatred, Variance, emulations, Wrath, Strife, Seditions, Heresies, Envying, Murders, Drunkenness, Revel lings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. GALATIANS 5:19-21).
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[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

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For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

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That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

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For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.

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Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

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So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

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But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness.

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But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

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For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

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For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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response to Adultery - 08-11-08, 11:20 AM

Seeing that the original topic is Adultery, this I would comment on, though at the same time it is linked to divorce.
As Christ tells us, “That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her, hath committed adultery with her already in his heart”.
Solution; (Job.31:1), “I made a covenant with mine eyes; why then should I think upon a maid?”
As for divorce, an abused woman asked me concerning abuse and divorce, in light of what our Lord says, and I answered this way: that the fundamental meaning of adultery is unfaithfulness to the marriage, and if we look at this as unfaithfulness, and immoral behavior (fornication), we must not make it a matter exclusively to the bed. Because it is unfaithful and immoral to strike your spouse, as well as to verbally abuse, causing mental anguish. For me, that spouse has departed from the marriage, from the sanctity of it, and that spouse is guilty of immorality and unfaithfulness, which for me qualifies the case as adultery by the exception of fornication, which our Lord prescribed.
In this delicate subject, I’m not at all attempting too stretch any meaning, but only looking toward the heart of the Lord, which is mercy; because we know very well that abuse of a weaker vessel would not be acceptable with Christ.
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09-08-08, 02:41 PM

This is an intersting thought:

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IV. Men And Women Are Not The Same

On the contrary, a man could have two (or more) wives, yet he would not be committing adultery. Polygyny (a man having more than one wife) is never condemned in Scripture. Polygamy for the man is never described to be an adulterous relationship. Polygamy for the woman is (Romans 7:2-3). Polygamy for the married man in the law, under certain circumstances, was actually commanded (Deuteronomy 22:28-29; 25:5-10; see our report on Polygamy). Polygamy for the woman is strictly forbidden (Romans 7:2-3).

For a man, if he were to divorce his wife and remarry another woman, he would clearly be committing adultery (Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Mark 10:12; Luke 16:18). But, if he did not divorce his wife, and married another woman, keeping his first wife as well, Scripture never calls this adultery; because polygamy, for the man, is never condemned. Therefore, it is not the sexual intercourse with another woman, in and of itself, that makes divorce and remarriage, for the man, adultery. It is the divorce (the breaking of the covenant), along with the remarriage, that makes this adultery. If the divorce is removed from this equation, no adultery has been committed, even though he has married another woman. This is true for the man, but not for the woman.
How does one defend this in our modern times? Do we accept socially engineered theologies concerning polygyny, or do we accept God's word for what it says?
   
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Divorce and remarriage - 09-09-08, 06:48 AM

DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE – AN ACTS OF REMOVING GOD’S ANCIENT LANDMARK IN OUR MODERN TIMES.
Proverbs 24:21; Isaiah 55:7; Malachi 2:14-16; Matthew 19:6; Revelation 22:18-19
God set landmarks in His word. The Bible doctrines are God’s ancient landmarks which God Himself has set. “My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, for as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.” That is why the Bible says: “My son, fear thou the Lord and the king: and meddle not with them that given to change”. If you tamper with God’s landmark you will slump into doctrinal compromise.
Divorce is a direct blow against who instituted Marriage. From the beginning, Adam & Eve did not have second choice, so God is not God of second choice in marriage .He hate divorce. Divorce close the door of reconciliation – 1Corinthians 7:11
Remarriage to another constitutes adultery, Romans 7:3; Luke 16:18; Proverbs 30:20; Mark 10:1-12; Matthew 5:31-32.
Divorce and remarriage are very common in the advanced nations, and it’s eaten deep at the fabric of Christianity in this modern times. Men and women are changing their commitment and consecration, God’s ancient landmark is being removed as a result of disobedient to God’s word but God never change Malachi 3:5-6
“Remove not the ancient landmarks which thy father’s have set” (Proverbs 22:28).
The worldly system has crept into the church of God as a result of political systems and compromising preacher in our modern times. When we do things in God’s way, we receive divine backing and good result ( this is getting the mind of Christ, not seeking our own ) 1John 2:6; Philippians 2:5 True Christians are only pilgrim on earth, God’s word is giving to us as the only final authority and only true guideline to follow. The Bible tell us clearly that the books will be opened for Genesis to Revelation and we will be judge by what God has written in those book…. And not by man’s interpretation.
In the Middle East churches, it is impossible to get divorce under any circumstances. If you happen to want a divorce, you will have to go to the Moslem court who will demand that you DENY Christ and accept Mohammed. Then, they will grant you a divorce and remarry you to a MOSLEM. But the Christian Court will not divorce and remarry anyone. If a person goes to the Moslem Court and denies Christ, then, he is a heretic and put out of the Christian Church. And if he dies, the church will not bury him. All the churches of all the denomination do their own marriages, and they don’t have to go to the Moslem (Government) Court, as they do in the advanced nations But the church do the whole work and register them in the church book and issue a legal marriage Certificate. And no Christian church will issue a divorce to anyone on any grounds whatever – except putting away for the cause of FORNICATION.
In view of God’s judgment, preachers must preach the whole counsel of God and made every member stand to it, we must preach strict disciplined in the church, not to turn the grace of God to lasciviousness. God is certainly LOVE… but the LOVE of God does not trample over the justice of God. Read John3:36
God called us unto holiness, and without holiness no man shall see the Lord(Hebrew 12:14). Judgment must first begin at the house of God, and if it begins with us, what will be end of those who know not God?–1Peters 4:17.
God is merciful, He is ready to forgive us and heals our land if will turn to Him today with humility and genuine repentance (2Chronicle 7:14, Proverbs 28:13; Ezekiel 18:30-33).
There is nothing like God of second chance in marriage. He is not a respecter of person. You can’t divorce and remarry. You can’t steal a car and continue to use it after repentance, you need to return it to the rightful owner – Restitution.
Marriage was instituted by God before God gave the law to Moses for him to teach the people of Israel . It was God that join a man and woman together not a court. Infact, court was not privy to man’s creation, the Creator and the Founder of marriage says “ ….He hates putting away…..” Malachi 2:16). Christ added ….” Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you , whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. His disciples say unto him, if the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry .But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying…” (Matthew 19: 8-11a). But if you born of God, you will overcome this thing; “whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: for this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith” (1John 5:4).i.e. you must overcome sins(the works of the flesh), self(flesh and passions), Satan(temptation and its allurements), and the world(the lust of eyes and the pride of life), and live a life of self-crucifixion daily with absolute dependence on God’s grace daily before you can be a true child of God.
As a matter of fact, all that court does in marriage is a written witness that two people have agreed to join in Holy matrimony that is instituted by God for the spreading of the human race on earth. God does nor change His laws nor His standards for any one or any generation. His word still remains “ Whatever God has joined t ogether, let no man put asunder” A true born again child of God will not put asunder God’s ordained institution. The Ancient of days hates putting away!
In Matthew 19:1-8 – Moses permitting them to put away their wives did not receive the approval of Jesus. Neither did God tell Moses to go ahead and let them put asunder what I have put, and take another chance at it, and try to make the second marriage succeed.
Remarriage to another constitutes adultery. Romans 7:3; Luke 16:18; Proverbs 30:20; Mark 10:11-12.
Saving for the cause of fornication: Matthew 5:31-32; Matthew 19:9 – Jesus is dealing with one who has broken the law of espousal by fornication. Under the law of espousal they were already considered husband and wife before they came together (Deuteronomy 22: 25-26; Matthew 1:18-25 – The bridegroom had the option to put his espousal wife away when she was guilty of fornication. Joseph did as he was told, “and knew her not, till she brought forth her first son” (Matthew 1:25).
In 1Corinthians 7:15, 11 A brother or Sister have unbelieving companion can separate but remained unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. 1Corinthians 7:39-40; But if her husband died, she can remarry (she is free to do so Romans 7:3). Hence, when one commits adultery, they sin against the marriage vow and bed. But when one commits fornication, they sin against their own body (1Corinthians 6:19-20).
“ A house can change from a heaven to a hell when a child acquires a stepparent”. But God house is established on truth, laws and judgment which are part of the nature of God. God house is a holy place (our body is the temple of Holy Ghost ), the worshippers of God must live a holy life and abide in the God-given heavenly constitution (The Bible) to guide us on earth. 1Timothy 3:15; 2John9-11)
God is a God of orderliness. The combination of holiness, faith and prayer make a lethal weapon no enemy can face, the family that has it shall do exploits. ”Meditate upon these things: give thyself wholly to them that they may appear to all. Take heed to thyself and unto the doctrine: continue in them; for in this thou shalt both save thyself and them that hear thee”(1Timothy 4: 15-16). But for those who hold the truth of God in unrighteousness shall be judged.. 1Peter 4:16, 17-19; 3:4; 1peter 3:17; James 1:15-16; Romans 1:22-24; 1Corinthians 6:9; 15:33-34. God’s judgment on whoredom Read: Leviticus 19:29; Deuteronomy 23:17-18; 22:13-30; Ezekiel 16:33-59; Ephesians 5:5-6; 1Timothy 1:9-10; Hebrews13:4; Revelation 21:8 “ “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband….” 2Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7
   
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adultery - 09-09-08, 11:32 PM

Folks, all these scriptures are wonderful, but many are taken out of context. I would like you all to read Jerm 3: 8-10. God divorced Israel. If God can get a divorce and not be accused of Adultery then he will not accuse you.

Gods will is a couple never divorce, however, divorce does happen and it is alright to remarry. The persons, female or male ARE NOT in adultery. The Law was fulfilled in Christ and the sin of divorce was put on Jesus so those who divorce can remarry. If the Old Testament allowed divorce under the Law, then how much more now under the new? He allowed men to have many wives under the old but that was never his perfect will. Gods will is one wife, one man. Heck, he condemned under the Law anyone marrying a half sister, yet he allowed Abraham to marry Sara his half sister. This was before the Law yet when do you think God thought this was wrong? Before the Law or after? To get the answer Read Romans chapter 5 and read that where there is no law, God did not impute sin to a man. Under the new covenant, God is not imputing men’s sin to their account. See II corth 5: 17-21. Jesus bore ALL MENS SINS! If you sin it bears a wage, but its not from God, its from sin. Sin pays a wage!

Matt 19 is speaking to those who were Jews, it was a story of the religious leaders who tried to TRAP Jesus, it can not be used to beat a person up over marriage and remarriage. John chapter eight deals with a woman caught in actual adultery and Jesus under the Law could have had her AND the man who committed the act stoned. He showed Grace and Mercy. Its our pattern to follow!

Folks, lets get our Covenants in the proper order. God hates divorce and Adultery because of what it does to people; he does not hate people or condemn them to a marriage if abuse or the covenant has been broken. Remember, God wills everyone to obey his word. God will allow divorce and remarriage, but his will is that a couple never divorce. However, it does happen and both parties can remarry. I would highly suggest that both parties go through counseling before remarrying, and then try again. There will be difficulties with children, abuse issues, abandonment issues, alimony and financial difficulties, but if we allow the spirit of God in the situation he can bless what has been destroyed.

Do not underestimate the power of the New Covenant. Understand it and that the Law is to have no part of justification in a New Believers life. Get out of the Old Covenant which was fulfilled in Christ and immerse yourself in the new. The Laws purpose is to reveal sin and make a person run to a gracious savior. Its grace by faith, or Christ plus nothing!

I have been married 33 years and I thank God for his Grace and Mercy!
   
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