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09-14-07, 06:09 PM
I didn't read the whole topic, but to shed some light into the subject of adultery:
Adultery is sin against the marraige vow/ the Covenant of Holy Matrimony. Commiting adultery is going against the vow to honour the spouse in that there would be no others. One is not an adulterer/adulteress for having married a divocee, though the second marriage vow is adultery against the first marriage vow. Since the child of God can get forgiveness and cleansing for sin according to the prescription afforded to all believers in I John 1:9, one must ask God to forgive both instances of adultery against the marraige vow. Also, since no man can put asunder that which God hath joined together, by the marraige vow, it is best to reverence the institution of Holy Matrimony as something God ordained and is not within the power of man or his court systems to begin with in obtaing a divorce. Remembering that is was the hardness of a man's heart towards his new spouse that Mose, a man, permitted the divorce. Also, in the sense of the courtship of the Jewish tradition, the finding some uncleaness in his bride was a wrong against that courtship agreement and was found to have a precedence over the marriage vow, but only according to men and their hard hearts. I know circumstances have differing effects on the mind of many, but divorce is not an institution of God but of man. Separating oneself from an abusive spouse is highly recommended and in all situations, until reconciliation is made. Sorrowfully, that reconciliation is not made until death occurs, and then that isn't always the case that reconciliation was ever made. Better to forgive and make the best of it. Better to let God choose the spouse coupling attraction with spiritual harmony between the two, and NOT this "Adam and Steve" mess!!!! Forgiveness will always have dominion over a hard heart, just ask pharoah if that's not true? |
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06-14-08, 06:27 PM
This is a hot topic. This topic has been close to my heart for a long time. I was raised as a Baptist. But my first marriage ended in divorce because of adultery on my ex-wife's part. Well because it ended in divorce I am frowned upon in the Baptist faith. Because of the divorce I can not even serve as a deacon in the church, yet alone be a pastor as I am becoming now. I have remarried and my wife and I are both saved. There are two big things I would like to point out. Scripture says when you are saved and washed by the blood of the lamb all your sins are forgiven. Scripture also says that once you are forgiven God can't remember sin. So if God has forgiven me, even though I was not at fault, then why would a particular faith still hold it against me. This is why I have changed religions. I believe the ultimate authority and judge is God, not the church.God knows if your heart is true when you ask for forgiveness, and if it is you are saved and born again. Just my thoughts on a very touchy subject.
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06-15-08, 01:41 PM
This is why I have changed religions. I believe the ultimate authority and judge is God, not the church.God knows if your heart is true when you ask for forgiveness, and if it is you are saved and born again. Just my thoughts on a very touchy subject.
Brother, the statement this is why I changed religions is the key to all this junk on divorce. Serving Christ is not a religion, its a relationship. Religion is killing the church. There is no difference between much of the church today and the religious rulers of Jesus time. We have so many puffed up men who follow the doctrine of men and beat people into a state of hopelessness using vain teachings and are all full of their educated selves. If a person has been divorced multiple times, they must ask themselves why. There is a problem and they need to discover what it is before they serve as a leader. Reason being, if you are a pastor and especially if you have been with a congregation a long while, it really hurts the church. Make sure your marriage is strong and stable. Leadership takes enough heat without internal strife at home. But even if you have been involved with a divorce, God still loves and accepts you and will work with you to fulfil his will in your life. Yes the bible says God hates divorce, but there is a reason. Jerm 3: 8 states he divorced Israel. God gave them a writ of divorcement for breaking covenant. If God can divorce, and you can not, then it means he is double minded. Nope, not so! . If you follow that scripture and its references you will find over and over that God did divorce Israel because they broke the covenant. It’s why he hates divorce, not the divorcee. We all know now that all men can come to God through Christ and that includes the Jews who God divorced. He has now established a new covenant. Read Jer 31: 31. By all this I mean the following. Yes God hates divorce and his very best is not to have it happen. However, through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, the sin of divorce was paid for. There are many people who have been divorced and they did not want one. They can still be pastors; they can still serve in the church. The thing that really angers me, these same hypocritical pastors and boards who reject the divorced, will still take there tithe, expect them to work in the church, yet they reject them because of some stupid religious standard men set up! God never said you could not serve in the church. Please do not quote me I or II Tim or Titus. It’s speaking to a society that endorsed multiple wives not divorce. All its saying is you must be married to one wife, nothing to do with divorce. Sad to say, you can commit murder and the darn church will parade you around and say oh look, he gave his life back to Christ and use you to testify, yet get a divorce and you are treated as a leper. I am not divorced been married 33 years, but I have a heart for those who have endured the foolishness of men. Go with Gods grace and peace brother and love the people as Christ loved the church. Trucker |
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Again, excellent! I am not divorced been married 25 years, but I have a heart for those who have endured the foolishness of men. Go with Gods grace and peace brother and love the people as Christ loved the church. Amen |
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