144,000 - Page 3 - Talk Jesus

jiggyfly · 11-21-08

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Originally Posted by 4Jesus

Brother Jiggyfly,
I am in full unity with you on this point. However, do I sense you making an oblique suggestion that I am puffed up with unspiritual knowledge?
Your brother in Jesus
David.

Not at all, brother, as a matter of fact I think the oposite of you and the others who have posted on this thread. I was just speaking from my own experiences with some who have desired to understand the book of Revelation for the only purpose of knowing the events of the future. I made comment about the unfruitful knowledge to warn each individual so they can check their motive, that's all.

Eve · 04-01-08

Brother David,

I don't think that is what Jiggyfly is saying at all.

God Bless

Eve

edit (sorry JF I didn't see the following page and didn't realise you had already replied)

4Jesus · 08-06-06

God bless you my precious brother Jiggyfly; let me explain. If you had discerned me in that light I would have thanked you for your honest sharing it with me and thus prompting me to take it to the Lord for a cleansing. We all fall short and we need to sometimes recieve graceful and loving rebuke, correction and encouragment - it is very scriptural!

Bless you again brother
David

p.s. I would much rather you judge the rights and wrongs of anything I may do or fail to do. I would much rather fall into your hands; the hands of a true brother in Jesus, than into the Hands of the Living God; it is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God. (Hebrews 10:31)

Eve · 04-01-08

Dear all,

Your little sister is bowing out of this one to let you boys continue with your discussion. Peace be with you.

God Bless

Eve

Gihon · 10-03-08

David: Is the book of Revelation about spiritual Israel or racial Israel?

Deelo · 09-15-06

Wow, I cannot comprehend all of this, but I am glad you posted it. Thanks!

Gihon · 10-03-08

Ok...I'm asking anyone, now:

Is the book of Revelation about spiritual Israel or racial Israel?

DanV · 09-04-06

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Originally Posted by Gihon

Ok...I'm asking anyone, now:
Is the book of Revelation about spiritual Israel or racial Israel?

It seems that the Book of Revelation is not about 'spiritual' nor 'racial' Israel but rather is based on, or is a fuller explanation of, Christ's Discourse on Things to Come - Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. It also abounds in expressions used by Jesus. Some of its imagery seems to be drawn from Ezekiel and Daniel.

It is also a Very Practical Book. Even though it is a book of Mystery, with many things we do not understand, it also has Many Things we Do Understand.

Imbedded in its Mystery Imagery are some of the most Salutary Warnings and most Precious Promises of all Scripture.

Very likely John himself did not understand some of the things he saw and wrote. No doubt, God had meaning in some of the Visions that were to be revealed only with the unfolding story of the passing ages. Nevertheless John's soul thrilled with exultation, as he mind dwelt on what he saw.

Alternating simplest truth with mysterious symbolism, it is a book of undiluted Optimism for God's people, assuring us again and again that we are under God's protection, with, come what may, a Life of Everlasting Blessedness ahead.

And, alternating scenes between earth and heaven, it is also a book of the "Wrath of God," ever contrasting the Joys of the Redeemed with the Agonies of the Lost. And O how we need to be reminded of that in this careless and godless generation!

Now concerning the 144,000.

Chapter 7:1-8, coming between the Sixth and Seventh Seals, seems to be a part of the Sixth Seal, contrasting the Happy Lot of the Elect with the Fearful Doom of the World out of which they were called, as described in the closing verses of chapter 6.

144,000 is the square of 12, multiplied a thousandfold, and is thought to be understood, not numerically, but symbolically, representing the Sum Total of the Elect of Israel, the Firstfruits of the Gospel, or, the Sum Total of Christians.

"The Four Winds" - Chap. 7:1-3, seem to be the agencies of the Lamb's Wrath, mentioned in Chap. 6:16, and identical with the Seven Trumpets soon to follow, held back till the Sealing of the Elect is finished.

"The Sealing of God's Servants" - Chap. 7:3, seems to refer to the process of Evangelization going on, in the Roman Empire, before it fell, or, in the Whole World, throughout the Whole Course of History, before the Final Day of the Lamb's Wrath.

Hope this helps.

God Bless,

DanV

CrazyForChrist · 11-19-08

wow, i couldnt help but read all of what David said. Amazing. But im a little concerned for i have a bad understanding about something. David, you said it is fearfull to fall into the hands of God. And i also read we should fear our Lord God. Now im not argueing, im just very ignorant on this matter and would love some one to please explain it. It is kind of scary for how could i fear to be in His hands or how can i be afraid of Him that shares so much love with me?

Chad · 11-21-08

If I'm not mistaken, "falling into the hands of the living GOD" refers to GOD's judgment.

Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

All people are not excused from the judgment of GOD. The only way around this is accepting and believing Jesus Christ as Savior, sacrifice for all sins paid on the Cross. Any sins uncovered by the blood results in judgment at the day of judgment.

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