Michael74: You need to repent of the crude and abrasive attitude you took toward member Janette in this post. I strongly suggest that you review the Forum Rules that pertain to conduct toward other members. Courtesy is required here in ALL posts.

SLE

Christian or non-Christian, abortion (except to save the life of the mother) is murder and, therefore, is sin. The issue is simple. What is tough is having the courage to do what is right under God's Law, even if we have to suffer consequences at the hand of family, friends, employers, etc.

"Then Jesus said to His disciples, 'If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.'" (Mt 16:24)

SLE

Hi cjl,
I look at it this way. Person A attacks me and injures me. You live at person A's house so I kill you because he attacked me.

It cannot be called right to kill the child because of the sin of the rapist.
Rape itself doesn't even come with a death penalty in North America, but we have no problem killing a child over it.

I think that God looks out for all his children, even when they are aborted they are with Him in heaven. I didn't really know the nature or the extent of what God felt on abortion.

It shouldn't be just about saving the baby, but thats the focus of many. What about the woman thats had an abortion? Chances are, she is dying inside. She feels guilt and shame and hides her secret. Chances are she feels completely alone. Chances are she's afraid to share her secret because she will face critisism and judgement, and even more so from the people claiming to be christians and church goers.

Women have abortions for a whole host of reasons....it doesn't make it right, but its something you will never truly understand until you've faced an unplanned or crisis pregnancy. Women have abortions because the man involved forces them to. Women have abortions because of fear and the unknown. Women have abortions because to them at that moment, that is the only way to protect her baby from an abusive father. Women have abortions because of certain people in their lives.

I agree abortion isn't right, but don't judge the woman that has had one, or two, or three, or four, or more abortions. Love and accept her and help her get to the point of where god wants her to be. Help her to learn to accept god's forgiveness and learn to forgive herself. Chances are, she hates herself for the decisions she's made. She doesn't need your judgement and critical spirit to add to that.

You don't have to understand to be able to listen, love, and accept. We all have skeletons in our closets if we are totally honest with ourselves. No one is better than another. No one is better than another just because they say "I would never have an abortion". Aren't we all sinners and since jesus died for sinners, then we are all the same in god's eyes right? No matter if you've had 10 abortions or if you've stolen from your employer or if you've told a lie trying to protect a friend or for any other reason. We are all the same....sinners.

One in 3 women will have an abortion by the time she is 45 yrs old. So that means that pretty much everyone is affected by abortion, even though you may not know someone thats had one. You prolly know someone thats had an abortion, but she is too afraid to tell you. These women are sitting next to you in YOUR church, they are your co-workers, your siblings, your cousins, your friends. How are you going to respond when/if they share their deep dark secret with YOU? Yes a baby died with an abortion, but so did the woman that had it done. The baby you can't bring back, but the woman can be if you love her with the love of Jesus.

I agree with those saying that abortion is wrong. It is. BUT let's not forget there are more than just the baby at hand here. There's the baby, the woman, the man, their familes, their friends. This is not a simple thing. Yes, abortion is WRONG. No matter how you see it...whether the baby was conceived by rape, incest, or otherwise...aborting the baby is wrong. This is an emotionally high issue.

What about the baby? What about the woman? What about the man? Have we been listening? Could be the man doesn't want his girlfriend to have the abortion, but she does...then what?

Once something is done, Jesus can pick the pieces up. Jesus is the Savior...not me. Jesus can change lives...if we let him. That is the key. Taking the hand of those who are in need...who are suffering and leading them to Jesus.

Take my hand...my friend. I know where you can get what you need. He is the Great Physician. He is the Healer. He will make everything okay. Just reach out your hand...and he'll carry you. Let Jesus do what he is the best at doing. Let Jesus fix them.

You are right.

God is a God of Mercy to those who have fallen into the sin of murder through abortion.

However, it is human pride that keeps them from turning to Jesus to have that sin covered over and wiped away by the Blood.

Love the sinner, Hate the sin, Say the truth, i always say.

Its human pride that keeps anyone from turning to Jesus to have any sin covered over and wiped away by the blood. Not just abortion. Abortion is the same as any other sin to god. Sin is sin and whether you've had 10 abortions or just stole a cookie out of the cookie jar, you need a savior. Don't judge someone just because they've had an abortion. You aren't any better than them just because you haven't had one, if you haven't.

Even Christians have abortions. Its the honest truth.

can you claim to be a christian and commit murder?abortion is murder.it's as simple as that,and it beats me how anyone could think otherwise.