Well lets not forget, an angel filled Mary in on everything. And Mary did not die giving birth to Jesus.
Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to disprove anything, I'm just lookin for answers :)

Originally Posted by xv2000

Well lets not forget, an angel filled Mary in on everything. And Mary did not die giving birth to Jesus.
Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to disprove anything, I'm just lookin for answers :)

Many have experienced what you have written in your previous posts (You wrote What if you/your wife get(s) raped, you/she conceive(s), and giving birth will kill you/her? You/She have/has done nothing wrong, but neither has the baby. I can't imagine anyone having to tell their wife that they'd rather her die )

Your not the only one, if truly you did, experienced that. I know that does not relate to what you want, but I dont know if your just asking a hypothetical question .
But we live in a fallen world in which our victory is in Christ Jesus as our Lord.
You should ask "What would Jesus do in my position if all I said was true?"
But please explain yourself better so we can relate to your dilemma in any thing you are asking.

Originally Posted by shipwrecksoul

Many have experienced what you have written in your previous posts (You wrote What if you/your wife get(s) raped, you/she conceive(s), and giving birth will kill you/her? You/She have/has done nothing wrong, but neither has the baby. I can't imagine anyone having to tell their wife that they'd rather her die )

Your not the only one, if truly you did, experienced that. I know that does not relate to what you want, but I dont know if your just asking a hypothetical question .
But we live in a fallen world in which our victory is in Christ Jesus as our Lord.
You should ask "What would Jesus do in my position if all I said was true?"
But please explain yourself better so we can relate to your dilemma in any thing you are asking.

Ah, yes sorry. My situation was purely hypothetical. And it was just a simple set up, there's not much information I can add.
Funny thing "What would Jesus do in my position if all I said was true?"
I'd say he would preform a miracle and have them both live somehow. Seems like something Jesus would do.

Originally Posted by xv2000

Ah, yes sorry. My situation was purely hypothetical. And it was just a simple set up, there's not much information I can add.
Funny thing "What would Jesus do in my position if all I said was true?"
I'd say he would preform a miracle and have them both live somehow. Seems like something Jesus would do.

Heeeyy, then what your telling me is you just wanted an itchy ear answer to appease your academic understanding and not the practical way in Gods power through Christ Jesus the Lord within your heart for a real need to be met by God. WoW! That's not fair!
Sounds like most in the so-called church today!
Abortion is a real issue that many who have taken are now hurt in their conscious who need real healing from God not an academic issue to have a right argument to ones theological stance!
People are hurting because they listened to the god of this world.
If you are one reading this right now, not referring to xv2000, God loves you and wants to bring healing to your life to the decision you made that you knew is wrong. And I suggest you contact the administrator of this forum, Chad, to direct you to someone who can help you through Christ!

Originally Posted by shipwrecksoul

Heeeyy, then what your telling me is you just wanted an itchy ear answer to appease your academic understanding and not the practical way in Gods power through Christ Jesus the Lord within your heart for a real need to be met by God. WoW! That's not fair!
Sounds like most in the so-called church today!
Abortion is a real issue that many who have taken are now hurt in their conscious who need real healing from God not an academic issue to have a right argument to ones theological stance!
People are hurting because they listened to the god of this world.
If you are one reading this right now, not referring to xv2000, God loves you and wants to bring healing to your life to the decision you made that you knew is wrong. And I suggest you contact the administrator of this forum, Chad, to direct you to someone who can help you through Christ!

I'm sorry for demeaning it to an academic standpoint, really. Its just that my girlfriend asked this question before and I was just thinking about it, and the situation scared me. I was hoping to find scripture to lead me in the right direction. Sorry if I offended anyone.

I feel that life is life in the womb or out of the womb,when a baby is born premature its taken care of looked after,so why is those who choose abortion still allowed to have their baaby murdered.Abortion is murder because the child is a life even though he/she is unborn.

To me the topic of abortion is pretty clear. by answering one question it should become clear to others as well. Here is the Question:

Who creates life, God or satan?

satan can't create life, never could, never will. It is only God who creates life, and allows life.
therefore if a person becomes pregnant (for whatever reason) it is only because God creates life, and He is going to bestow upon that person the gift of life. If then we KNOW to be true that God creates life and only He does it, whey do we go about to destroy what God is trying to create through abortions?

^i^

Psalm 139:13-16
13. For thou hast possessed my reigns: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.

14. I will praise thee; marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

15. My substance was not hid from thee when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members where written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

God says he writes the name of the baby in his book when it is still without form. Do you understand? When the baby still has no hands or feet or head, God says it is an individual and he writes it down in his book.

Everyone can help in this area concerning the lives of children being lost through abortion. This act cannot be shrugged off, nor can it be ignored. This needs action if it is to be stopped. Many can help donate to their local crisis pregnancy center which is non-profit. These centers help counsel women against having an abortion. They also offer services concerning financial assistance, child raising resources, and adoption referrals. People can also volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center. They hold Bible studies where they show them God's love for the mother and the child. By volunteering or donating money, you are saving a child's life. Educating your friends will also help, as many people are deceived about abortion and are led to believe that it is the easy way out. If you are unable to donate money or time, donating your knowledge helps wonders. Knowledge is power in many of these instances and knowledge of God's Word and of how abortion hurts the mother and child will change someone's opinion and help them be concerned as well.

After the Ireland case lots of things had changes in the Christian world.