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    Gay Christian

    "Is it possible to be a gay Christian?"

    “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

    There is a tendency to declare homosexuality as the worst of all sins. While it is undeniable, biblically speaking, that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural (Romans 1:26-27), in no sense does the Bible describe homosexuality as an unforgivable sin. Nor does the Bible teach that homosexuality is a sin Christians will never struggle against.

    Perhaps that is the key phrase in the question of whether it is possible to be a gay Christian: “struggle against.” It is possible for a Christian to struggle with homosexual temptations. Many homosexuals who become Christians have ongoing struggles with homosexual feelings and desires. Some strongly heterosexual men and women have experienced a “spark” of homosexual interest at some point in their lives. Whether or not these desires and temptations exist does not determine whether a person is a Christian. The Bible is clear that no Christian is sinless (1 John 1:8,10). While the specific sin / temptation varies from one Christian to another, all Christians have struggles with sin, and all Christians sometimes fail in those struggles (1 Corinthians 10:13).

    What differentiates a Christian’s life from a non-Christian’s life is the struggle against sin. The Christian life is a progressive journey of overcoming the “acts of the flesh” (Galatians 5:19-21), and allowing God’s Spirit to produce the “fruit of the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22-23). Yes, Christians sin, sometimes horribly. Sadly, sometimes Christians are indistinguishable from non-Christians. However, a true Christian will always repent, will always eventually return to God, and will always resume the struggle against sin. But the Bible gives no support for the idea that a person who perpetually and unrepentantly engages in sin can indeed be a Christian. Notice 1 Corinthians 6:11, "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

    First Corinthians 6:9-10 lists sins that, if indulged in continuously, identify a person as not being redeemed—not being a Christian. Often, homosexuality is singled out from this list. If a person struggles with homosexual temptations, that person is presumed to be unsaved. If a person actually engages in homosexual acts, that person is definitely thought to be unsaved. However, the same assumptions are not made, at least not with the same emphasis, regarding other sins in the list: fornication (pre-marital sex), idolatry, adultery, thievery, covetousness, alcoholism, slander, and deceit. It is inconsistent, for example, to declare those guilty of pre-marital sex as “disobedient Christians,” while declaring homosexuals as definitively non-Christians.

    Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who struggles against homosexual desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian” is possible. However, the description “gay Christian” is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,” but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing. If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives a homosexual lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.

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    Lev 18:22 'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

    Lev 20:13'If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

    Gen 19:5 and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them."
    Gen 19:6 But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him,
    Gen 19:7 and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.
    Gen 19:8 "Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."

    Gen 19:12 Then the two men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place;
    Gen 19:13 for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the LORD that the LORD has sent us to destroy it."

    Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven,

    Rom 1:26 For this reason God allowed their shameful passions to control them. Their women have exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
    Rom 1:27 Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the punishment they deserve for their perversion.

    Rom 1:32 Although they know God's judgment that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do these things but also approve of others who do them.

    NOTICE: It says not only those who do these things, but even if you merely approve of others doing it, you are just as guilty!

    1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

    μαλακός
    malakos; a prim. word; soft, effeminate: - effeminate (1), soft (3).

    1Ti 1:9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers
    1Ti 1:10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching,

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    a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind
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    Chad, thank you so much for posting this. So many of my Christian friends think that homosexuality is the greatest sin a person can commit. When I tell them that sex outside of marriage and adultery are just as sinful, they think I'm crazy. They think if a boyfriend and girlfriend have sex but aren't married, it's ok. I'll be sure and save this for later reference.
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    "Is it possible to be a gay Christian?
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    Absolutely not. We have to conform to biblical instruction to be followers of Jesus. Such sexual relationships, and all other sexual relationships, beyond the pale of scripture, are an abomination to God and a forerunner to the decline of any nation.
    Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"......Without the WAY there is no GOING, without the TRUTH there is no KNOWING without the LIFE there is no LIVING....Thats what Jesus said.

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    what i believe

    i believe that we all struggle in sin reguardless, sin is sin. There is no one greater than the other. Homosexuality is no different from lying or stealing they are all the same. However i do believe that we will continually struggle throughout or lives with sin but as children of God He has given us the strength to overcome. i believe it is the unwillingness that will keep us from salvation we are called to change and if we truely belong to Christ we will desire that change and over time we will overcome and maybe not all but most, as i said we will always struggle with sin but through the conviction of the HolySpirit we will desire that change. If you become homosexual after you have been saved, one shall question that salvation but if you have become a christian after homosexuality I believe you can be a christian who is slowly overcoming his or her sin. Christ did not say come to me after you have changed your way of life, He said come to me now as you are For we overcome sin through Him. As christians we are all a work in progress.

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    Good article Chad, bible thumpers seem to reason that homosexual sin is far worse than other sins. Yet they protect people like Jimmy Swaggart who was a liar and adulterer.

    Proverbs 6:16-19
    16* These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17*A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
    18*An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    19*A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    Pride is the cause in every case, it reminds me of a story that Jesus told.

    Luke 18:9-14
    9*Then Jesus told this story to some who had great self-confidence and scorned everyone else: 10*“Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. 11*The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: ‘I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don’t sin, I don’t commit adultery, 12*I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’
    13*“But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ 14*I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For the proud will be humbled, but the humble will be honored.”
    Religion is an ugly tyrant.

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    [quote=Chad;116173]"Is it possible to be a gay Christian?"

    “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

    There is a tendency to declare homosexuality as the worst of all sins. While it is undeniable, biblically speaking, that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural (Romans 1:26-27), in no sense does the Bible describe homosexuality as an unforgivable sin. Nor does the Bible teach that homosexuality is a sin Christians will never struggle against.

    Thank you Chad, the scripture says it all; quite clearly and discreet. Some people still choose to close an eye upon these wordings. They shall reap what they sowe.
    Do not tell me nonsense that it is something one is born with for I will despise you for you chose the path to destruction, but rather tell me that it is the influence of past experiences-a mental wrong done to man, and maybe I shall pray for you that you be saved.

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    [QUOTE=scofieldII;124711]
    Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    "Is it possible to be a gay Christian?"

    “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

    There is a tendency to declare homosexuality as the worst of all sins. While it is undeniable, biblically speaking, that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural (Romans 1:26-27), in no sense does the Bible describe homosexuality as an unforgivable sin. Nor does the Bible teach that homosexuality is a sin Christians will never struggle against.

    Thank you Chad, the scripture says it all; quite clearly and discreet. Some people still choose to close an eye upon these wordings. They shall reap what they sowe.
    Do not tell me nonsense that it is something one is born with for I will despise you for you chose the path to destruction, but rather tell me that it is the influence of past experiences-a mental wrong done to man, and maybe I shall pray for you that you be saved.
    Good scripture reference ScofieldII, what makes one righteous enough to inherit the kingdom of God?
    Religion is an ugly tyrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scofieldII View Post
    Do not tell me nonsense that it is something one is born with for I will despise you for you chose the path to destruction, but rather tell me that it is the influence of past experiences-a mental wrong done to man, and maybe I shall pray for you that you be saved.
    I agree that it is nonsense to claim that people are born to be homosexual. However, I'm bothered by your use of the word despise in describing your attitude toward people who adopt that belief. You appear to condemn the people involved; an unloving, unChristian attitude. Condemnation of people is God's function, not ours.

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    Born with Tendencies

    I do think some people are born with homosexual tendencies.
    Obviously, or else why would there be homosexuals?

    But there are also born liars, born theives, born killers, child molesters, rapists, etc....

    The point being, even though you might be born with a particular tendency, or desire to do a certain thing, that doesn't make it right.
    The Bible says we are all born into sin.

    Now while we might all agree that murderers and child molesters are things we don't agree with, and people we don't want to associate with, the closest thing I can find to this is... 1Cor 15:33

    Yet in todays society it is OK to associate with homosexuals, it's even promoted in newspapers, television, movies, and even political platforms. Interestlingy enough the Bible specifically singles out homosexuals as people we should not approve of their behavior.
    (Rom 1:32) or else we are just as guilty as those who do it.
    Now I believe in love the sinner and hate the sin, we just need to be sure we know what the sin is, and not just brush it under the carpet just because society says it's OK.
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