Originally Posted by Rain

Chad;

is another possible reason some Christians are anti contraception due to the questionable nature of some forms of contraception. For example the 'morning after pill' - the purpose of which being to cause the womb to reject any possible implantation of a fertilized egg? Even just the regular 'pill' has -not- yet been proven to -not- contain chemicals and chemical combinations which act similarly to abortifacients (substances which induce an abortion).

I agree with you Rain. When I read more about how the pill works I decided to stop using it. It is a matter of when life actually starts. I believe it starts the moment the egg is fertilized.

Originally Posted by Rene

Originally Posted by Rain View Post Chad; is another possible reason some Christians are anti contraception due to the questionable nature of some forms of contraception. For example the 'morning after pill' - the purpose of which being to cause the womb to reject any possible implantation of a fertilized egg? Even just the regular 'pill' has -not- yet been proven to -not- contain chemicals and chemical combinations which act similarly to abortifacients (substances which induce an abortion).

THE PILL
There are two basic kinds of hormonal birth control pills: (1) the combination pill which is made up of two synthetic hormones (estrogen and progestin) and (2) the progestin-only pill (sometimes called the minipill). The synthetic estrogen in the combination pill works to prevent the ovaries from releasing an egg. If no egg is released, there is nothing to be fertilized by sperm and the woman cannot get pregnant. In addition, the synthetic estrogen works by suppressing the body's normal hormonal pattern (which involves one egg being developed per menstrual cycle and released for possible fertilization).
The synthetic progestin (present in both types of pills) works to:

• thicken the cervical mucus, which hinders the movement of sperm,
• inhibit the egg's ability to travel through the fallopian tubes,
• partially suppress the sperm's ability to unite with (and thereby fertilize) the egg, and
• alter the uterine lining so (in the event that an egg is released and fertilized) the egg will likely not be able to implant into the uterine wall. (A fertilized egg would then be discharged with the rest of the menstrual blood.)

because of the last statement i believe that the pill is wrong..personally..life is created as soon as the egg is fertilized.

THE NEEDLE(DEPO PROVERA)

Medroxyprogesterone is a form of progesterone, a female hormone that prevents ovulation (the release of an egg from an ovary). This medication also causes changes in your cervical mucus and uterine lining, making it harder for sperm to reach the uterus and harder for a fertilized egg to attach to the uterus.

this can also allow an egg to be fertilized...............

IUD

The pregnancy rate during IUD use is very low (less than 1% per year). If pregnancy does occur, the IUD should be removed. Although IUDs are not teratogenic presence of the IUD increases the risk of miscarriage,particularly during the second trimester. It also increases the risk of premature delivery. Although the D.S. IUD was associated with septic abortions (infections associated with miscarriage), other brands of IUD are not. IUDs are also not associated with birth defects or other pregnancy complication

IUD's can allow pregnancy to occur as well and can then allow miscarriage's if not removed!!

THE PATCH

The hormones in the patch also thicken the cervical mucus (the mucus produced by cells in the cervix). The cervix is the part of the uterus that sits within the vagina and acts as the opening to the uterus. This makes it difficult for sperm to enter the uterus and reach any eggs that may have been released. The hormones in the patch can also sometimes affect the lining of the uterus so that if the egg is fertilized it will have a hard time attaching to the wall of the uterus.

and again with the patch!!until recently i was blind to these facts..but personally..i will not take' any form of birth control ever again..other than the barrier method.
in the cases of taking birth control because of health problems that is a different story..of course if my life depended on taking them i would.GBU all!!

Thanks for that info Daizy! Even if there is a 0,1% chance that a fertilized egg might be unnaturally aborted, I won't use it. Except also if I had to use it because of health problems and my life depended on it.

Originally Posted by Rene

Thanks for that info Daizy! Even if there is a 0,1% chance that a fertilized egg might be unnaturally aborted, I won't use it. Except also if I had to use it because of health problems and my life depended on it.

no problem:) i like to make sure that people have all the facts before jumping into something as i did..i used different forms of birth control for over 11 years of my life..and now wonder how many fertilized eggs my body discarded..i only recently learned about what really happens.it's shocking actually.

Originally Posted by Chad

Is Birth Control a Sin?
Some will argue that the command to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ found in Genesis 1:28 argues against the use of contraceptives. However, at best this demonstrates that we have an obligation to have children, it does not prove that we should have as many kids as possible or that we should never use contraceptives. This is simply inconclusive.

Other Arguments Against Contraceptives
Some claim that use of birth control is inherently disrespectful to the marriage union, it fails to take into account the fact that children are a blessing from God, and it separates procreation from sex (which is supposedly sinful). In addition to being speculative, these objections fail to show that contraception is always wrong. After all, some may decide to use birth control to stop from having more kids for the time being due to a financial situation or some other factor. Birth control does not necessarily entail that a couple never has kids, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that they have to stop having kids. Obviously, a couple who use birth control within the confines of marriage are not implicitly demonstrating that they don’t believe children are a blessing from God. They may just not be ready yet, or they may already have ten children and be unable to support more.

Question here,
Would using birth control so I won't ever have children count as sin against God?

Originally Posted by Mouse

Question here,
Would using birth control so I won't ever have children count as sin against God?

Good question Mouse.


If a man goes into the clergy and will therefore never have children,
how then is it sin, for a woman who goes through life and never has children?


I think you get my point.

LoJ

Originally Posted by Mouse

Question here,
Would using birth control so I won't ever have children count as sin against God?

Considering Scripture (our authority in all matters pertaining to faith - not science books, human reasoning, or common consensus) gives no instruction regarding birth control, this is the only Scripture I would answer your question with:

Rom 14:22 As for the faith you do have, have it as your own conviction before God. How blessed is the person who has no reason to condemn himself because of what he approves!

Blessings

Actually, we are commanded in Genesis, to "go forth and multiply".
(Gen 1:28) This isn't just a suggestion or afterthought. While I don't think NOT having children will keep you out of heaven, it is God's will that we do this.
So many people today put their careers and education or other things before having children. I think this yet another argument against homosexuality.
It is a sign of the time that more and more "young professionals" choose not to get married or have children. Because...
"I don't have time for a marriage or children"
"Children are so much trouble and expensive"
"Childbirth is painful"

God does make allowances for those unable to have children (Gal 4:27)

1Tim 2:15 (God's Word Translation)
However, she [and all women] will be saved through the birth of the child, if they lead respectable lives in faith, love, and holiness.

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1Tim 4:1 The Spirit says clearly that in later times some believers will desert the Christian faith. They will follow spirits that deceive, and they will believe the teachings of demons. 2 These people will speak lies disguised as truth. Their consciences have been scarred as if branded by a red-hot iron. 3 They will try to stop others from getting married and from eating certain foods. God created food to be received with prayers of thanks by those who believe and know the truth.

Romans 1:
24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:
25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.

Again, I think part of the reason we were created, was to have children. Not having children is... "going against nature".

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Originally Posted by Rene

Thanks for that info Daizy! Even if there is a 0,1% chance that a fertilized egg might be unnaturally aborted, I won't use it. Except also if I had to use it because of health problems and my life depended on it.

Let me ask ya'll a few questions about that. First, are you aware that it is by no means certain that a fertilized egg will implant without any birth control? In light of this, do you consider other things that may cause a fertilized egg not to implant abortion? For example, caffeine, lack of sleep, stress, certain foods, illness, and a slew of over the counter and prescription medications can change hormone balances and cause a similarly tiny increase in the chance of a fertilized egg failing to implant. Would you similarly reject these things as abortifacent?