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    Print a barcode on every baby!

    I watch this video podcast called tech news today (as i'm a tech geek) and they talked about an episode of a BBC version of "60 Seconds" where a sci-fi author talked about slapping a barcode or implant a chip on every baby at birth. Only reason why i posted this here is because of the book of revelations speaking of a mark called "The Mark of the beast" where only those that have it will be able to buy and sell anything. So i googled about the author saying this and i came across this article and she speaks on the advantages of such a mark, To me it seems like the mental conditioning for such a thing is occurring although such mental conditioning has been going on for years. I won't be surprise with the shape of this world and the economies of the world is slowly collapsing that the media will start covering this as the years go by and as the global economy gets worse.


    As part of the BBC's "60-second idea" series, science fiction author Elizabeth Moon is making a case for slapping a barcode on every person at birth. In a digital world where a good majority of our interactions are anonymous, it's a stifling thought. So, why's she for it?
    "If I were empress of the Universe," begins Moon, as all musings about the future should begin, "I would insist on every individual having a unique ID permanently attached — a barcode if you will; an implanted chip to provide an easy, fast inexpensive way to identify individuals."

    In general, citizens of modern nations already have barcodes on them. We have government-issued identification cards in the form of a photo ID or driver's license. The difference? You get to pick where you use it, for the most part. It'll let you do things if you want, such as fly on a plane or buy alcohol. It will also help identify you during an accident or emergency, and helps law enforcement sort the populace.
    What Moon writes about is more than that:
    Having such a unique barcode would have many advantages. In war soldiers could easily differentiate legitimate targets in a population from non combatants. This could prevent mistakes in identity, mistakes that result in the deaths of innocent bystanders. Weapons systems would record the code of the use, identifying how fired which shot and leading to more accountability in the field.
    Anonymity would be impossible as would mistaken identity making it easier to place responsibility accurately, not only in war but also in non-combat situations far from the war."
    Of course, a 60-second thought isn't supposed to provide the answer, just the idea. So here's the question now: is this a system just waiting to be abused by a government to control a populace, or would transparency and accountability lead to better interactions both online and off?

    Another article i came across published on the 1st of june spoke of such implants being made now.

    Barcodes and microchips could be found on nearly everything these days, but could humans be next?

    American science fiction author Elizabeth Moon raised a few eyebrows last week when she revived the debate about whether it could be beneficial to place barcodes on babies at birth during an interview on a BBC radio program.

    ‘I would insist on every individual having a unique ID permanently attached — a barcode if you will — an implanted chip to provide an easy, fast inexpensive way to identify individuals,’ she said on a weekly show called The Forum, according to the New York Daily News.


    According to Moon, aged 67, the tools that are currently used for the purposes of surveillance and identification, such as video cameras and DNA testing, are too slow and expensive.

    Placing a barcode on each person at birth, in her opinion, would solve these problems.

    While the technology is already in place, civil liberties advocates have decried past efforts to make ‘barcoding’ a reality, claiming that it would create an Orwellian society devoid of privacy where ‘Big Brother’ is always watching.


    ‘To have a record of everywhere you go and everything you do would be a frightening thing,’ Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union, told the New York Daily News.

    Even without the barcodes, governments have an ever-expanding array of tools at their disposal to track people. Since 2006, new U.S. passports include radio frequency identification tags (RFID) that store all the information in the passport, as well as a digital picture of the owner.

    In 2002, an implantable ID chip called VeriChip was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. When scanned, the chip could pull up a 16-digit number containing information about the user.

    The program was scrapped in 2010 amid concerns about privacy and safety, but other companies have since come forward, offering similar products.

    The biotech company MicroCHIPS has developed an implantable chip to deliver medicine to people on schedule and without injection, while the technology company BIOPTid has patented a non-invasive method of identification called the ‘human barcode.’


    Advocates of futuristic identification methods say the barcode could help parents or caregivers keep track of children and the elderly.

    Chips, they claim, could be used to easily access medical records, and would make going through security at airports and train stations more convenient to the travellers, who are now forced to stand on lines and go through scanners.


    But in a world where no computer network is impenetrable, as it has been proven once again recently when a group of hackers known as Anonymous claimed responsibility for attacks on the U.S. Department of Justice and Indian government websites, critics are wondering, what would happen if someone could access your personal ID chip?

    ‘We can have security, we can have convenience, and we can have privacy,’ Stanley said. ‘We can have our cake and eat it too.’
    What are your 2 cents?

    For links to the articles pm me.
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    The idea seems good, BUT, as time goes on it would morph into some very undesirable things. Information technology is subject to serious abuse in the hands of people with unholy motives.

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    I've heard of the chip thing before. I'm not really sure if it would be considered the mark of the beast. It is way for what they would say...make things easier to keep track of us and easier with dealing with theft and using it for money or w.e they are doing. But I think the mark of the beast implies more to people agreeing to worship the beast if you should agree to get the mark

    “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.” Revelation 14:9,10

    But then you have a point of the buy/sell part.

    “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17

    It is a bit confusing but both statements seem clear. I guess if it comes down to people getting stamped or you cannot live basically (no buying food) then God give us strength to resist and hope that he provides for us in some way for following his word which I have faith he will...for we are doing his will and not the beast.

    Other things to look for is the beast names. It says that the beast will have 666 names. All which appeal to each person on earth ie. Jesus Christ for Christians. if you receive any of the names of the beast as a mark...it is the mark of the beast. Jesus would not ask you to mark yourself. It will be the beast. Still new to reading the bible...but this is what I have came across reading. I'm sure others have more input.
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    I used to get freaked out about a lot of things that relate to forthcoming prophecy. Then I realized that these things must and will happen either way, just as Christ said so Himself (Matthew 24:6). He practically gave us not only a warning of what's to come, but reassured us that He is with us til' the end of age (Matthew 28:20).

    These things will just happen, no matter how bad they are, and we as Christians who read the Word know that things will get worst in the end times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    I used to get freaked out about a lot of things that relate to forthcoming prophecy. Then I realized that these things must and will happen either way, just as Christ said so Himself (Matthew 24:6). He practically gave us not only a warning of what's to come, but reassured us that He is with us til' the end of age (Matthew 28:20).

    These things will just happen, no matter how bad they are, and we as Christians who read the Word know that things will get worst in the end times.
    Amen and amen.


    So true, that is why in Luke 21:5-36 speaking about the last days, the Lord Jesus Christ told us to watch and pray so that we may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that we may be able to stand before the Son of Man.
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