Thanks Mark! Excellent information.

The knocking Realm!! First thanks so much Peace SEEKER!! I was a bit concerned writing this,that some may be upset a little by its boldness! It was sure not meant to be taken in that light! I will explain about this Realm of prayer. In the asking and seeking realm,as we first come into the courts of God with praise and thanksgiving, in the asking realm,this takes time,because in this the first of 3 realms we are dealing also with our shortcoming for the day,those things we have done, that we know the Lord is not pleased with,an unkind word to another,or some other short coming we all have.

Here we are preparing our mind for the seeking Realm,a time to after we have washed ourselfs by and through our Jesus through his Blood! We are now ready to seek! Now in this realm,the devil is reminding us,to perhaps go back to asking!!LOL But are you sure you are forgiven?? You know you have done this much more then once today!! Ah perhaps you are not worthy to even be heard!! LOL

After we get to have the assurance of things even hoped for!!( heb 11:1) After we rest our minds in the fact that Jesus is always are only hope!!!( rom 15:13) now at least!!! we can get to the seeking realm!! Here we are letting Holy Spirit remove our doubt!! The devil is fighting us here as well! He does not want us to ever get to the knocking realm!!!!

Now let us say you are ready!! You have pushed the devil aside,by speaking even out loud scripture!! Jesus did it!! look at Matt 4! NOW!!! You are knocking!! Meaning you have the very assurance that Jesus not only hears you,but!! will open the door to answer you!! The door opens!! The devil flees!!

Now here you have stepped in the Holy of Holy The presence of our Living God surrounds you,as well as Holy Spirit in you! You mind has been cleared,your tongue has spoken what is true, from His Word,you are ready to hear! And lo and behold!! God has must more to speak unto you, then you ever thought he would!

Mostly inside, but audible is not out of the question here!! It just depends on the person at the time,God deals with each one of us, as we need him to! I place no limits on how he will speak,just that he sure will speak!! Now the mind is not even thinking of the doubt fought so hard for in the asking and seeking realm! Here doubt does no even come to mind!

Hope fought for in the seeking realm, is here now! And now!! finally!! After we have worked so very hard,our time to God has paid off in such a big way! You see God Knows!! But he waits to see if we do!! And we know we do,by what we do!! confidence in the day of judgment!! same! ( 1 John 3:19-24!!)

We now stand before our Almighty everlasting God,bow our head and even our body down,and completely rest in him!! God answers!!! You would really be surprised to know that our Lord has much to say!! But we have to take the time needed, to get to that point in our prayer life!

SEE!! WE are always!!!! having to DO something!! Faith without works is dead! When we ask,we speak,that is doing something,when we seek,we are in battle to receive the assuance of our very faith in our Jesus! doing something!! And finally when we knock,we are doing something!! We are now not hoping Jesus will answer,we are waiting for him to answer!!ASSURANCE!!! Not a wish!! But real life completion of our very Faith in our Jesus!!

For Jesus Christ completes us!!Body, Spirit!!,and Soul! When you have done this just once in your life,you understand the true meaning of what prayers purpose is,and its rewards for praying! You find as I have that NOT praying!! is really a sin to you!! personal!!( 1 Sam 12:23) And you find you make more time for the Lord,because of it!

Asking and seeking, take a smaller part of your time,because you just cannot wait to get to the knocking realm again!! LOL This of course does not happen overnight!! We have spent so much time in the asking and seeking realm,few even knew there even was a knocking realm! BUT!!! there is!! And when you find this realm!! WELL!! My words cannot even describe what completeness feels like, until one has entered it!

I dare you to go for it!!!LOL You know when we wish to see a loved one in a distant place,we find in most cases the ride to get there is not always so pleasant,many things can happen along the way to get you to stop, turn around and go back home! But when you get to where you have wished to go,the door opens and you are greeted by warm friends and you are so glad you took the time to come to see them!! Same with Jesus in prayer! Jesus is so glad!!! You knocked!! When he opens that door, that you have fought so hard to get to in the first place!!( Matt 11:12!!!!!!!) To feel welcome is an under statement You are whole!! You are complete,you are FREE!! And best of all!!! YOU UNDERSTAND!!! Praise God for HIS Wisdom!! May you indeed by truly blessed! I sure was,and am because I Understand through our Jesus,what he meant when he told us to pray!! OUR Father!!! who Art in Heaven!! ( matt 6:6-15)!! And Praise God for Barkley as well!!

Has nothing to do with our righteous we might appear outwardly!
It all about faith and his will!
God sees all flesh as evil!There are No perfect beings in the flesh !

Rom_1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

Rom_1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.


Rom_3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Sounds good to the mind of people! If i am nice to you? Then He is nice me to me! Not true!

Act_10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:


None of Us are Perfect outwardly.All sinners in our flesh mind and body!

We are All Born into sin and this flesh mind and body die because of SIN!

every one of our spirit dwells in a sin filled body!
He does not see any of our flesh minds and bodies as better than others!

Gal_5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.


It just cannot be self serving and selfish reasons!
We are to be a blessing to our Lord and others and take care oof our families for His Glory and Honor !


We must understand? He loves Us more than we love ourselves and He not going to give us things that are going to hurt us or cause us to be evil!
He sees the future , we do not!


Listen He has given me things that were not the best for me? but i learned it from to always want His perfect Will in all things1 I now fully know ? HE knows best, i do not!


Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

My brother in Christ,If God saw all flesh as evil he would not have come in the flesh as a man. We do know this! We ourselves cannot be perfect! Only Jesus in us is.So if you thought for one second I was saying we are perfect before him in our flesh, then I am sorry! That was never intended. Thanks

Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

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Thanks for your post, Mark, it is very informative and helpful! This whole thread has been a blessing to me!

Here's what I've taken from (and been reminded of) your posts :

I must ask according to God's will, and I must have praise and thankfulness for God's blessings and provisions for all my needs. God loves a thankful heart. I need to be cleansed of my sins (and forgive others so that I can pray without hindrance).

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

Phil. 4:6

Mark 11:25 And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

I do this by asking God to do something (the faith part), then acting out my faith by seeking out the outcome I expect.
Seeking out the possibilities with which God may answer my prayer.

I know by faith that He will answer, and now I want to seek out how He will. And I don't know how He will unless I explore the possibilities!

If (to make an example) I have a poor relationship with an estranged sibling, I can ask God to repair it, and that's all good and fine to do so. But If I am asking and seeking, maybe I will pick up the phone and call him, believing that this may be the possible means by which God wants to set in motion the answer to my prayer.

God could be saying, "what do you want me to do, drag your brother over to you and force him to make up with you"? And He could be saying to me, "How about you show me that you believe I will answer your prayer, by calling him? Faith with works! Seek and ye shall find!
And if I am afraid to call him, then I am showing God that I am not trusting Him to take my act of faith (the phone call) and turn it into something good.

What if I never call my brother, and that's all I needed to do to have my prayer answered??? So it is a real blessing to me to realize that faith with works doesn't just apply to doing good works to others, it is also applicable to our prayer life!! That is so awesome!

So we have to ask (faith), to seek (do), and now the knocking part, which is perseverance. When we knock on a friend's door we don't just knock once, we knock several times. When we phone someone, how many times do we let it ring before we hang up? So Jesus’ Teaching on Prayer in Luke shows us how to knock - keep persevering.

Luke 11:5-10
Then Jesus said to them, “Suppose you have a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; 6 a friend of mine on a journey has come to me, and I have no food to offer him.’ 7 And suppose the one inside answers, ‘Don’t bother me. The door is already locked, and my children and I are in bed. I can’t get up and give you anything.’ 8 I tell you, even though he will not get up and give you the bread because of friendship, yet because of your shameless audacity[e] he will surely get up and give you as much as you need.
9 “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

So in summary, I shouldn't always just ask God for things. I need to step out and seek ways that He might answer them, and then knock on the doors of opportunity that are presented. In this way, praying is more than just asking God for things and then sitting around, waiting for Him to respond.

Blessings to you!

wonderful study! Thank you <3

When we pray for any thing to use for our own pleasures, we do not receive it. (James 4: 3-4)

On the other hand, when our prayers are "concerned above everything else with the Kingdom of God and what he requires", e.g., personal knowledge of God, honouring his holy name, etc. (Matt. 6: 9-12), the answer will be either inclusive "all the other things" we need or in surprising reverse, "What do you want me to do for you?" as asked of blind Bartimaeus. (Ibid, v.33; Mark 10: 46-52)

Thank you so much hadirfuss am a new member here and this is the first i have read am really encouraged and i pray that the lord continues to use you in building our spiritual lives.