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When I was a little girl growing up, my family was Anglican, we belonged to the Anglican church in our town, went to church every Sunday... I was christened, I had my confirmation later in my childhood... and then I fell away from the church as I got older... just... I don't know.. as a teenager it seemed like there was always something else happening on Sunday.. and my family was not really devout overall.. it was just the thing you did, going to church you know?

Then later in life I met my husband, he is Catholic, but not really a "practicing" catholic, but I wanted to share his faith, and I felt it would be right for us to be married in a church...so I went through the conversion process, went to classes, bible studies, during which I was recruited for the church choir.. I became m ore involved in the church and ... interested in it but truthfully... I still somehow felt like I was going through the motions.. it was like belonging to a club... it was something I did because it was there to do... and I made friends, close friends whom I spent time with at the church and church functions.

After a while though, going to church became more and more difficult to do, everything seemed so ... artificial.. so... going through the motions... every Sunday it was all about the ritual of it, kneel, stand, recite the right words at the right time, go get communion, sing the hymns, shake hands and chat afterwards... it felt more and more empty... and somehow fake... and I found myself becoming frustrated as I started to ask myself where is the god here? Where is the lord here? What is the faith here? What is the point? Why don't I FEEL anything???

So I left, quit going, lost contact with my friends from the church. Its been years since i stepped foot in one. From time to time I think about God, about faith and religion. I read about the growing atheist movement and wonder briefly if I even believe in god but then I can't reconcile the perfection of things in creation with a random event and so I find that I believe there MUST be something, someone who's hand created this perfection. But I don't FEEL it... at least I don't think I do... I WANT to... badly, gosh I can't even begin to say how badly I do.

Early this morning my Uncle died, someone I was very close to, someone who has had a hard life, and for whom death was not painless, but instead the vicious agony of a cancer that wracked his body and literally ate him alive until he was nothing more than skin stretched over bone...and I have found myself asking all day... where was god then? why would he let a man who has been so pure in his heart, who has been so selfless and caring his whole life, who would do anything for anyone, even a complete stranger, who would never ask for anything for himself but instead seek to give and give and give to others... why would he let him suffer like that?

I want so desperately to feel the peace that I read from people in youtube comments on the spiritual songs I've been listening to... I want so badly to understand why this happened and to not be angry, and confused and upset. I want to FEEL god and his love and the peace and certainty that comes with it and I don't know where to go or who to ask or what to do. I feel SO lost and I just with that please, could someone PLEASE just help me.
 
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greetings in the Lord;
I would like to encourage sis. Dont give up on God, for He hasnt give up on you. amen.

I encourage you to read, seek Him from the heart, our lips only get us as far as the heart is involved. What God told me, if one will revolve their life around Him, our very being, He will revolve around our life and become our very being. God wants a relationship with us. He wants our heart.

Your (our) heart is the eye of God. It is a chunk of coal, at first. As we seek Him, and begin renewing our mind by washing of water by the Word, that cold chunk of coal comes alive. And it grows from a small amber into a fire. Praise God. God is Spirit and He is alive and I see a vessel that is about to be lite.

Do your part, sis, seek Him, with all your heart, mind, body and strength. Everything you do, seeks His face; God will do the rest. Amen

All praise, glory and honor be to God. Amen
 
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why would he let a man who has been so pure in his heart, who has been so selfless and caring his whole life, who would do anything for anyone, even a complete stranger, who would never ask for anything for himself but instead seek to give and give and give to others... why would he let him suffer like that?
Thank you so much, your words minister to my heart as I read them all I could think about is Jesus when you were speaking of your uncles selflessness and suffering I thought of how Jesus suffered and by choice gave Himself as a sacrifice for you and me, I know of myself I deserve death for the Life I have lived, I thank you for this opportunity to meditate on the goodness of Him and be thankful for His grace He has shed on me'

I want so desperately to feel the peace that I read from people in youtube comments on the spiritual songs I've been listening to... I want so badly to understand why this happened and to not be angry, and confused and upset. I want to FEEL god and his love and the peace and certainty that comes with it and I don't know where to go or who to ask or what to do. I feel SO lost and I just with that please, could someone PLEASE just help me.
The peace you desire He will give you, The words you have spoken cry out to Him, He is there and He is willing and if you ask Him in He will come. I am praying for you and will continue every time He brings you to my remembrance. He is faithful to His promises. He say seek and you shall find.......seek Him
 
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When I was a little girl growing up, my family was Anglican, we belonged to the Anglican church in our town, went to church every Sunday... I was christened, I had my confirmation later in my childhood... and then I fell away from the church as I got older... just... I don't know.. as a teenager it seemed like there was always something else happening on Sunday.. and my family was not really devout overall.. it was just the thing you did, going to church you know?

Then later in life I met my husband, he is Catholic, but not really a "practicing" catholic, but I wanted to share his faith, and I felt it would be right for us to be married in a church...so I went through the conversion process, went to classes, bible studies, during which I was recruited for the church choir.. I became m ore involved in the church and ... interested in it but truthfully... I still somehow felt like I was going through the motions.. it was like belonging to a club... it was something I did because it was there to do... and I made friends, close friends whom I spent time with at the church and church functions.

After a while though, going to church became more and more difficult to do, everything seemed so ... artificial.. so... going through the motions... every Sunday it was all about the ritual of it, kneel, stand, recite the right words at the right time, go get communion, sing the hymns, shake hands and chat afterwards... it felt more and more empty... and somehow fake... and I found myself becoming frustrated as I started to ask myself where is the god here? Where is the lord here? What is the faith here? What is the point? Why don't I FEEL anything???

So I left, quit going, lost contact with my friends from the church. Its been years since i stepped foot in one. From time to time I think about God, about faith and religion. I read about the growing atheist movement and wonder briefly if I even believe in god but then I can't reconcile the perfection of things in creation with a random event and so I find that I believe there MUST be something, someone who's hand created this perfection. But I don't FEEL it... at least I don't think I do... I WANT to... badly, gosh I can't even begin to say how badly I do.

Early this morning my Uncle died, someone I was very close to, someone who has had a hard life, and for whom death was not painless, but instead the vicious agony of a cancer that wracked his body and literally ate him alive until he was nothing more than skin stretched over bone...and I have found myself asking all day... where was god then? why would he let a man who has been so pure in his heart, who has been so selfless and caring his whole life, who would do anything for anyone, even a complete stranger, who would never ask for anything for himself but instead seek to give and give and give to others... why would he let him suffer like that?

I want so desperately to feel the peace that I read from people in youtube comments on the spiritual songs I've been listening to... I want so badly to understand why this happened and to not be angry, and confused and upset. I want to FEEL god and his love and the peace and certainty that comes with it and I don't know where to go or who to ask or what to do. I feel SO lost and I just with that please, could someone PLEASE just help me.
Sure, Let's get some truth and some understanding and see where it takes us!:):
  • God loves you
  • God is absolute perfection and is not capable of making mistakes.
  • God made you
  • You are here for a reason.
  • Your wonderful testimony and concerns tells me God is calling you.
  • I went to a church for 30 years, raised my children in that same church and was "born again"...saved just 11 years ago.
  • I am in no way judging...just saying!.... You are either not saved or you just don't know that you are and, either one causes you to live in a bondage or different bondages of untruth!
 
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I want to FEEL god and his love and the peace and certainty that comes with it and I don't know where to go or who to ask or what to do. I feel SO lost and I just with that please, could someone PLEASE just help me.


Behold I stand at the door and knock

Revelation 3:20

Greetings @Seeking

Welcome to Talk Jesus
There is only one place you will find true, lasting peace and that is in Jesus
The past doesn't matter, what you have done doesn't matter, He will accept you just as you are

Here are a few Bible verses....ponder them and ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you
He will


For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life
John 3:16

Wherefore He is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by Him, seeing He ever liveth to make intercession for them
Hebrews 7:25

Canst thou by searching find out God?
Job 11:7

if.... thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find Him, if thou seek Him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
Deuteronomy 4:29


Behold now is the accepted time, now is the day of Salvation
2 Corinthians 6:2


One there is who loves thee,
Waiting still for thee:
Canst thou yet reject Him?
None so kind as He!
Do not grieve Him longer,
Come and trust Him now!
He has waited all thy days:
Why waitest thou?

Tenderly He woos thee,
Do not slight His call;
Though thy sins are many,
He’ll forgive them all.
Turn to Him, repenting,
He will cleanse thee now!
He is waiting at thy heart:
Why waitest thou?

Jesus still is waiting:
Sinner, why delay?
To His arms of mercy
Rise and haste away!
Only come believing,
He will save thee now!
He is waiting at the door:
Why waitest thou?

One there is who loves thee,
Oh, receive Him now!
He has waited all the day;
Why waitest thou?*

Him that cometh unto Me I will in no wise cast out
John 6:37


*HC Ayers 1903
 
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Hi @Seeking

I'm glad you joined our community. My condolences on your loss too.

I'd like to say I know how you feel about being in church, the mundane rituals and emptiness. The lack of Gods presence. All too common, especially in Catholic churches. They're dull and all about traditions and religion but not relationship.

I speak from experience of 12 years in catholic school. Church is to be real, natural and free. Free to sing loud, play loud music if that's what moves you, free to be yourself.

I would ask God to help you find a church that's bible based and free in Christ. Evangelical kind. He did for me and let me say, He cares and it's refreshing.

As for why God allows certain things to happen such as good people suffering, please listen these audio sermons I've posted. Look at the titles and what grabs your attention. They will bless you.

Sermons | Talk Jesus
 
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Sister seeking,A question for you dear sister.Would you rather have some one look to feel your presence, or spend time with you personal? For many people not just yourself,God has become only just that. A emotion? A person who is remembered in mind as if he is not alive? I truly understand this mindset,because for many years such as yourself,Jesus was never real to me either. I have heard from many about him,but there life never changed much at all except for the fact that now this wish to say I know Jesus.( james 2:19) I of course am sorry for your loved one departing,but how you saw him turn into just skin and bones should strike a bell, for many that in truth, they are much the same in spirit as well!

And from the horror of seeing another in such torment,our life can be greatly the same in spirit. This was so true of me sis.Since you do not at all know me sis,i wish to be clear about something! I am not looking to trample you into the ground whatsoever!! I am looking for you to consider what I had to do in my own life! ( 2 chronicles 32:31) " God left him alone, to test him, that He MIGHT KNOW!!! all that was in his OWN HEART!" Many months ago a lady from our Church was boasting upon her good deeds,and that she never married,she did this all for the Lord she said.

About a week later she had a vision,the angel of the Lord appeared to her,and said behold your life daughter! The angel pointed to a corner of the room, which had the most dirt filled rags and terrible smell one could think of! She wept and said No Lord, this cannot be! For all my life I have done what was good in my own eyes,and never married to give my life to my Jesus! The angel of the Lord asked her if she ever thought about her prayer she would say each night?( matt 6:9-10) YOUR will be done, YOUR kingdom come! You did all of these things because instead of believing what Jesus has already done for you,you believed you needed to preform some action to gain heaven? And what can YOU DO??

She of course began to cry,and wept bitterly. Like Hezekiah did! ( verse 3 of) ( 2 kings 20:1-11) The angel of the Lord said daughter believing is your work( john 6:28-29) And it is from your believing, you draw water in the well of LOVE for others,remember my word unto you daughter!( john 13:34-35) Remember my word from John the baptizer?( john 3:30-31) HE must increase but I must decrease! The point! Jesus does not wish for you dear sister to think upon him as you do of anger,Jesus is not angry with you sister!( Isaiah 54:9-10) he is causing an effect to happen around you, to wake you up from your sleep,just as he did mine!( rom 13:11-14!!!) He truly LOVES you sis!

What Jesus wants from you,is the very same he wanted and got from me sis!!( eph 3:16-19!!!) If we ourselves have not known truly the breath, and length, and height,and depth of his love,how can we ever become a light to others?( matt 5:14-16) Draw unto him sister seeking,for in seeking one shall always find!( matt 7:7) And God wants you to find him! For like a prodigal son( luke 15:31-32) The POWER of Jesus love which came unto me, comes unto to you knocking upon the very door of your heart!( rev 3:20-22) We overcome by opening the door,we overcome because we truly receive Jesus as he truly is!! Just like we wish to be by another sis!

I leave you with the very words Jesus gave unto me, in a mop closet in college,when I first believed! ( luke 15:31-32) And he said to him Son you have always been with me,and all that is mine is yours.But we had to celebrate( Luke 15:7)and rejoice,for this brother of yours was dead,and had begun to live,and was lost and has been found! May Jesus love touch you as you read this,for surly he gave me these words to encourage you and to wake you,as he did me from my sleep! Blessing to you seeking!!
 
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