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    And you are correct RJ!! except for one point. Can one ever repent after ones death? Suicide is an act of being God yourself. Is not suicide Blasphemy? Taking a creation from God and killing it without his approval? Since we both know that the act itself separates us from the Lord forever, Hebrews 6:4-6 takes effect for that person,does it not? One can never renew one who is dead.

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    Originally Posted by Brighthouse View Post
    And you are correct RJ!! except for one point. Can one ever repent after ones death? Suicide is an act of being God yourself. Is not suicide Blasphemy? Taking a creation from God and killing it without his approval? Since we both know that the act itself separates us from the Lord forever, Hebrews 6:4-6 takes effect for that person,does it not? One can never renew one who is dead.
    No disrespect, how can you say that, suicide is no more an act of being God than getting run over by a car. You can not put carnal or worldly views to this and say anyone committing suicide has also committed Blasphemy; saying that to me is as much as making yourself as God as anything...like judging!! . How do you know what is in a persons heart?
    I am sure there is as much chance for some people who commit suicide to have gone to hell and those who may have gone to heaven.
    How do you know that some of these people may have not had Christ in their heart but were in some state of mind beyond our reasoning.

    I also, with all love, disagree with your use of Hebrews 6: 4-6.
    Paul is talking about individuals who were not saved in the first place.
    In fact, that is why he said it is impossible to "Fall Away" once you have been saved.
    Last edited by RJ; 07-17-11 at 02:10 PM.
    " I'll see you here or I will see you up there or I will see you in the air"!.....Beam me up , Lord!

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    Originally Posted by ForumAddict View Post
    The options provided do not take this into consideration.

    If it were a Christian (or not) then yes it is a sin, and a Christian would not go to Hell, and a non Christian would.
    Agreed. Suicide is a sin. But if you're saved you go to heaven... if you're not saved you go to hell.
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    Absolutely! It could not be any clearer.

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    Originally Posted by ForumAddict View Post
    No offense was taken! Sorry, I didn't mean to come across that way! My sincere apologies.

    Life is too fast right at the moment and I need to slow down and smell the roses.
    thanks ForumAddict. As for stopping to smell the roses? Yeah...I'm in your camp...I need to slow down too. :-)

    Thanks FA.


    Hey thiscrosshurts: you want to share, on your no/no vote? I'm curious.

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    From one who has contemplated this question on many occasions I can not answer for God as to whether he would condemn or forgive the act of suicide but I can totally empathise with those who click on this thread with the hope that the answers will confirm our eternal security regardless of our actions. So many events in life bring us low.....for me it was the death of my mother, my husband, my brother, my sister in law, my dog and my breast to cancer......all in this four year period....depressed did not begin to describe my desolation. I gradually found the key that tells me my mind is the control of my destination and, as I think, so I am.

    I can't tell you that there are no days when I wish I could depart this life but my cat is dependent on me for food so I have to hang around. Trust is the key to survival..trust in Him....I hope anyone contemplating suicide will first talk to Jesus because he might have a particular purpose for you! To end your life without his consent is saying you do not trust him to make things okay.

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    Im with brighthouse on this one. How do you repent after your dead. Obviously only God knows the real answer.

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    Originally Posted by 4wheelpeel View Post
    Im with brighthouse on this one. How do you repent after your dead. Obviously only God knows the real answer.
    I think that this type of repentance is a common untruth.

    You have to only repent one time and your saved. Repentance is not a matter of going in and out of repentance and salvation.God knows whats in a persons heart at the moment of death, we don't.

    Here is a point to think about. Say there is no doubt you are "Born Again" and completely saved. Now, for what ever reason, you become so distraught that you go insane, loose your mind and kill yourself....
    are you now not saved, is this the type of condition where you say that you can't repent after your dead?
    " I'll see you here or I will see you up there or I will see you in the air"!.....Beam me up , Lord!

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    Untruth??? we do not sin daily ,to you? so way back when I was little, and I repented, I never need to repent again? plus!! no matter what I do because I say I believe ,I am saved to??WOW!!!

    This is why the Church is in the dumper!! Churches teach an easy religion,Does not matter how you live,repent?? what for I am saved??really!!(Philippians 2:12-13) This must be a lie to. Also please check out Job he was rightous as well!! Then pride hit him, thinking he could do no wrong either! Why did he lose so much until after he repented again!! for his stupidity!

    Please read chapter 38 of job, you instruct the Lord?? Communion only needs to be done once to?? You have angered me,you proclaim knowledge,and judge mine?What is truth to one,is not always truth to all.this goes for me as well as you!!

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    Originally Posted by Brighthouse View Post
    Untruth??? we do not sin daily ,to you? so way back when I was little, and I repented, I never need to repent again? plus!! no matter what I do because I say I believe ,I am saved to??WOW!!!

    This is why the Church is in the dumper!! Churches teach an easy religion,Does not matter how you live,repent?? what for I am saved??really!!(Philippians 2:12-13) This must be a lie to. Also please check out Job he was rightous as well!! Then pride hit him, thinking he could do no wrong either! Why did he lose so much until after he repented again!! for his stupidity!

    Please read chapter 38 of job, you instruct the Lord?? Communion only needs to be done once to?? You have angered me,you proclaim knowledge,and judge mine?What is truth to one,is not always truth to all.this goes for me as well as you!!
    You didn't quote me but since your reply was right after mine, I will take it as such.
    With all due respect, here is how I answer you statement:


    Originally Posted by Brighthouse View Post
    Untruth??? we do not sin daily ,to you? so way back when I was little, and I repented, I never need to repent again? plus!! no matter what I do because I say I believe ,I am saved to??WOW!!!
    Go back and count the different times and ways God has said: " And I will look at there sin no more"... Please give me your interpretation of that.
    So, how many times do you repent, each time you sin?...What if you don't realized you just sinned or you just didn't repent for that one sin at that time, where do you get repentance for those sins? How many times do you think Jesus is going to climb back up on the cross? Repentance is good and called for, I do it all the time but don't confuse repentance with salvation!


    This is why the Church is in the dumper!! Churches teach an easy religion,Does not matter how you live,repent?? what for I am saved??really!!(Philippians 2:12-13)
    And what makes you think that my church has taught me this? That is an insult that you put words or thoughts in my mouth by insinuating that it doesn't matter to me how you live. Please go back and show me and the other readers where I said that.

    If you honestly believe that you must continually repent for each sin you comitt, then that is the sort of thing that puts people into bondage of untruth. As a Christian, when you realize you have sinned, you have remorse, thank the Lord for what he did on the cross and work on it and move on.
    Again, here is your scenarion as I see it:
    What if you make it a goal to be in constant repentance for all your sins, say you are a Catholic and you go to confession every day. So what do you do if you don't go one day, a week or more. Unless YOU think you haven't sinned during this period, what now. You were saved before but now,since you failed to repent, you are not saved now...until you officially repent...talk about bondage!...that my friend is being held to bondage to Satin and the bonds of the Law. Satin has just convinced you that you are not saved. God said that is by Faith that you are saved and not of your own works. Your sinning and then repentance, sin, repentance, is by the law of requirements and is a Yo-Yo salvation. God's Grace is a gift and it is free and the exact opposite of the Law.
    This must be a lie to. Also please check out Job he was rightous as well!! Then pride hit him, thinking he could do no wrong either! Again, and insult! I NEVER said that you could do no wrong...those are your words!
    Why did he lose so much until after he repented again!! for his stupidity!
    Job live under the Law, the Law of requirements; we live after the cross and under Grace. In this discussion, Job has nothing to do with us.

    Please read chapter 38 of job, you instruct the Lord?? Communion only needs to be done once to?? Totally irrevelant, communion is an acknowledgement, witness to the return of the Lord, it has nothing to do with salvation or this discussion. You have angered me,you proclaim knowledge,and judge mine? I really regret that you got angry over a discussion about truth, please show me where I have judged you as you have done here.What is truth to one,is not always truth to all.this goes for me as well as you!!
    " I'll see you here or I will see you up there or I will see you in the air"!.....Beam me up , Lord!

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