If someone dies too young to make the decision for or against Christ, or if that person has a serious mental disability from a young age, then the Blood of the Lord covers them automatically. For the rest of us, we are required to make that choice.
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Yes I'm 100% sure!
No, there has to be another way! What about all the good people who have never heard of him?
I’m not sure. Who am I to say who God chooses to save or not save?
I'd rather not say.
If someone dies too young to make the decision for or against Christ, or if that person has a serious mental disability from a young age, then the Blood of the Lord covers them automatically. For the rest of us, we are required to make that choice.
before Jesus came to earth people had no savior. so in the end final say is God's. now and then i believe.
but Jesus certainly is the only way one should expect to be saved.
John 14:6
"Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."


Jesus said "I am the DOOR by me if any man enter in he will be saved"
No need for debate as I see it
Jesus said "I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"......Without the WAY there is no GOING, without the TRUTH there is no KNOWING without the LIFE there is no LIVING....Thats what Jesus said.
Jesus didn't say He was one of the ways we can be saved, or one of the doors we can enter to be saved. Rather, He said unequivocally that He is the door and that any other way is the way of thieves and robbers.
If there were other ways to be saved that would mean the sheep of Jesus' pasture could follow a stranger if they wanted to and still be welcome in Jesus' sheepfold, which would make Jesus a liar. But it's the other way around, Jesus' sheep hear The Good Shepherd's voice (only) and will not follow anyone else, and the liar is the one who tries to enter the gate by another way.
"Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, not A way, A truth or A life. Jesus is THE door, not "A" door - salvation is not multiple choice!
John 10:1-15
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life".
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The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my savior;


there is no other name given among men where by we must be saved.
I vote for "No, What about all the good people who have never heard of him?"
But.. in fact, I voted for "Yes, he is a savior of the world" both, for believers and non-believers too.
Once more "but" . . my "No" was for the ideology, where Christians are saying that: "Only baptized and re-born people will saved."
I mean.. "to be saved" isn't the love . . it isn't love for man to have great desire for going to heaven.
I mean.. again.. that fear of hell or beauty of heaven is spiritual filthiness, both!
Jesus Christ is Ocean . . living Ocean, you know?
And only the Ocean have authority to receive someone or reject . . There are always little fishes and.. huge sharks!
Who are we to judge thief or prostitute?
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindus and.. etc?
I'm sorry if my "English" is misunderstanding . .
I hope, I posed correctly.
I suggest that it’s possible that God, desiring that all men should be saved and come to knowledge of the truth (I Tim. 2.4), has so providentially ordered the world that anyone who would believe in the Gospel if he heard it is born at a time and place in history where he does in fact hear it. In that case, no one could stand before God on the Judgement Day and complain that, while he may not have responded to God’s general revelation in nature and conscience and so finds himself condemned, he would have responded to the Gospel if only he had had the chance.
It all boils down to whether you believe and follow God's Word and those who don't will believe anything.
I hope that it is only the quality of your English in understanding what you are trying to say. If I have mistaken your words for something other than what I'm about to write in response, I apologize ahead of time.
Concepts of "Jesus Christ is Ocean..living Ocean" are attempts to describe attributes, and not who He is which is fully Man & God. I hope you have read the first post I made when I started this poll. Many might have wondered why ask a question when you're doing this on a Christian Site, who except for seekers, and others who don't believe (Yet I pray!) must surely select "Yes, 100% sure!" Sadly, this is not the case.
Whichever bible you are using, since I don't know what you mean by "Other" in your bio, must be taken into context, of all scripture. By making a statement that says "Yes, he is a savior of the world"
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
are a couple of verses that reflect what you have said to be a correct statement, yet within the whole of scripture, we understand that of those who are to be saved, because it is very clear that there will be those who are not; must believe in who He says He is.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And we cannot leave out the verse which many even those who don't believe in Christ Jesus know........
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Normally the issue really becomes for many including those of other religions, is the Divinity of Jesus Christ. If we so question His Divinity, we then must ask ourselves. To deny His Divinity do we really believe Him to be who He says He is?
There is much to write on what you have posted and I could go on, but I sense that the language and possible some of the scripture might be a stumbling block to being fully understood, so I'll stop here to allow you to pray, look at scripture, in regards to what I've written so far and then respond.
C4E
Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Dear God, Your will, nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. Amen.
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