Do all people a have a free will? I voted yes because it unquestionable that we must have our own free will.

In my own honest opinion it would be absolutely ludicrous to believe anything else

God gave us free will, to choose or not to choose Salvation.
He will not force us.

Originally Posted by Pentecostal

Do all people a have a free will? I voted yes because it unquestionable that we must have our own free will.

In my own honest opinion it would be absolutely ludicrous to believe anything else

Absolutely yes! God has given us freedom to choose and live accordingly (either blessings or curses). Based on what we choose; on the final day, there will be either reward or punishment for us.

God bless you.

so far I am the only one that voted "no"
I hope this doesn't surprise people. Free Will yes by God through Jesus we have it; the free countries of the world, ie. Canada, United States, England, etc by law we are gaurenteed free will but in truth we are being repressed by the same people we expect to make that gaurentee. We can only exercise our free will in accordance with the way they want us to think, that is how they continue to assert their authority, we see it everyday but pay no notice of it. When I was younger I was accused of being a dangerous person. Not because I am a criminally minded person or that I am a crazed psychopath(although some people would likely believe otherwise~lol), but because I know through Jesus, that our free will is a certainty and in the end we will be judged by how we used it. On this reply I was not going to quote the Gospel, but... Matthew 16:1>4. For us we see the world around us; what it looks like but our lives don't reflect that, WE MUST CHANGE, but won't.Mark 13:9 & 13. To excercise or free will. To be Christ-like we all must realize, the world can not remain as is.
So even though our free will is gaurenteed it has also been sircumvented by the same forces.

May the Will of our Lord be with all of you; God bless

Pagan, my dear loving brother in Christ.....how I miss our pure brotherly/sisterly chats!

I see your view point. Interesting I say....I love to hear the viewpoints of others. I will select this to my favorites and will come back if I should have something to add.

I am assuming that you mean that we have limited will in the world......but think differently about the "free will" God the father has created us with, given us the ability to choose?

Does God not give us a free wil? He let's us decide to accept Him or not, No?
I would love to have you address that point.

But what do you think about Pharaoh, He had free choice, did he not?
Thanks for entretaining my babbling...........

Love in Christ, because of Him, and through Him,
Singlemom

Hope all is well in Canada..........

A side note----if we don't have free will, then how do you feel about accountability? smile.

But what do you think about Pharaoh, He had free choice, did he not?

I believe Pharoah did not have free will/choice at least regarding the Exodus. The Bible says that God hardened Pharoah's heart several times. It doesn't say that Pharoah hardened his own heart. In this regard, I feel sorry for Pharoah because if he had his own choice in the matter he would have let them go WAY before ALL of those catastrophes had occured. IMO

edit: Pharoah did harden his own heart through the seventh plague and then God took over on the hardening in Exodus 10 and 11!

Originally Posted by paganmystic

so far I am the only one that voted "no"
I hope this doesn't surprise people. Free Will yes by God through Jesus we have it; the free countries of the world, ie. Canada, United States, England, etc by law we are gaurenteed free will but in truth we are being repressed by the same people we expect to make that gaurentee. We can only exercise our free will in accordance with the way they want us to think, that is how they continue to assert their authority, we see it everyday but pay no notice of it.

Thank you my sister (lol) I was worried for some reason we were being kept apart because you still own me the conversation in open chat on accountability. All I did here was up the level of the conversation (lol) as you can see in the quote Yes we are given free will by God also in the quote (check with the post), we as individuals chose to limit our free will by choice. This last statement does not apply to me, as a result, by many I am classified as a dangerous person. My posts here are only a start but my intent is to get more people to reassert their free will making their faith like mine, absolute. If this is picked up as a challenge, by those who read it, good my job here is working. The last 2 verses of Matthew are without a doubt the single most critic words to all Christians "The Great Commission". If we are not willing to carry the Word of God to "all" parts of the world no one will.

I really do miss you in the chat room with God willing see you soon>>> agape

Originally Posted by paganmystic

Thank you my sister (lol) I was worried for some reason we were being kept apart because you still own me the conversation in open chat on accountability. All I did here was up the level of the conversation (lol) as you can see in the quote Yes we are given free will by God also in the quote (check with the post), we as individuals chose to limit our free will by choice. This last statement does not apply to me, as a result, by many I am classified as a dangerous person. My posts here are only a start but my intent is to get more people to reassert their free will making their faith like mine, absolute. If this is picked up as a challenge, by those who read it, good my job here is working. The last 2 verses of Matthew are without a doubt the single most critical words to all Christians "The Great Commission". If we are not willing to carry the Word of God to "all" parts of the world no one will.

I really do miss you in the chat room with God willing see you soon>>> agape

Pagan, I know you will get a smile when you see the title I have given this reply!!!

Ha, Ha, Ha, My friend......in the world's eyes, we are all rebels. They do not understand why we would devote ourselves to the propagating of the gospel.......they sometimes call it a crutch, most of the time, we are ridiculed.

So you are the odd man out because your faith is absolute, huh? Welcome to the club, you happen to be in the right place.
I, by the very virtue of having been saved in a very conservative Baptist (not southern) church, am quite dogmatic in many aspects. I treasure theology, doctrine, and truth. I am not always the popular one I can assure you.

But I think this post would not be proper without you explaining what "Absolute" means to you. Absolute faith......hmmmmmm, sounds like a devoted faith, non-compromising, perhaps?

You have to stand firm in what you believe, otherwise, you will fall for anything, is what the Bible says, no? That is what is so awesome about our Lord, He allows us to believe in the first place, gives us the faith to keep believing, and then sends His Spirit to guide us! That is a wonder beyond wonders! To know that our faith is our own....we can believe God's truths, let the Holy Spirit customize/tailor it to our specific lives/experiences, and then to allow us to serve Him having placed our faith in God's truths, and then to give us the grace and wisdom to apply what we believe!
Phew! that was a long line!!!!!!! a mouthful, no?


But as always, I agree with you. The great commission of the Lord, carries great responsibility......now is not the time to weaken, "strengthen the feeble hands, steady the knees that give way; say to those with fearful hearts, "Be strong, do not fear; your God will come." Isaiah 35:3-4

In addition to all of this, there is a Bible verse that says that anything not done in faith is sin, no?
You answer to your Master and I to mine, we have the privilege of being accountable to the Master in specific areas. Like the early church, with the issue of eating meat........besides....not allowing our choice to make a brother fall, we are able to decide whether it is right for us, if God is pleased with our personal decision.

Let's say the issue of tongues......I do not believe they are for today.
Some here will tell you that they are, they are accountable only to God, not me. If they believe they can talk in tongues and their faith is in God, then they are doing it in faith........

Eating in Chinese restaurants with the giant buddha, I think their food is sacrificed to idols.........man oh' man do I love egg rolls! But if my weaker brother thinks it is wrong......I will wait to do it when I know they are not weakened by my act.

Long Story short, right on Pagan , God will bless your faith in being a rebel for Him.

Ha, ha, haaaaaaa

BUT HERE IS ONE MORE IMPORTANT POINT, I THINK!
There are important truths in the Bible that cannot be altered, lest we be judged for changing it's contents.........

So we have free choice........to follow God, or not to follow Him, to Obey Him freely or not?

These are parameters, the free choice question is will you accept the Christ, or not, huh?

Blessings be yours in abundance!
Amen!
Singlemom

Originally Posted by Singlemom

being a rebel for Him.


So we have free choice........to follow God, or not to follow Him, to Obey Him freely or not?

These are parameters, the free choice question is will you accept the Christ, or not, huh?
Blessings be yours in abundance!
Amen!
Singlemom

Amen

I have a song by Pebo Norman called 'Jesus the Rebel'
strange you should word it so.

Originally Posted by Maureen

Amen

I have a song by Pebo Norman called 'Jesus the Rebel'
strange you should word it so.

Hey Maureen,

I tried finding this song on you tube.com and found something by the chieftains and Jackson Brown, is that the one???

I could not find Peabo Norman on you tube.

I was a wretched rebel........had my back turned away from my Savior.

I continued to sin.....knowing not, nor caring My Lord was crucified.........Amazing Love, It reached even me!!!!


He sought me when a stranger wandering from the fold of God!

Now I am a rebel no more........though I am a stupid sheep, sometimes I lose my way and the Good Shepherd is still there.........seeking me...........

How good He is..............He alone is worthy of honor, praise, and exaltation.


God be magnified in your life and in those who call on His name today.......

Amen,