http://www.talkjesus.com/ Christian chat rooms and messageboard. en Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:39:27 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.talkjesus.com/images/element/misc/rss.jpg http://www.talkjesus.com/ http://www.talkjesus.com/church-sermons/33953-journey-4-life-part-5-a.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:04:54 GMT will you say "Devil it is written"? When the devil comes against your health and threatens you with sickness do you accept it? NO, you say "Devil it is written, He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon him. And by His stripes we are healed. glory to God, we are healed. can you see it child of God? can you see that it is the word that Jesus spoke and is still speaking today, because he is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and his words are recorded and written down in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, for you and me child of God, all you have to do is, listen and be tought by the great teacher and master Jesus, and put what you have heard and learnt into practice,and just like when Jesus sent two of his disciples, saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here, If anyone asks you, Why are you untying it?, tell him, The Lord has need of it." so those who were sent ahead went and found it just as Jesus had told them. child of God can you see it? they found it just as Jesus had told them, they listened, they believed, then followed out the instructions, and it came to pass just as Jesus, the Word of God said it would. Glory to God. Now lets look at another man, only known as a blind man from birth, now this man just like you and me, had a choise to listen and to believe, and follow through what Jesus spoke or just carry on begin. He chose the first praise God, Jesus spat on the ground and made clay, put it on the blind mans eyes and said, "Go wash in the pool at siloam." now this pool were about half to a mile away from where they were stood and i believe there would have been many oppertunaties to wash his eyes along the way, in fact every house would have had water pots by doorway for washing peoples feet before entering the household, but this blind man knew his healing was only at the pool at siloam, because Jesus said so, and guess what glory to God, his eyes were healed, he could see for the first time in his life, and all because he put into action what he had listened to and believed and he recived his miracal, and thats just the same today with you and me child of God, all we have to do is let Jesus teach us through his word, through his sanctified word, Paul said "cast down all imaginations [mental thoughts] that exaults its self against the knowledge or word of God." you see child of God in order to do this, you first need to have the word of God in you before you can tell the difference from your thoughts and God's own spoken word. The Lord said "my thoughts are not your thoughts, and my ways are not your ways, as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. CHAGE YOUR INPUT TO CHANGE THE OUTPUT So child of God lets stop thinking what God is saying in our lives and know through his word, Remember this little catchphrase, If i continue to think what i've always thought, then i'll continue to get what i've always got, and how true it is, Jesus said, "seek first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you, all what things? The Psalmist gives us a good idea in Psalms 1:3, for the man who delights [takes great pleasure in] God and his word, David proclaimed, he shall be like a tree firmly planted and tendered by the streams of water, ready to bring forth its fruit in its season. Its leaf also shall not fade or wither, and everything he does shall prosper and come to maturity, prosper when translated is, to succeed, flourishing, thriving and rich, glory to God! so if you want to change your output, you have to change your input, Amen! if you want Faith to come out, you have to put God's word in, glory to God. Just like if you get a 3000 cc V6 petrol injection engine and put diesel in it, will it run? No, why?, because like it says "petrol injection" so there for it will not run on anything but petrol, just like a Diesel engine will only run on Diesel, and thats just like faith, Faith is an engine and is, only powered up by the sanctified word of God!, because faith comes by hearing and hearing what is preached from the lips of Christ, Jesus said in Matthew 24:35, The sky and earth will pass away but my WORDS will not pass away. Let me now take you on a journey back to the day's of Moses when he was leading the Isrealites through the wilderness, and there came a day when the food ran out and all the Isrealites blamed Moses, so Moses went before the Lord to ask him for food, and the Lord sent manner food from heaven, but this food came with instructions to do, and they were to collect this food fresh every morning and eat it that day and that day only, and in the morning collect it fresh again, and Jesus said, I am the bread of life, this is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which comes from heaven, if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever, and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, which I shall give for the rest of the world. Now we already know that Jesus was the Word who became flesh, so can you see it child of God? The law was given through mosses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ, truth comes through Jesus or the Word, or the Words that Jesus spoke, and that same truth Jesus said, "sets us or makes us free, and who the son sets free is free indeed, praise God, and Jesus the new manner from heaven also comes with instructions to eat daily, so all you have to do is get that word inside you, read it, listen to it, so that the Holy Spirit can do his job. You see the Holy Spirit is the creative factor of God, God speaks the word and the Holy Spirit creates it, just like in the beginning when the earth was without form, and void, and God said "Let there be light, and there was light, because the Holy Spirit did his job and did it well, praise God, just like he is waiting now for YOU child of God, to get the words of Jesus inside you daily, then just watch the creative factor of God do his work in you just like Jesus tells us in John 14;26, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the father will send in my name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your rememberance ALL things that I said to you. glory to God!. Jesus also told his disciples in John 16;13, However, when He the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will gloryfiy Me, He will take of what is mine and declare it to you. All things that the Farther has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and decliere it to you. praise His Holy Name, can you see that like a car needs petrol, Faith needs words of Jesus and Holy Spirit needs the same words of Jesus to turn Faith filled words into reality, just like when Jesus said to the man "pick up your bed and walk," the Holy Spirit was the creative factor and the man walked, when Jesus said "Lazarus, come forth!" in fact every time Jesus spoke them Faith filled words the Holy Spirit was there to turn them words from words to truth and then truth to reality, because truth is what originates from reality glory to God, now you can see for yourself child of God that you need to eat from the tree of life, the words of Jesus are your life, Praise God! But its through our obedience to read and listen to the word of God on a daily bases, Jesus said to his disciples, "could you not stay with me one hour" one hour per day to gather that fresh manner from heaven, child of God if you want to have a good physical looking body, will you get that body by just sitting on a chair watching tv, No?, will you get that body by just believing you will have a good body?, No, if you want a good physicle looking body you will have to spend some time at the gym, and exersize, lift heavy weights till it hurts and more, as the saying goes No pain no gain, so when you become obediant to exersize you see the results in your body, but not immediatley it takes time, patience, long suffering, and obedience to get results, and that apply's the same with the spiritual body, obedience to read and listen to the words of Jesus, in other words tithe your time to God give to God what is Gods, TIME. patience, knowing that sooner or later as long as you keep reading and listening to the words of Jesus, like exersize produces muscle, the words of Jesus produces FAITH, Glory to God. and Faith moves mountians. It was by FAITH the walls of Jericho fell down, by Faith Noah built a boat in the desert, by Faith the people passed through the Red sea as if on dry land, by Faith we understand that the Universe was formed at Gods command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. by Faith Peter walked on the water, and let us now fix our eyes on JESUS the author and perfecter of our Faith, AMEN. LOVE THE DIRECTION FOR LIFE Now you are on the way to get this kind of Faith, there also is a direction to walk and that direction is LOVE. praise God, The Apostle Paul spoke to the church at Corinth and said, 1st Corinthians 13;1, if i speak in tongues of men and of angels but have no LOVE, I am only a resounding gong or clanging symble, if I have all mysteries and all knowledge, and have Faith that can move mountians, but have no LOVE I am NOTHING. If I give all my possessions to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have no LOVE, I gain NOTHING. LOVE is patient, LOVE is kind, LOVE does not envy, LOVE does not boast, LOVE is not proud, LOVE is not self seaking, LOVE is not easily angered, LOVE keeps no record of wrong doing, LOVE does not delight in evil but rejoices with the TRUTH, LOVE goes hand in hand with the TRUTH, LOVE always protects, LOVE always trusts, LOVE always hopes, LOVE always preserves, LOVE never fails. glory to God!. Jesus also told his disciples in John 13;34, I give you a new commandment; that you should LOVE one another. just as i have LOVED you, so you should LOVE one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples. If you have LOVE and keep on showing LOVE among your selvs. and dont forget child of God LOVE and forgivnes go hand in hand with each other. In the time of Jesus' ministiry, two sects kept on bombarding him with questions, accusations and law, now these two sects are called Sadducees and pharisees, there is a ryme about the first and it goes, The Sadducees are sad you see because they don't believe in the resurection, so if they don't believe in the resurection they don't believe in Jesus, but the pharisees now they are the ones to watch out for because they do believe in the resurection, therefor do believe in Jesus but don't know Jesus, the pharisees always told Jesus what he was doing wrong and repeatedley told him which one of God's laws he was breaking and what he should and should not do, like in Mathew when they sent a pharisee but not just any old pharisee but one who were an expert in the Law to question Jesus about the greatest commandment in the Law. MATTHEW 22;34, Now when the pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together, one of their number, a lawyer, asked Him a question to test Him, Teacher, which kind of commandment is great and important in the law? and he replied to him, "You shall Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart and with ALL your soul and with ALL your mind, this is the great, most important principle and first commandment. and the second is like it; You shall Love your neighbor as you do yourself. These two commandments sum up, and upon them depend ALL the Law and the prophets. glory to God!. JAMES the brother of JESUS also writes this, James 2:8, If indeed you really fulfil the Royal law in accordance with the scripture, you shall love your neighbour as you love yourself, you will do well. you see child of God when ever you walk in love and towards love, you are walking towards God because God is love, amen? Paul also wrote this to the Church at colosse, Colossians 3:12, There for, as Gods chosen people holy and dearly loved, clove yourself with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and paitience. bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you, and over all these things put on love which binds them all together in perfect UNITY. Forgive as the Lord forgives. Well lets have a look at the Lords Love and Forgiveness, lets take a look at His disciples, we have Thomas who did not believe it till he had seen it for himself, so did Jesus say to him you are not my disciple.? NO, first Jesus said "peace to you," then he said, "Thomas, reach out your finger and place it into the holes of my hands, and place your hand into my side, do not be faithless but from now on stop your unbelief and BELIEVE. glory to God, another disciple of Jesus was Judas iscariot, now this disciple all the the time was steeling money from Jesus but never once did Jesus rebuke him about this matter but just loved him to the end, in fact when Jesus realised Judas iscariot was about to betray him, Jesus showed love by washing His and all of the disciples feet even though the feet of the disciples would have been cleaned already by servants before they started eating supper so this was an act of pure Love. praise God. It did not matter to Jesus what the disciples were doing wrong, he only encouraged them to do what was right and taught them faith, love, and peace, then there were SIMON PETER, this is the disciple who got it wrong so many times even Jesus himself told Peter that he would get it wrong, and deny Jesus 3 times and gues what Peter did, and the way Peter went away from Jesus by bettrayial he came back through Love. as we see in John 21:15, when they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, Simon, Son of John, do you Love me more than these? He said to him, Yes, Lord, you know that I Love you. Jesus said, Feed my lambs. Again He said to him the second time, Simon, Son of John, do you Love me? He said to Him, Yes, Lord, You know that I Love you. Jesus said to him, Shepherd and tend My sheep. Jesus said to Him a third time, Simon son of John, do you Love Me? Peter was grieved that He should ask Him a third time, Do you Love Me? And He said to Him, Lord, you know everything; You know that I Love you. Jesus said to Him. Feed My sheep. You see child of God, Jesus did not say to Peter look what you have done to me, He did not cast Peter out of the 12, He just showed Peter the way back to Him and the way was LOVE. glory to God!. Lets now look at a woman who were in a tight spot, the woman who was caught in adultery, the bible says in the very act, so someone actually walked in on this woman and the man who she was being intimate with to be caught in the very act. so this woman who were caught bang to rights were then brought to Jesus by the chief priests, scribes and pharisees with the law, that by the law she should be stoned to death right hear right now in the middle of Jesus' believers convention, But Jesus took the law of Death from sin and threw it back at them, when he said to the pharisees, "He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone" Now these are the highly respected men of God, chief priests, scribes, teachers of the moseic law, and one by one from the oldest to the youngest after being convicted by there own consience left the building, leaving the woman alone and slightly puzzled, I mean put yourself in her shoes, she were not thinking am I going to die, but when am I going to die, how many stones will hit me, and its not every day that you find out that the people who every one holds in high respect is just the same as you and me, A SINNER saved by Grace is it? you see child of God when people bring LAW and condemnation, JESUS gives LOVE and FORGIVENESS. glory to God!. Paul also writes in his letter to the Galatians 5:13, You my Brothers, were called to be Free, but do not use your Freedom to induldge in the sinful nature, rather serve one another in Love. The entire Law is summed up in One command, Love your neighbour as Yourself. Lets now look at the ten commandments spoken by God and set in stone, this Law will always be there, and no one can change it. A bit like gravity, this is also a law that can't be changed, but if you operate in a new law, a law that super seeds the old law, the law of lift what Aircraft use, now this law of lift can operate within the law of gravity with ease, now the law of lift does not try to abolish or get shut of the law of gravity, because every one knows if you are in a Aircraft flying at 30,000 feet and stop using the law of lift, instantley the law of gravity will take over and down you will come. JESUS shows us a new law, The law of Love, now this law operates in and fulfills the Ten commandments glory to God. You see child of God its Love, Love, and more Love, same as Word, Word, and more Word, John the disciple whom Jesus loved wrote this in first John 4:6, We are children of God. Whoever is learning to know God progresivley to procieve, recognize, and understand God by observation and experience, and to get an even-clearer knowledge of Him listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen or pay attention to us. By this we know and recognize the spirit of Truth and the spirit of error, Beloved, let us love one another, for Love is and springs forth from God; and he who Loves his fellowmen is begotten, born of God and is coming progressivly to know and understand God. to perceive and recognize and get a better and clearer knowledge of Him. He who does not love has not become acquainted with God, does not and never did know Him. for GOD is Love. In this the Love of God was made manifest, displayed where we are concerned: in that God sent His Son, the only begotten or unique Son, into the world so that we might live through him. In this is Love: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as a propitiation, the atoning sacrifice for our sins. Beloved, if God loved us so very much, we also ought to Love one another. No man has at anytime yet seen God. But if we Love one another, God abides, lives and remains in us and His Love is brought to completion, to its full maturity and run its full course is perfected in us! By this we come to know, perceive, recognize, and understand that we abide, live and remain in Him and He in us: because He has given, imparted to us His Holy spirit. And besides we ourselves have seen that the Farther has sent His Son as the Saviour of the world. Anyone who acknowledges and confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides, comes and makes His home in Him, and He makes His home in God. And we know and believed the Love that God has for us. God is Love, and He who abides in Love abides in God, and God in Him. Love has been perfected among us in this; that we may have boldness in the day of judgement; because as He is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in Love; but perfect Love casts out all fear, because fear involves torment, But He who fears has not been made perfect in Love. We Love Him because He first Loved us. If someone says, "I LOVE GOD" and hates His brother, He is a liar; for He who does not Love His brother whom He has seen, how can He Love God whom He has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that He who Loves God must Love His brother also. Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ, anointed saviour is born of God, and everyone who Loves Him who begot also Loves Him who is begotten of Him. By this we know that we Love the children of God, when we Love God and keep His commandments. for this is the Love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. You see child of God Love or to Love is not hard to do is it? Paul the apostle wrote in 1 Timothy 1:5, Now the purpose of the commandment is LOVE from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from a sincere FAITH, glory to God. Paul also wrote this to the church at Corinth, And now these three remain; Faith, Hope, and Love, But the greatest of these is LOVE, Love child of God, Love is the greatest. THE POWER OF LOVE Lets just have a look at the power of Love, Let me take you back to the sixty's, the Hippy movement when Love and Peace were the banner, now this movement went worldwide and how big were it? but they had missed out the vital ingrediant, FAITH, Faith in Jesus Christ, Jesus said "without me you can do nothing" so it all starts with Jesus, it all starts with faith in what Jesus said then to operate that faith by love and forgiveness, and take our example from Jesus, remember when Jesus had walked the walk of Love all the way to the Cross, and even on the Cross He said to those people who had whipped, spat, jeared, and nailed to the Cross, "Farther I forgive these people for they don't know what they are doing." wow! praise God, can you see it child of God? can you see that Love and forgiveness go hand in hand with each other like Faith and love? Jesus also teachers us about Love having no bounderies in Luke 6:27, But I tell you who hear Me; Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, Bless those who curse you, Pray for those who ill-treat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn and give him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. If you Love those who Love you, what credit is that to you.? Even sinners Love those who Love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners expecting to be repaid in full. But Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be Sons of the most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Farther is merciful. This is the kind of Love and forgiveness that Jesus is telling us what the Farther is requiering from us, praise God, I have heard this scripture quoted over and over again, Give, and it will be given to you, A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Well the true meaning of this scripture is found in the verse before it Luke 6:37, Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be Forgiven. Give, and it will be given. you see child of God, Jesus through this is teaching us the laws of sowing and reaping, just like a farmer knows that if he plants carrot seed, he will grow carrots and if he plant tomato seeds, he will grow tomatoes, just like if you sow the word and love, you will grow the kingdom of God. Jesus said "the kingdom of God is already in you" its already there all you have to do is tap into it, and Jesus shows us how to do it through His word, when He said, " I AM the way, the truth and the Life, nobody can come to the Farther except through the Son. glory to God, this one question I ask you now child of God. If Jesus were to come to you today, would He call you Faithful friend, and why? if your answer is anything different than, Faith in Jesus Christ, and to Love all His people, then child of God you need to repent, to turn from the way you are going, and go the way of Jesus, pick up your Cross and follow Him. And child of God will you pray this prayer with me? Lord Jesus Christ, i'm not were I thought I was, i'm sorry, forgive me, I Love you Lord Jesus, and now from
this hour forward i'm going to walk just as you want me too, give me your strength to continue to read and listen to your word daily, and to Love people just the way you Love me, I thank you Lord Jesus for the truth that is setting me free and will continue to set me Free, and now father God I give you all the glory, all the Honour, and all the praise, in Christ Jesus Name, Amen. the lord once spoke to me and said FAITH, LOVE, and PEACE is all you need my SON did all the work on the CROSS, its all done just receive it by FAITH, well child of God its your choice now you have got hold of the handlebars of your own life and the direction you go is your choice, I hope from now on you make the right ones. ]]> faith2love http://www.talkjesus.com/church-sermons/33953-journey-4-life-part-5-a.html http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33951-daily-your-presence-awareness.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:46:17 GMT AWARENESS

"You see the people crowding against you,"

his disciples answered,

"and yet you can ask, ‘Who touched me?' "

Mark 5:31

FROM THE FATHER'S HEART
My child, no matter how large My world grows, and no matter how many children I have, there is room in My heart for every one of them. I especially hear the cries of My hurting children and feel the touch of faith from those who press through to reach My heart. I want all to come to Me, and none to perish. I am aware of every heartfelt need, every devastating pain, every crushing blow you face. Reach out and touch Me, My child, and I will make you whole.

A GRATEFUL RESPONSE
You see my face, speak my name, and touch my life, even among a thousand other people. How is it that You, who care for so many, still have time for me? Your awareness of those around You amazes me, Lord. You are such a personal, loving God.

SIMPLE TRUTH

When we travel, we see landmarks. When Jesus traveled, He saw faces.

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]]> Lounge ladylovesJesus http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33951-daily-your-presence-awareness.html http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33950-word-4u-2day-work-3-a.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:44:52 GMT Work it (3)

'Work willingly at whatever you do, as though ... for the Lord' Colossians 3:23

Do you ever notice how people make certain jobs appear more important than others? Perhaps you do the same? Think you'll be a 'nothing' or a 'nobody' until you're a world class footballer, top model, pop megastar or won the Nobel Peace Prize? Is the thought of working in Maccy D's or having a paper round to earn a bit of extra cash beneath you?

Perhaps you feel pressured by school and parents saying, 'You must aim higher!' Or would you really like to follow your passion for music, dance, or drama but are being told; 'It's a waste of time - that's not a proper job.'

Perhaps you think you need to get a God-type job, like worship leader, youth pastor, missionary or vicar, and you couldn't possibly follow your dream of working with computers? But imagine a world without fast food places, supermarkets, receptionists, theatres, postal workers ... someone needs to do all these jobs.

Our world is full of variety - that's what makes it good! It's not what you do that matters most to God, it's how you work at what you do. The Bible says, whatever you do, you should do it well - as though you were doing it for God Himself. God created us all with different gifts, talents and abilities. He wants you to do what you're good at, something you enjoy. So follow your dreams and 'work as for the Lord'.

written by Bob Gass ]]> Daily Devotionals ladylovesJesus http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33950-word-4u-2day-work-3-a.html http://www.talkjesus.com/bible-study-hall/33949-lucifers-creation-heaven-eternity.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:20:23 GMT When was Lucifer created? I'm guessing Heaven. Clearly he was around before the Earth was formed since he was present from the time man was willed into existence...but what I don't get is the sequence of events that occurred from his birth to his demise. I always thought of heaven as a place of eternity or timeless. If Lucifer was created as God's perfect angel and then over a course of progression he fell from grace, what is that period called if there's no time in eternity? Am I missing something here? How does progression happen in a realm where there's no time or timeless? ]]> Bible Study Hall HappySoul http://www.talkjesus.com/bible-study-hall/33949-lucifers-creation-heaven-eternity.html http://www.talkjesus.com/church-sermons/33948-does-god-know-you.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:43:10 GMT BGEA: Where Change Really Begins ]]> stephen http://www.talkjesus.com/church-sermons/33948-does-god-know-you.html http://www.talkjesus.com/press-stand/33947-lutherans-opposed-gay-clergy-form-new-u-s-denominat.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:28:56 GMT By Jeff Martin, USA TODAY
The nation's newest church denomination has been created by Lutherans breaking away from the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which approved gay clergy in a contentious vote last year.

The new North American Lutheran Church's provisional Constitution was approved Friday morning at a meeting in Ohio, with 18 churches in 12 states from Pennsylvania to South Dakota signed on as charter members of the new church body.

Formation of the North American Lutheran Church is the culmination of long-standing divisions within the ELCA that date to the 1990s. Last year, those divisions deepened when the ELCA voted to allow non-celibate gay pastors to serve in its 10,239 congregations.

The 4.5 million-member ELCA is the nation's largest Lutheran denomination and the dominant one across much of the Upper Midwest.

In-fighting among Lutherans has been seen in recent years within other mainline denominations such as Episcopalians and Presbyterians as they struggle with issues surrounding homosexuality, says Wendy Cadge, an associate professor of sociology at Brandeis University who studies religion in contemporary American culture.

"Some of these denominations have had these divisions since the 1980s, and the divisions become most clear around these kinds of social issues," Cadge says.

Now, the Rev. Paull Spring predicts that more than 200 churches will join the North American Lutheran Church by the end of 2011, he told the Centre Daily Times, a newspaper in his hometown of State College, Pa. The 18 churches which have joined so far are in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

Spring is chairman of Lutheran CORE, one of the reform groups helping to start the new denomination. Spring is also a nominee to become the new denomination's first bishop, who will serve an initial one-year term. Regional leaders, known as deans, will report to the bishop.

"By design, the people are only being elected for one year," said the Rev. David Baer of Whitewood, S.D., one of the leaders in Lutheran CORE. "The real intent is that Lutheran CORE is giving birth to this but not defining what it's going to look like forever. The people that join are going to make those decisions."

So far, 199 ELCA congregations nationwide have decided to leave the denomination since last summer's vote on gay clergy, says John Brooks, a spokesman for the Chicago-based denomination. More churches are voting later this year on whether to break ties with the ELCA.

Initially, Baer said, the new denomination will have its offices in the Twin Cities suburb of New Brighton, Minn., which also is home to WordAlone Ministries, a key group behind the reform efforts. ConserativeLutherans have long thought the ELCA was straying from Lutheran tradition and biblical authority.

Angered by a 1999 partnership with the Episcopal Church, Lutherans in the WordAlone Network began discussing the idea of forming a new denomination as early as fall 1999, according to accounts of meetings held across the country. ]]> The Press Stand Boanerges http://www.talkjesus.com/press-stand/33947-lutherans-opposed-gay-clergy-form-new-u-s-denominat.html http://www.talkjesus.com/new-members/33946-debbie.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:49:41 GMT Hi Everyone I am a new member from Cape Town South Africa Hi Everyone

I am a new member from Cape Town South Africa ]]> New Members Debbie http://www.talkjesus.com/new-members/33946-debbie.html http://www.talkjesus.com/poetry/33945-measure.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:41:31 GMT What is the measure you give to The Lord
Will you release all the wealth you have stored
Are you afraid that you haven't enough
Your stash lying idle for when times get tough
Have you got gifts that The Lords given you
Help to be given to those in a stew
Or can't you be bothered to pass on your time
To people in crisis with mountains to climb
For the measure you give is the measure you get
Your earthly possessions will turn into debt
And all you'll have left is the judges distain
Cause you've hidden your talent from heavenly gain
So trust in The Lord and be free with your wealth
His blessings will keep you in bountiful health
Store up your treasure in heaven and see
The good that you've done for the kingdom to be. ]]> Poetry Anglican http://www.talkjesus.com/poetry/33945-measure.html http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33944-guard-you-all-your-ways.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:38:56 GMT *HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU TO GUARD YOU IN ALL YOUR WAYS. ( PSALM 91:10 *NIV ) You may take comfort in knowing that God is always watching over us. He even sends us a guardian angel when we need one! For there are many examples of this written in the Scriptures. ( 1 KINGS 19:5;... HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU TO
GUARD YOU IN ALL YOUR WAYS.
( PSALM 91:10 *NIV )


You may take comfort in knowing that God is always
watching over us. He even sends us a guardian angel
when we need one! For there are many examples of this
written in the Scriptures. ( 1 KINGS 19:5; DANIEL 6:22;
MATTHEW 18:10; LUKE 16:22 & ACTS 12:7 )

After all it is also written of angels; THEY WILL LIFT YOU
UP IN THEIR HANDS, SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE
YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE. For; ARE NOT ALL
ANGELS MINISTERING SPIRITS SENT TO SERVE THOSE
WHO WILL INHERIT SALVATION? ( PSALM 91:12 ) &
( HEBREWS 1:14 )

Therefore, HE WHO DWELLS IN THE SHELTER OF THE
MOST HIGH WILL REST IN THE SHADOW OF THE
ALMIGHTY. And; "BECAUSE HE LOVES ME," SAYS THE
LORD, "I WILL RESCUE HIM; I WILL PROTECT HIM, FOR
HE ACKNOWLEDGES MY NAME. HE WILL CALL UPON
ME, AND I WILL ANSWER HIM; I WILL BE WITH HIM IN
TROUBLE, I WILL DELIVER HIM AND HONOR HIM.
( PSALM 91:1 ) & ( PSALM 91:14-15 )

So again, take comfort in knowing that our Heavenly
Father is always watching over us, and ready to send us help
when ever we need it! Therefore; BLESSED BE THE LORD
GOD OF ISRAEL FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING!
AND LET ALL THE PEOPLE SAY, "AMEN!"
( PSALM 106:48 )
]]> Daily Devotionals shortlady http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33944-guard-you-all-your-ways.html http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33943-daily-bread-silence-please.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:29:35 GMT *Daily Bread (Silence, Please!) Be still, and know that I am God. —Psalm 46:10 Our world has become increasingly noisy. But according to a news report, science has found a way to achieve absolute silence: “Scientists have shown off the blueprint for an ‘acoustic cloak,’ which could make objects impervious to sound waves. The technology,... Daily Bread (Silence, Please!)

Be still, and know that I am God. —Psalm 46:10

Our world has become increasingly noisy. But according to a news report, science has found a way to achieve absolute silence: “Scientists have shown off the blueprint for an ‘acoustic cloak,’ which could make objects impervious to sound waves. The technology, outlined in the New Journal of Physics, could be used to build sound-proof homes, advanced concert halls, or stealth warships.”

When we seek out a quiet place for devotional time with God, we may wish we had an “acoustic cloak.” But even if we could silence all external sound, the internal noises of worry would still reverberate in our minds. We are told: “Be still, and know that I am God” (Ps. 46:10). But how do we calm our hearts in practical terms?

God understands our dilemma and has provided His own “acoustic cloak” to quiet our hearts. It involves exchanging our cares for His peace. “Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus” (Phil. 4:6-7).

As we place our concerns in God’s capable hands, we find a quietness that only He can provide.


Be still and know that He is God
For pathways steep and rough;
Not what He brings but what
He is Will always be enough. —Anon.

God gives peace to those who are quiet before Him

]]> Lounge shortlady http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33943-daily-bread-silence-please.html http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33942-words-jesus-grace.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:05:49 GMT Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.


- 2 Peter 1:2

If you were to look up the Greek word that's translated "knowledge" in that scripture, you'd find out that it means more than just a mental understanding of something, more than the kind of knowledge that can be gained through your senses. It means exact knowledge. Knowledge that's been revealed directly to your heart by the Spirit of God. I call it revelation knowledge. The lack of that kind of knowledge has caused more faith failures than anything else I know. That's because most Christians believe the Word with their minds, but they haven't meditated on it enough for it to "light up" in their hearts. If they had, that Word would absolutely revolutionize their lives. Nothing in heaven or earth would be able to shake them loose from it. I know a widow who got hold of that kind of revelation one afternoon. She'd been meditating in the scriptures that say if you're a widow, God Almighty has taken His place as your provider and leader of your household. She'd been feeling a little sorry for herself up until then. But when she received the revelation that God was actually head of her household now, she started talking to Him like she would a husband. "I'm telling You, Lord, the plumbing in this house is pitiful. Will You please get it fixed?" she said. From that moment on, she never had any more trouble with her plumbing. If you need something from God, determine right now that you're going to do what that widow did. Determine that you're going to meditate the Word until you get a revelation like that. Keep that Word before you until you receive a revelation of Jesus as your healer or your deliverer or your financier--whatever you need Him to be. Don't settle for a shallow mental understanding of Him. Get a deep revelation and His grace will be multiplied to you!
Scripture Reading: Psalm 1. Faith, Love and Peace is All you need, Jesus has done All the hard work Amen. :teeth: ]]> Daily Devotionals faith2love http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33942-words-jesus-grace.html http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33941-word-4u-2day-work-2-a.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:40:32 GMT Work it (2)

'God cares about honesty in the workplace' Proverbs 16:11

If someone were to ask you today, 'Are you honest?' what would your answer be? Would you answer straightaway: 'I'm totally honest me!', or would you hesitate, wondering how best to answer, because you know deep down that you're not always truthful? 'GOD cares about honesty in the workplace; your business is His business.' That means whatever you're up to, whatever you get yourself into, God makes it His business too.

And whatever you're doing, whoever you're speaking to, He wants you to be honest. In fact, did you know that God hates lying? 'God hates ... more than that, He loathes with a passion ... a tongue that lies' (Prov. 6: 16-17 TM).

In Matthew 21:28-31, Jesus tells a story: 'A man with two sons told the older boy, "Son, go out and work in the vineyard today." The son answered, "No, I won't go," but later he changed his mind and went anyway. Then the father told the other son, "You go," and he said, "Yes, sir, I will." But he didn't go. Which of the two obeyed his father?' They replied, "The first."' (NLT).

Even though both sons lied, they both acted of the heart and it was their hearts that showed their real attitude. We may be able to fool others and get away with it, but we can't fool God. 'People judge by outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart' (1 Sam. 16:7 NLT). Whatever you're up to today, make sure your heart attitude is switched on to God.

written by Bob Gass ]]> Daily Devotionals ladylovesJesus http://www.talkjesus.com/daily-devotionals/33941-word-4u-2day-work-2-a.html http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33940-daily-your-presence-watchman.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:32:26 GMT THE WATCHMAN

The Lord watches over

all who love him.

Psalm 145:20

FROM THE FATHER'S HEART
My child, you can relax in My arms. I'm much more capable of protecting you than you are yourself. Are you terrorized by the events you see in My world? A thousand may fall all around you, but I will keep evil from your home. I am your watchman, and I have eyes in the back, front, and on the side! I can see in every direction what's coming your way. Nothing escapes My attention. Continue on faithfully, My child. I'm in control.

A GRATEFUL RESPONSE
Just like a faithful security guard, wary of every surrounding detail, You keep watch over my life. I trust You, Lord, for You see before me and behind me. In daylight or dark, from every direction, I feel Your awesome protection. Thank You for being my watchman.

SIMPLE TRUTH

We are never out of sight or out of mind. God's love and light reach farther than the eye can see.

For more from Rebecca, please visit Rebecca Barlow Jordan ]]> Lounge ladylovesJesus http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33940-daily-your-presence-watchman.html http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33938-repenting-behalf.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:06:47 GMT I jst stopped in the middle of my prayer; when I said I repent on behalf of.... I am now asking myself whether there is any such thing as repenting on behalf of someone else Is that the same as intercession; We can only repent on behalf of pple, but i feel that it is not enough, like an escapist way of not rebuking someone wat... I jst stopped in the middle of my prayer; when I said I repent on behalf of....

I am now asking myself whether there is any such thing as repenting on behalf of someone else
Is that the same as intercession;

We can only repent on behalf of pple, but i feel that it is not enough, like an escapist way of not rebuking someone

wat dyu say?:smile: ]]> Lounge imani http://www.talkjesus.com/lounge/33938-repenting-behalf.html http://www.talkjesus.com/prayer-request/33936-urgent-info-9-1-2-25pm.html Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:28:20 GMT Please pray for my older sister, Cathi Vogel.

Her liver is functioning VERY poorly & thus causing kidneys to fail.

She will be transferred to Duke ASAP.

Duke is moving Cathi up to Emergency Status for liver transplant, but tests have to be done 1st to make sure she can take surgery.

Her husband, Nick is in California for work while she is in Greensboro, NC & he can't get back to her until 1am tonight. ]]> Prayer Request rlowe http://www.talkjesus.com/prayer-request/33936-urgent-info-9-1-2-25pm.html