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01-22-08, 01:44 AM
I understand what you are saying gotime, we mustn't think we know everything yes, because we don't and no matter how old we are we still have a lot to learn. But there is still only one truth, and what if I believe I know something to be that truth? What if I believe God wants me to tell others about that truth? Telling someone that truth would mean that what they believe isn't true. God uses us to teach each other too, the Holy Spirit how ever will guide us into all truth.
John 8:31,32 "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 16:13 "But when he, the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth." We also can't sit back and let everyone be wrong in their ways, especially those that think they are living for Christ, but are not. If we know something it is our duty to tell them otherwise their blood is on our hands. Would you not warn a blind man of a car coming when he is trying to cross the road? Or a child you see getting too close to the edge of a pool? If something goes wrong, you will feel guilty. Same on judgment day. When God says, "I told you the truth and you didn't tell others who are now in hell". I always pray in every situation that God will convict me if I'm wrong and that He will show me the truth no matter what. I pray that God will show me my errors daily especially after making a post or telling someone what I believe to be true and I have no doubt that God will show me if I'm wrong and if He doesn't then I know that I was listening to Him and not myself. I believe I am teachable and humble before the Lord, but I must also be preach His word, in season and out of season to the ends of the earth. To believers and non-believers alike. We all have a lot to learn and time is running out. So I agree with you that we should be teachable but we should still teach. And teaching other denominations or people about other denominations is not denouncing them - it is educating them. Romans 10:14-15 " How then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, 'How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!'" You see Paul was confident that he was speaking the truth he didn't doubt what the Holy Spirit was telling him, yet he was always humble before the Lord. He said: Romans 9:1 "I speak the truth in Christ - I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit - I have great sorrow and increasing anguish in my heart." |
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01-22-08, 07:02 AM
God confirms what is His Word
Mark 16:20 1Cor 2:3-5 |
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01-22-08, 08:59 AM
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01-22-08, 08:43 PM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with being involved in a local church. But realize that being part of a group that calls itself a "church" does not make you saved, holy, righteous, or godly any more than being in Yankee Stadium makes you a professional baseball player. Participating in church-based activities does not necessarily draw you closer to god or prepare you for a life that satifies Him or enhances your existence. Being a member of a congregation does not make you spiritually righteous any more than being a member of the Democratic Party makes you a liberal wing nut. Being in a right relationship with God and His people is what matters. Scripture teaches us that devoting your life to loving God with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul is what honors Him. Being part of a local church may facilitate that. Or it may not. Sadly, many people will label this view "blasphemy". However, you should realize that the bible neither describes nor promotes the local church as we know it today. Many centuries ago relgious leaders created the prevalent form of "church" that is so widespread in our society to help people be better followers of Christ. But the local church many have come to cherish- the services, offices, programs, buildings, ceremonies- is either biblical nor unbiblical. It is abiblical- that is, such an organization is not addressed in the Bible. |
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01-23-08, 01:48 AM
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Seems like this man has a head on his shoulders. He has pretty much said a lot of what I've been trying to say. Don't know much about him so I can't speak for anything other than what you've quoted here. Thanx |
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quantify and regulate -
08-06-08, 05:33 AM
I qoute from lyrics by Winterborne Inquest:
"did the devil think it funny could the devil even see when Jesus held my hand as the church was failing me..." This thing that passes for church in this world nearly destroyed my life on more than one occasion. I cherish to this day a sacred hate for the need to quantify and regulate a relationship between man and God. |
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08-14-08, 09:56 AM
I agree that many churches have made themselves like a country club or social club, and with their charisma they project Christ as a product, with attractive new ideas in order to impress and flatter people, which way is driven by secular principles and practices, that has no lot in Christ. Nevertheless, I would say that as the original Churches were for the most part, “in the Church that is in their house”, was yet organized to the extent, that an orderly discussion was conducted, even I´m sure, when there was debates of an issue; but what I loved about the original Churches was, that most often they lasted all the day long, because fellowship was that important to them at that time, whereas now, for some unknown reason, fellowships limit themselves to an hour or so; but it seems to me that it ought to be the priority in every professing Christians life, and our secular matters should have to wait behind Christ in all things! Churches in someones house is intimate, and surely brings fellowship close in each others mutual faith. Our Lord drew large crowds, and so did the Apostles, yet when they dispersed, they would always have a Church fellowship in their house.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. |
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