Amen fellowservant. Cognitive, please check your your belief. This is Talk Jesus where we preach only the Holy Bible and nothing else. If that offends you then your in the wrong place. The fact that your all these religions speaks volumes of your beliefs and lack of biblical knowledge, not to mention respect of GOD's Word

Don't speak for sake of speaking. Its good to be silent sometimes as the Bible teaches us.

Ecclesiastes 3:7
a time to tear, and a time to sew;a time to keep silence, and a time to speak

They all contain Jesus

Yes, the name but only the Holy Bible TRULY contains the Savior Jesus Christ. Everything else is garbage talk.

Don't attempt to rebuke others when your not in the Word yourself, brother. That is not Christ like whatsoever.

Matthew 7:4
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?

Everyone on Talk Jesus does get a chance to speak but our member 4jesus has crossed the line numerous
times and no, you do not see that. Discipline is a commandment along with loving each other, isn't it? Yes for sure.

What I meant was that all the religions are an earthly group of people, who change certain parts of it to suit themselves.

The seed of many of them is JESUS.

By claiming I was part of them all, I meant that I wouldnt judge a man because of the religion he was held in, from choice or sometimes from birth. I would look at his heart. If he is a muslim hes my brother. We are all from Adam, so we are brothers regardless.

Whether a man has been blinded by satan to become muslim etc. Then I dont think we should blame the man. I pity those who have got close to JESUS through these religions. Yet the lies contained in these false gospels lead them astray.

Didnt GOD make each man? Does he still love them? When I study my bible JESUS teaches me something deeper than religion, religion is man made.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

You say I lack knowledge of the word of GOD because I am a part of all these religions. I dont confess to be a part of thier customs or thier lies, only as in brothers and sisters.

I am part of the same religion as JESUS himself, what religion was that?

Jesus was not part of a religion. Your words even contradict your own statement

Originally Posted by Cognitive

When I study my bible JESUS teaches me something deeper than religion, religion is man made.

I am part of the same religion as JESUS himself, what religion was that?

Then how is Jesus part of a religion if religion is man made? It is true religion is man made, therefore Jesus is not part of a religion.

Anyway, to get back on the thread topic, everything outside Scripture is false as we know it. To continue debating about how to approach muslims is fruitless because after all the Holy Spirit is the one working in you so we are not to interfere with Him but to submit to Him alone. That my friend is the greatest commandment. Love GOD first.

Yes its true Jesus wasnt a part of any religion. He went deeper than that, almost as if he was a part of all religions. Obviously my quote was a bit weird, hope you know what I meant now. I dont think he saw different religions, he only saw the man inside.

We should approach muslims as no different to any man.

The quran wont get you into heaven. Neither will being a muslim.

No religion will show you the way. I study Jesus and he never once told me that christianty, jehovas witnesses, roman catholics, muslims etc. can show me the way. When I mention it to any of those religions, that I want no part in them, they seem offended.

He is the way. The only way. So lets forget about these false gospels, and keep our thoughts in JESUS.

Originally Posted by Cognitive

The Greatest Commandment?
"To Love one another"
We have to remember that the eyes of all different religions have been tainted somewhat by men.
They all contain Jesus.
Even thinking about Mohammed is pointless. Nevermind discussing and falling out. That would not be Christlike at all. Satan has stirred up you brothers, who on other threads have been united as one. Dont let him.
I am Muslim, Hindu, Catholic and a Christian, if that offends you then you put religion before Christ.
I would treat each as my brother and sister.
God Bless.

Cognitive my brothers and sisters are those who hear the word of God and do it. If you are a muslim than you are NOT a christ follower. Jesus said in Matthew 6 that you can not serve two masters. You can not be a friend to everone or everyone you meet. If you are a friend to the world than you are an enemy to God and me.

All religions do not contain Jesus, and none of them are an expression of the Christ. Some even knowingly worship satan, are you part of that cult too? I think you need to reread and reconsidder your posts and you may want to edit them.

Jiggyfly I am not a part of any earthly religion. I follow only Christ.

You should pray on the meaning of this verse.

Mathew 5:43

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Also please ask JESUS what he means by "Love your neighbour"

Corinthians 13

If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 1but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Cognitive, if you follow only Christ, what do you do with this scripture, which is also His word?

2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

Quote Cognitive

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

End quote


Amen to that, as we see love rejoices with the truth, it does not rejoice with evil nor does it have any part in it. The love only doctrine without rebuke is not the correct doctrine according to Christ. Christ said it himself in the book of revelation that he rebukes the ones he loves to bring about repentance if possible. Paul told Timothy and Titus to do the same. Christ also said he hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans, and so did the Church (Revelation 2:6) . And this is the Church, remember that judement begins with us, not the world. The bible or word of God has two sides to it.




Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.


Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;


2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.


1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.


Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


The above scriptures are for us also, or teachers of the word, but this must be done in love, with all longsuffering and doctrine. The biggest problem we have today is when we do rebuke, the saint that is being reproved flies off the handle with pride, and says who do you think you are. So we must be patient and let God move on them, or maybe they were not real saints to begin with, its hard to know for sure online.

Thats why i like to let them alone till they cross the line and show thier true collors. Even then its hard to tell because not all have the same knowledge, some also have a zeal for God but its without knowledge. They are babes of the word, and some as babes, are trying to teach the word, this is not the correct way, you can't be a novice and teach the word, you will end up in a whole lot of trouble. A novice in the word should be asking questions, not answering them. Im not talking about the basics of doctrine in the word, its ok for a novice to teach basic scriptures, try to be carefull i quess, and be patient.

The sin of pride will not let us be wrong, the sin of pride won't humble its self, the sin of pride will destroy many a good saint, the sin of pride must be dealth with before it takes root, the sin of pride is one of the worst sins in the Church...


1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.


God bless

Thank you for your kind words Fellowservant as you try to sharpen a brother in the faith.
You truly are close to Christ and have an understanding of the importance of love. Without it we are nothing but a pharisee, an enemy of Christ. Speaking scripture, without love, is worthless.

I still with my study and bible have total love towards all men, regardless of their religion, I believe that Christ wants me to be this way. Some men may see a muslim, I see a brother caught in satans trap. I have love for him. If its satan telling me to love all men then I am sure it wont last long. I will pray to be shown the way. Thank you.


Cocunut.

The scripture to me means that you cannot be on both sides. Its either one or the other. It says that Christ has no wickedness in him, satan has no love in him. Those who believe in Christ should be free from evil also. Christ and satan have nothing in common neither should thier believers.

God Bless.

Originally Posted by Cognitive

Jiggyfly I am not a part of any earthly religion. I follow only Christ.
You should pray on the meaning of this verse.
Mathew 5:43
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Also please ask JESUS what he means by "Love your neighbour"
Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 1but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Cognitive, I suggest again reread your posts in this thread. it appears that you are confused, some of your statements are contradicting. Before I respond to you on the above post I wanted to give you an opertunity to correct yourself and your posts.