Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Here we have the Father calling the Son ho'Theos or Most High God, who am I to argue?

We can debate languages all we want, but when the Pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy by claiming to be the Son of God (heresy is false doctrine; blasphemy is direct slander against God) and attempted to stone Him, I find it hard to believe that Jesus established some sort of in-between rank when literally everybody who heard Him understood those words to be a claim to claim divinity. If all of this is a big misunderstanding, then Jesus must have been confused, too, because He accepted worship from Thomas after the holes-in-the-hand incident, going so far as to not correct Thomas when the disciple called Jesus, "My Lord and my God."

Originally Posted by Green Berean

We can debate languages all we want, but when the Pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy by claiming to be the Son of God (heresy is false doctrine; blasphemy is direct slander against God) and attempted to stone Him, I find it hard to believe that Jesus established some sort of in-between rank when literally everybody who heard Him understood those words to be a claim to claim divinity. If all of this is a big misunderstanding, then Jesus must have been confused, too, because He accepted worship from Thomas after the holes-in-the-hand incident, going so far as to not correct Thomas when the disciple called Jesus, "My Lord and my God."

upon the high priest joshua the lord commanded a crown be placed upon his head, thus signifying and foreshadowing that jesus was priest and king.

jesus's father is the greatest and is the king of all kings.

philip says to jesus, shew us the father...".

came the reply, "have i been so long time with you and you do not know me?"

if god is a spirit and god is holy then who is the holy spirit?

My lord and my god.

the Lord jesus christ and his father in him.

who would not bow before the son of god... men bow before the sons of kings.

did not jesus say, "i and my father will come and sup with him"? or I and my father are one.

I and my father.

Originally Posted by TouchTestimony

no offense meant, this is a question i read someplace else. care to answer?

"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"

As a Gentleman and Gospel preacher, having met Jesus, way back.......your question is an enigma. Ambiguity?...... You are the clown!

There is no douibt.......He....the Master said "Seek and you will find..........ect

Get looking......

humbleinhart, I'm not sure that I understood what you're trying to say. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily; that body (flesh) submits to the will of the Father; when murdered, that body was resurrected by the Holy Spirit. I'm not sure why people feel the need to argue it beyond that.

There is an order in the kingdom of God. God did not incarnate his whole being into flesh like the Egyptians thought that Pharoah was the actual embodiment of RA.

Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. The Word of God was with God in the beginning.

1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1Jn 1:4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

Jesus is going to give all back to the Father after Jesus accomplishes everything the Father has ordained for Him.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

Jesus is not the God above all gods, that position is only His Father's position. Jesus is King above all kings. God His Father has given Him all authority of the godhead, but the
God above all is still there, He is not His only begotten Son. That is Jesus' postition.

We are at the right hand of Jesus. His spirit indwells all those who are redeemed, but that does not make us Jesus! That makes us co-heirs with Jesus. We are with Christ just
as Christ is with His Father, the pre-incarnate Jesus, who is/was the Word of God was with God from the beginning.

There is no room for ambiguity. The Pharisees claimed He was blaspheming because in their culture to claim you were the "Son of God" was to literally declare you were God.

Additionally, Paul makes it clear that one thing that sets Jesus apart from all others who "ascended" to Heaven was He "descended" from Heaven. God came down to set His creation free:

Ephesians 4

“When he ascended on high he led a host of captives,
and he gave gifts to men.”<sup>[a]

9</sup> ( In saying, “He ascended,” what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower regions, the earth? ¹⁰ He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he mightfill all things.)

There is no ambiguity.

Here's what is said in the dictionary about what ancient Hebrews believed. Sorry cant post the link as I don't have enough posts for that.

Fundamentally, Judaism believes that God, as the creator of time, space, energy and matter, is beyond them, and cannot be born or die, or literally have a son. Judaism teaches that it is heretical for any man to claim to be God, part of God, or the literal son of God. The Jerusalem Talmud (Ta'anit2:1)states explicitly: "if a man claims to be God, he is a liar."

Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, not God Himself. That is what was heretical.

that is not how the scripture declares it for it tells you plainly they wanted to kill him because he made himself EQUAL to god, not because he made himself god.

i can be equal to my father in all ways yet I am not my father.

i can be equal to many things but that does not make me that thing nor would I be saying it.

to say, "i am equal to my father", is not to say, "I am my father".

I was gonna post the following as a reply to Mr. GreenBerean but I'll just put it here instead.

Is Jesus God?

Am I my body? No, my body is a vessel for the real me, like a car is a vessel for my body. Before god breathed into Adam’s nostrils he was not alive, there was just a body, no filling. Jesus, the word of god, was in the body prepared for him and god baptized him in the holy spirit. Did god baptize himself? No, that would be silly, the Father baptized his son.

Are you and your son the same person? But you and your son could be considered to be one, no? If someone were to attack or disrespect your son would you not feel it also? If a king sends his son to a far country and they treat him poorly will not that king go and destroy that nation and that king?

It is written, “I have said, ye are gods”. The people of Israel were gods - god said so - but were they “god”? No, but they should have been one with god. Jesus explained this very well in John 5:19 – 31.

The Pharisees did not seek to kill him because he made HIMSELF god but because, as it is written, he made himself EQUAL to god.

God prepared his word a body and then sacrificed that body, sacrificed his word, put it to death on a tree being cursed. What was his word up to that point? The law and prophets wrote what the word of god spoke to them!

Did he not say he would bring a curse upon that people if they did not turn from their ways?

Did he not say, “And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:”

I wonder why there is such a thrust to return to the name that was made a curse?

Jesus is his name… “I have come in my father’s name!”

As for Thomas exclaiming, “my lord AND my god”, it was because he finally realized that not only was the word of god in the body but so too the Father himself.

Originally Posted by amanhumblinhart

that is not how the scripture declares it for it tells you plainly they wanted to kill him because he made himself EQUAL to god, not because he made himself god.
to say, "i am equal to my father", is not to say, "I am my father".

Is Jesus God?

Am I my body? No, my body is a vessel for the real me, like a car is a vessel for my body. Before god breathed into Adam’s nostrils he was not alive, there was just a body, no filling. Jesus, the word of god, was in the body prepared for him and god baptized him in the holy spirit. Did god baptize himself? No, that would be silly, the Father baptized his son.

Are you and your son the same person? But you and your son could be considered to be one, no? If someone were to attack or disrespect your son would you not feel it also? If a king sends his son to a far country and they treat him poorly will not that king go and destroy that nation and that king?

It is written, “I have said, ye are gods”. The people of Israel were gods - god said so - but were they “god”? No, but they should have been one with god. Jesus explained this very well in John 5:19 – 31.

The Pharisees did not seek to kill him because he made HIMSELF god but because, as it is written, he made himself EQUAL to god.

God prepared his word a body and then sacrificed that body, sacrificed his word, put it to death on a tree being cursed. What was his word up to that point? The law and prophets wrote what the word of god spoke to them!

Did he not say he would bring a curse upon that people if they did not turn from their ways?

Did he not say, “And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:”

I wonder why there is such a thrust to return to the name that was made a curse?

Jesus is his name… “I have come in my father’s name!”

As for Thomas exclaiming, “my lord AND my god”, it was because he finally realized that not only was the word of god in the body but so too the Father himself.

So Jesus is cursed and bringing a curse upon us? The savior of the world? Really? The pharisee were right and Jesus was wrong?
When we are talking about God (capital G) and gods (lower case G) it is very important to put the correct one.
First your quote of Isaiah 65:15 is taken out of context... The name being cursed here is the Israelites that turned away from God (Isa 65:1-14) not Jesus' name.
In John 10:34, we are called gods (lower case G) as in lesser to god.
In John 20:28 Thomas called Jesus God (upper case G) as in most high God.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

As for Jesus merely being "like the father" or "like a God", he was God-like enough to create all of the heavens and the earth.
Col 1:16; John 1:3; John 1:10 - that's pretty God like. In fact I would say it is God.
Jesus' name itself means GOD with us.
Matt 1:23; Isa 7:14; Isa 9:6