Originally Posted by Brother Mike

ItinerantLurker:
for your third post you come off very arrogant and uninformed...

Natural selection never made anything.

Natural selection is a process by which organisms that are better adapted to their environments are more likely to survive and reproduce. I was pointing out that it's just plain silly to think that this process would result in organisms that weren't "well equipped for life", which should be jaw-droppingly obvious to anyone who actually understands what natural selection is.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

What more evidence do you need?? It was not evolving, but created that way.

Jesus Is Lord.

If you'd rather ignore the evidence we have from cosmology, genetics, biodistribution, geology, physics, chemistry, paleontology, and archaeology concerning history of the universe in favor of your interpretation of the Bible that's your call. However, that does not grant you exclusion from having your errors of fact pointed out. You don't have to believe the theory of evolution to understand it, but you do need to understand it in order to coherently criticize it. Enjoy.




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Originally Posted by Thiscrosshurts

I would like to add that all this data that science uses depends on the theory that time has always been constant.

Um. . .no actually it does not.

Recent science shows that time is relevant to mass and speed so our time is governed largely by our nearest largest mass.
This makes carbon dating more unreliable than first thought.(by science)

Fantastically wrong. Relativity explains gravity as the warping of spacetime by mass - this can produce time dilation. . .but it's only noticeable near very very very massive objects several orders of magnitude greater than the sun.

Relativity also predicts that time will pass slower the closer one gets to the speed of light for the observer. . .but again that only affects objects moving at or near the speed of light, which we aren't.

I have even heard a scientific theory that time would be dramatically faster the closer we got to the point of the big bang.Their calculations said from the point of the big bang to our galaxy would have been about 140 hrs.+/- 10%
That's six days.I heard of this(some science mag like Popular Science or Omni) in the mid 90's and never heard any more about it.

You heard wrong.

Darwin mistook adaptation within a species as proof that all species came to be that way.

No, Darwin found that the explanation that 50 or so species of finches living on a small group of islands were all created synonymously and separately ludicrous and instead developed a theory whereby the diversity of life is explained via descent with modification.

Scientists have actually been studying evolution in the last few centuries you know. Evolution is no longer all about Darwin.

Such faith I have not seen,no not in Israel.If we could produce that kind of faith there would be a lot of mountains under water.

There are a lot of mountains under water.




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Originally Posted by ItinerantLurker

Natural selection is a process by which organisms that are better adapted to their environments are more likely to survive and reproduce. I was pointing out that it's just plain silly to think that this process would result in organisms that weren't "well equipped for life", which should be jaw-droppingly obvious to anyone who actually understands what natural selection is.



If you'd rather ignore the evidence we have from cosmology, genetics, biodistribution, geology, physics, chemistry, paleontology, and archaeology concerning history of the universe in favor of your interpretation of the Bible that's your call. However, that does not grant you exclusion from having your errors of fact pointed out. You don't have to believe the theory of evolution to understand it, but you do need to understand it in order to coherently criticize it. Enjoy.




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funny that this "evidence" changes daily :)

You are all welcome to post your opinions and express your ideas but please be careful because rudeness is not allowed.

Originally Posted by Quenton

funny that this "evidence" changes daily :)

Typically, it changes by way of refinement vs. contradiction. After over 150 years of refinements to the theory of evolution, any kind of grand contradictions don't seem very likely.




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