Of course I don't know, but I've often felt that God is waiting for the harvest to be at it's maximum before the rapture. He knows the time and no one else. But of course God is certainly capable of knowing the future too. From what I've heard there is a significant amount of growth around the world right now in christian believers. My feelings are that this must reach it's pinnacle before God rescues His children. I'm not doubting that He already knows when this will be. We just need to be patient and keep reaching out to the lost with the truth. The more people that turn to Jesus the more we thwart the devil and prove the devil wrong about us. It's worth waiting for if you ask me, even if it means we must suffer while waiting.

well just to belong to Him, is enough for me, and I'm sure we're all agreed on that one.
Wether we get blessed or not, just look at what He did for us in laying down His life, and leaving His Holy Spirit, then all the promises of God, we really are special people.

Why don't people just wake up and see.

They can even come in church, love it, think, yes this is really good, people are so friendly here, my youngest son even said on his first visit, he felt love and joy in the place, but did he come back, no.
they are coming to the Nativity Drama next month, I pray to God it wil touch hardened hearts.

I know no one knows when this is to be only God does, but our Pastor said that the youth of the church would see Him come.
Another man prayed one night saying, 'if it's 50years till your coming Lord....
makes one think, personally I think it will be much farther away, but that's only my thinking, it could be tomorrow only God knows.
I looked up to the sky with great expectantcy this morning it looked like He could break through at any moment.

My youngest son never came to the Navitity Musical, after he being the one said about the love and joy there, and was really looking forward to it, he was too tired as he was to work on the next day, yes Sunday, so the Nativity got scrapped, but the seed was planted in the rest of them, so with prayer and blessing from the Lord, who knows what may come.

I praise Him for my little grandson of 10yr old who was saved last Sunday,
he too was at the Musical.
Oh to see him grow in God's path, I pray.

Maureen, that is wonderful news about your grandson! I am praying also for your son. I would just encourage you to stay out of God's way in this matter. We do that sometimes. We love someone and we want to see them saved and in a living relationship with the Lord, which is REAL LIFE. But borne out of these good desires, we sometimes can try to make it happen, impose our will, and well, MANIPULATE. Unfortunately, this can drive our loved ones further from us and from the Lord. He has planted seeds. He tends them and nurtures them. And He will bring the fruit.

Now, to the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. I have talked with many believers who believe the Day will come, but become nervous or even fearful if its suggested that it may happen within their lifetime. Why do you all suppose that is? I'd love to hear thoughts on this. I think this is becoming a chapter in the book I'm writing on religion. Its called Leaven of the Parisees.

Hadoz,
We are in a time such as never before in history. Israel has been restored as a nation, and endtime prophesies regarding Israel are being fulfilled daily right before our eyes. In the world, people are looking for hope and salvation in places other than Jesus Christ. Economically, the world is preparing to recieve a global electronic currency. The EU seems to be a fulfillment of the kingdom from which the antichrist rises and has power over all the world.
But most importantly, ther has never been such technological capability to reach every human on Earth with the gospel. The fact that its not happening to the fullest potential is to the shame of believers. We live in a world where it is considered socially and politically incorrect, even immoral to preach the gospel, which is being branded as exclusionary, judgmental, and even demoted to "our opinion". Christians are often afraid of offending. In some environments in the USA, believers refusing to stop sharing their faith lose their jobs and are even sometimes jailed. What a tremendously exciting time we live in! It's that environment that will separate the true believers from the lukewarm that love this world and the things of this world.

I couldn't agree with you more Mike!
What it seems to me is happening is that the foundation for the anti-christ, the one world religion and government, is being poured right now. The "world" is ripening for these three things as we speak. It doesn't surprise me that the name of Jesus has become taboo in our culture today, there are many spiritual forces at work against the coming kingdom of God and "they" hate the name of Jesus. They will not prevail however. Jesus has already conquered the evil forces of spiritual wickedness don't doubt that for a minute! But, the dilemma for us, the believers, is how to convince the lost, those who are now more caught up in the lies and deception than any previous generation has ever been. It seems that the wall of separation has grown much taller and thicker than ever before, yet another sign that Jesus is soon to return. But, God's Holy Spirit is also moving more and more to help us to overcome this wall. We need to be vigilant and keep on trying to reach the lost, the athiests, witches, wiccans, agnostics, pagans and all others who have surrounded themselves with a shroud of lies and deception that keeps them from believing in the truth, the truth of God, that Jesus died for our sins and is the only way out of this evil world and it's ultimate fate of death and destruction. I know this sounds like I'm over reacting but we are indeed at war with spritual forces of wickedness that seek to deceive us all and keep us from a saving relationship with the living God. It's evident in virtually every nook and cranny of life and the culture and world we're living in today. When we as the body of Christ realize what is at stake and what exactly we're up against, we will know what we have to do and how to combat these forces. It isn't pretty I agree but never-the-less it's what we're faced with.
Speak the truth! What comes out of our mouths is powerful when it's the truth of God! The forces of evil cannot prevail against the truth, no lie can! Everything satan says is a lie and the best way to combat this, for the sake of our lost brothers and sisters, is to speak the truth! We know the truth, it's in the Bible! So lets speak it boldly.

Mike
are you seriously writing a book called that? wow, I'd love to buy it when it's published, put my name down for a copy please, but seriously let me know when you finish it.
I do agree, we can take up ourselves and try to run on ahead of Jesus thinking we know how to do it, I know, hand up, guilty.
I have had to learn how to 'leave' it to Him, and step back, even though I was itching to speak, or do, I didn't, and I saw God work.
That very statment was brought as a word in tongues one night in the prayer meeting months ago, to leave it to God, stop trying your selves.

I use to let it steal my joy, that was satan's lies to me though, 'your not doing enough to help point you family' then I refused to believe him, told him to flee in Jesus name, and my joy returened ten fold.

I don't understand why any Christian wouldn't want Jesus to return right now, except for our unsaved loved ones, but that's not our fault they have their choice to make to, free will, I personally think myself the unsaved see Christianity as 'having to give up good times' they don't realize Jesus removes the desire for the things of this world, it's not our doing, but they see it as it's something we do ourselves and then they think I can't do that I'm not that strong willed, my husband said this to me I tried to explain it wasn't in my strength as I couldn't do it, it was in the strength of Jesus but I know he really didn't understand or couldn't believe that.
All they see is, I'd have to give up my social life, or my smoking, or partying, and have to go to church and have to read my Bible, and go to prayer meetings, oh shucks, can't heck that......when the opposite happens, these latter things become desires and enjoyment, but it's not until you 'taste and see that the Lord is good' that you know this.

My husband see's Jesus lived out in my life, thinks it's great, but still doesn't want Him for himself, well not yet.
Now if it were me in his shoes, I'd be thinking, the Lord is really doing something with him, if he can do that in him, he can in me.
Guess his mind doesn't work along my lines though.
He has said he can't give up his social life, he likes it too much.
Again, doesn't realize Jesus can help him do just that.

Sorry I've gotten of track again, I would love for our Lord Jesus to just burst through the clouds, families have had their options.
My Spiritual Birthday is today with the Lord's, Christmas day, it wasn't planned to be, it just happened to be, He reached down and called me today 5 years ago, and it's been the greatest 5 years of my life.

Have a Blessed Christmas Day all brothers and sister in Christ Jesus

Good day. I'm new to this site, but so far it is very exciting. I just need some quick explanation on the number of kings you mention in your reply to the 10 end time prophesies, please?
and I wonder whether the antichrist will be one single human being, or maybe a nation or a party (group of people)?
Thank you
God bless!

ah Ria welcome
I'm sorry I can't answer you question, wonder is all I can do too.
There are plenty on here who can though, and I know they will be along.

so if you just hang around they will arrive, answers and all, supplied
by Jesus.

stay around with us, its nice when new folk visit, but it's even
nicer when they stay around.
Lordbless you for arriving.

Originally Posted by mikemattice

Maureen,
There is a doctrine being taught from pulpits which I believe is anti-biblical. It is that Jesus cannot return until the sons (and daughters) of God take dominion over the Earth. I believe this, if it were true, would give us power over God to initiate or thwart His plan.

There are many in our government that plan to do just that. Neo-Cons have seized upon this ideology, and wish to hasten Christs return.

Revelation 6:1-2
1.Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see."
2.And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Originally Posted by Ria

Good day. I'm new to this site, but so far it is very exciting. I just need some quick explanation on the number of kings you mention in your reply to the 10 end time prophesies, please?
and I wonder whether the antichrist will be one single human being, or maybe a nation or a party (group of people)?
Thank you
God bless!

Revelation 17:10-11
10.There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11."And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

One of the seven kings, is also the eighth king. The eighth king will have ruled before as one of the seven. Meaning, one of the seven kings will return to rule again. When the anti-christs mortal wound is healed, he will rise as the eighth king.



Revelation 17:12
12."The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.

The Bible tells us they are ten kings that have no kingdom yet. This would suggest they are ten people. Though I do believe they will rise from the EU, it is not ten nations.

The anti-christ will be an individual.


Praise the Lord of Glory,
Rog