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    Jerusalem As The Great City Babylon Harlot

    The end time Babylon Harlot is a "great city", not the EU, not Rome, not New York or America, etc. The phrase "great city" is mentioned 11 times in the Book of Revelation, and in final it is about the Holy Jerusalem descending down out of Heaven from God.

    Here is the first "great city" pointer in Revelation:

    Rev 11:8
    8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
    (KJV)

    That's about God's two witnesses being killed with the dead bodies being left laying in the street. Where was our Lord Jesus of Nazareth crucified? At Jerusalem. In Isaiah 1 and Jeremiah 23 God called the leaders of Jerusalem that had led His people astray as rulers of Sodom and Gomorrah. So this Rev.11:8 verse is the first huge clue that Jerusalem is the subject of the final Babylon Harlot of Revelation.

    The following verse reveals the Babylon Harlot is about a "great city":

    Rev 17:17-18
    17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil His will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
    18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    (KJV)


    In final though, the Babylon Harlot Jerusalem for the end is to be replaced with The Holy Jerusalem from above:

    Rev 21:9-10
    9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
    10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
    (KJV)

    So how can this be about Jerusalem some might be wondering?

    It's because just as Judah fell away in old times that caused God to bring the king of Babylon upon them and take Jerusalem, and then carry them captive to Babylon for 70 years, likewise Judah's falling away to reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ with the object to build a third temple in Jerusalem and start up the Old Testament sacrificial worship again is going to cause its final destruction.

    Jerusalem is where our Lord Jesus warned about the "abomination of desolation" idol of the Book of Daniel being setup there, and for those of His there to flee Jerusalem when they see that event unfold. The Romans in 70 A.D. never fulfilled the placing of that abomination idol in the holy place because the temple burned down before they could get possession of it (per Jewish historian Josephus).

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    The great Harlot that Revelation 17 talks about is not Jerusalem but the Roman Catholic Church.

    The Bible tells us that the true Church is the Bride of Christ.

    2 Corinthians 11:2
    “ For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ.”
    Reveation 19:7-9
    Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, these are the true sayings of God.
    And a False Church in other words, a Harlot. A “church” that profanes and violates the Word of God.
    Revelation 17:3-6
    “….and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus…”

    Who else sits on the world government? Who else profaned that Word of God? Who else is teaches false doctrine and pagan beliefs? Who else enjoys vast riches from corruption and false beliefs? - The Roman Catholic Church.

    Sorry for my grammar, English is not my first language. God Bless us all.

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    I disagree.

    The end time Babylon Harlot of Revelation is pointing directly to false worship in Jerusalem for the very end of this world (Rev.11:8; 2 Thess.2:3-4; Rev.13:11-18; Matt.24:23-26; Daniel 9:27).

    Could that false worship at Jerusalem when the coming Antichrist gets here involve quasi Christian sects that fall away from the Truth? Yes.

    The "one world government" today is still being setup. It is not yet fully established. The orthodox Jews in Jerusalem have the materials ready to build another temple, have cornerstones already cut, have the temple articles about ready, and have been drafting Levites for the priesthood and temple service. It's just a matter of time.

    Also, Jerusalem as a Bride is clearly shown in that Revelation 21 Scripture. God did say He married Jerusalem in the Old Testament prophets ya know.
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    Originally Posted by NoHype View Post
    I disagree.

    The end time Babylon Harlot of Revelation is pointing directly to false worship in Jerusalem for the very end of this world (Rev.11:8; 2 Thess.2:3-4; Rev.13:11-18; Matt.24:23-26; DDaniel 9:27.

    Could that false worship at Jerusalem when the coming Antichrist gets here involve quasi Christian sects that fall away from the Truth? Yes.

    The "one world government" today is still being setup. It is not yet fully established. The orthodox Jews in Jerusalem have the materials ready to build another temple, have cornerstones already cut, have the temple articles about ready, and have been drafting Levites for the priesthood and temple service. It's just a matter of time.

    Also, Jerusalem as a Bride is clearly shown in that Revelation 21 Scripture. God did say He married Jerusalem in the Old Testament prophets ya know.
    Luke 17:20-21, "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered and said unto them, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
    Last edited by HarpT; 01-24-14 at 10:48 AM.

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    Truly God's Kingdom will not come with the ocular fleshy vision. It's because God's Heavenly Abode is in and of a different dimension than this earth's. But when Christ Jesus returns as written, then the Heavenly will be revealed to all nations, the veil removed, and death swallowed up in victory for those in Christ Jesus (Isaiah 25; 1 Cor.15).

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    How could Jerusalem be comparable to Babylon at the end of this world, some might be thinking?

    It is mainly because that's where God said He chose to dwell forever, and Satan covets God's place because that's what his sin against God was about when he first rebelled. Per the OT prophet Ezekiel, God originally created Satan as an anointed cherub that covereth. That means it was once Satan's job to guard God's Throne. That was his job before he rebelled. Satan was originally a very high servant to God.

    If you can receive it, the end of this world will not be the first time that Satan will have tried to establish his kingdom on earth with ten horns and seven heads (per the one of Rev.13:1). Back in Rev.12:3-4 an older beast kingdom is mentioned, and its number of crowns is different than the one of Rev.13:1. Also, that one of Rev.12:3-4 is being given in context with the time when Satan originally rebelled against God and drew a third of the angels into rebellion along with him. It's very important also to be mindful that Satan did that rebellion prior to Adam and Eve in God's Garden.

    Did Satan in that time of old when he first rebelled with that Rev.12:3-4 ten horn, seven head, seven crown beast kingdom, try to establish its seat in the area where Jerusalem is today? In my opinion I think so. Since his sin was about coveting God's Throne in wanting to be God, and God chose Jerusalem, I believe that's where God's Eden was before He removed off this earth after Adam and Eve's sin (per end of Gen.3).

    When we get to later history in Genesis about the area of Jerusalem, it was not called that. It was in control by the pagan Jebusites who called the city Jebus (means 'threshing place"). In Ezekiel 16 God gives a little history of Jerusalem when it was in possession of the pagan Jebusite idolaters, and how He cleansed the city and married it.

    When God told Abram (later Abraham) to get out of the land of Ur and go to Canaan, we find this tidbit pointing to Canaanite control of Jerusalem even when God then said He was giving those lands to Abraham's seed after him...

    Gen 12:6-7
    6 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.
    7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, Who appeared unto him.
    (KJV)

    The Books of Genesis and Revelation have many direct parallels, and this is just one of them. Beginning in Genesis Satan's followers had possession of Jerusalem and had to be removed from it. In Revelation at the end they gain possession and control of Jerusalem again and will have to be driven out once again, this next time by our Lord Jesus Himself at His second coming.

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    Revelation 11:1-2
    Revelation 11

    1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
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    But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    The antichrist will be given power by the 10 kings and then they destroy harlot Babylon. Since the antichrist is going into the temple and going to control Jerusalem for the last 42 months of the tribulation, Jerusalem can't be Harlot Babylon.

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    Originally Posted by Eric E Stahl View Post
    Revelation 11:1-2

    Revelation 11
    1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
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    But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    The antichrist will be given power by the 10 kings and then they destroy harlot Babylon. Since the antichrist is going into the temple and going to control Jerusalem for the last 42 months of the tribulation, Jerusalem can't be Harlot Babylon.
    That last paragraph doesn't make sense.

    Since the Babylon Harlot of Rev.17 we are shown is a "great city", and Antichrist will rule over it the last 42 months, it can't mean Jerusalem??? How does that idea prove it's not Jerusalem, for it doesn't, not even a little bit.

    Even in that Rev.11:1-2 verses with the Gentiles treading the outer courts of the temple complex in Jerusalem for the 42 months should... have given you a huge clue that it's about the city of Jerusalem and not anywhere else!

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    In prophecy a woman is a church. bride of christ....christian church. the woman in revelation 12.... isreal. mysterybabylon the mother of harlots AND ALL ABOMINATIONS is the church of the enemy. this "church" is all over the world and has been for a long time. consider what JFK said in a speech, it is against these secret societies that we are against, and the very mention of them is.... now who assasinated JFK.... still a mystery however today, well every since Regan every single president has spoken of a new world order. if you look up the nwo's charters online you see some documents date back to the 1960's to disarm america, and it speaks of a war to end all wars and a world with no more wars... peace peace but a flase peace. mysterybabylon is all over the world. thats why this woman mystery babylon mother of harlots and all abominations rides on the back of the beast which is the nations/world powers/kings or world leaders/whatever interpretation of the word you want to use.
    as to the actual place that in revelations talks about babylon in one hour being destroyed and as her smoke rose up merchants stood afar off wailing.... We can only speculate. My speculation says its the good ole USA. all our oil goes overseas, well most of it. so "merchants wouldn't be able to buy our products anymore" you can pick two countries and add their annual homicide rate and then compare to Americas annual homicide rate and USA has the higher rate. last I checked on average USA aborts 4000 babies a day, every day. And this isnt even touching on what our government does/military or just basic immorality and blatant rejection of God. America is the most wicked nation in the world. even if the USA isnt Babylon you can sure see reason to expect for judgment if there isnt serious repentance soon.

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    Originally Posted by NoHype View Post
    That last paragraph doesn't make sense.

    Since the Babylon Harlot of Rev.17 we are shown is a "great city", and Antichrist will rule over it the last 42 months, it can't mean Jerusalem??? How does that idea prove it's not Jerusalem, for it doesn't, not even a little bit.

    Even in that Rev.11:1-2 verses with the Gentiles treading the outer courts of the temple complex in Jerusalem for the 42 months should... have given you a huge clue that it's about the city of Jerusalem and not anywhere else!
    The ten kings are going to destroy harlot Babylon in the middle of the tribulation.Since 666 is going to go into the temple and is going to control Jerusalem for 42 months it can't be destroyed.

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