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    CONCEPT OF GOD IN CHRISTIANITY





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    Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:



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    Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).



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    We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).



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    We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.



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    We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).



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    We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.



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    We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.


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    CONCEPT OF GOD IN CHRISTIANITY:



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    Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity



    One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):
    (i) "My Father is greater than I."
    [The Bible, John 14:28]

    (ii) "My Father is greater than all."
    [The Bible, John 10:29]

    (iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
    [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

    (iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
    [The Bible, Luke 11:20]

    (v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
    [The Bible, John 5:30]



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    You need to do a lot more bible reading my friend, it will do you some good and open your eyes to the truth.

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    Psa 62:5 My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

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    I second that Boanerges,even a little reading with an open mind would be beneficial. Mosa does Jesus Christ hold the place of preeminence within Islam?
    Religion is an ugly tyrant.

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    Yes indeed, Jesus said, "I AM"

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    If Allah and God were ONE and the same GOD, Allah would agree completely with all the WORD of GOD, and thus certainly would agree on the divinity of the SON. Since your Allah denies the divinity of CHRIST, then your Allah CANNOT be GOD. The parting of ways began and can never end between the Islamic Allah, and the Christian GOD when GOD said "I AM the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another." [Isa 42:8]



    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will do this.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. He was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. [14] The WORD became flesh and tabernacled among us. We gazed on his glory, the kind of glory that belongs to the Father's unique SON, full of grace and truth.


    Joh 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coconut View Post
    If Allah and God were ONE and the same GOD, Allah would agree completely with all the WORD of GOD, and thus certainly would agree on the divinity of the SON. Since your Allah denies the divinity of CHRIST, then your Allah CANNOT be GOD. The parting of ways began and can never end between the Islamic Allah, and the Christian GOD when GOD said "I AM the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another." [Isa 42:8]



    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of Hosts will do this.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. He was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. [14] The WORD became flesh and tabernacled among us. We gazed on his glory, the kind of glory that belongs to the Father's unique SON, full of grace and truth.


    Joh 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.

    is jesus God ?

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    Jesus is God.

    Qur'an 112:1–4. "Say: He, Allah, is One. Allah is He on Whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And none is like Him."

    The Qur`an itself provides the proof Allah is not the same GOD as the GOD of Israel whom we serve.

    Hos 13:4 But I am the LORD your God from the land of Egypt; you know no God but me, and besides me there is no Savior.

    Luke 2:9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. Then the angel said to them, "Stop being afraid! Listen! I am bringing you good news of great joy for all the people. Today your Savior, Christ the Lord, was born in the city of David.

    Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth; And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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    this topic

    is a little too deep for me..but i find it very interesting. this has been brought up in other conversations and now the way it is being shown the one true God is beautiful..i dont have to be on meat to know who the one true God is..but i can understand others with different beliefs but i have a hard time explaining it the way this is going..coconut your doing a great job..keep up the good work.
    By HIS Grace,Nancy

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    Jesus is indeed God but Allah is no god. He is a pretender.


    From the archeological section of Bible Believers:

    The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al- ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al- ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

    The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

    This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.
    Psa 62:5 My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

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