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    Revelatons from a different perspective

    Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and I was just wanting to share some things I've come to learn in the past couple of years hopefully get a good discussion going. I was listening to a pasture talking about the Feasts of the Lord a couple of years ago and then everything started falling into place. The pasture talked about the Feast of Trumpets and how the Jews have always believed that it would be the day that the Messiah would come. It's called the day of blowing, the hidden day, the day of the opening of the books and the gates.

    When I heard the opening of the books I immediately thought of the seven seals of Revelations. I began studying the Feast of Trumpets. I learned that it is the only feast that begins on a new moon and that the new moon has to be verified by two witnesses. I thought that was a pretty good picture of the two witnesses of Revelations. It's also the memorial of the day that the Lord came down on Mt Sinai to give the law to His people, and then called Moses and Joshua into the cloud on the seventh day (a picture of the rapture)

    Then the story of Jericho popped into my head. The story of Jericho is the perfect picture of Revelations. It is the entering in of the promised land. Symbolically you see the fall feast fulfilled in reverse. It actually happens in the month of Nissan because the people observe the spring feast after they cross the Jordan. But starting at Jericho as a picture of the Feast of Trumpets and working your way back to the wilderness. You see the Feast of Trumpets at Jericho, then Jesus (as the angel of the Lord) appears to Joshua. You know this is Jesus because angels don't allow themselves to be worshiped but this angel told Joshua to remove his shoes because he is on holy ground. You then see the crossing of the Jordan which is a picture of the Feast of Atonement (repentance) and finally end up in the wilderness a picture of the Feast of Tabernacles.

    Joshua being a messianic figure I wanted to study the book closer. After the taking of Jericho I found the first mention of Babylon in the bible. Achan in Joshua 7 had taken a Babylonish garment and was judged by being stoned to death and burned with fire, which is the same judgment that the city of Babylon receives in Revelations.

    Joshua then goes on to fight the kings of the land. In chapter 10 there is the picture of the five fallen kings of revelations. Joshua finds the five kings that escaped the fire from heaven sent down by God, hiding in a cave. He then rolls a stone in front of it making it a tomb. Finally in chapter 11 you see Jabin King of Hazor who is the ultimate ruler of all of the kingdoms, is a picture of the false messiah who will be the ultimate ruler of a one world government. When he is defeated he gets the same judgment as the false messiah in Revelations. He is stoned and burned with fire. To my knowledge being burned with fire is not a very common judgment in the bible. The only other times that it is mentioned is in Revelations referring to the harlot Babylon and the false prophet and messiah.

    I wanted to know more about the trumpets so I studied every place I could find them mentioned in the bible. First starting with the memorial of the Feast of Trumpets in Lev 23 then instructions on when to use them in Num 10. “They shall be for the journeying of the camps” (a picture of the rapture) “when you sound an alarm you shall be remembered” (a picture of the rapture) “They will be blown on the beginning of feasts and beginning of months.”

    After I read all of this it started to make sense that the 7 trumpets of Revelations are a picture of the 7 Feasts of the Lord. The 7th seal is opened and there is silence in heaven for about half an hour. Well if the seal is opened on the Feast of Trumpets then the 1st trumpet would be on the Day of Atonement. That would make the 2nd trumpet Tabernacles, the 3rd Passover, the 4th Unleavened Bread, and the 5th First Fruits. The 5th trumpet is the only one with a time in it. 5 months the locusts from the bottomless pit will torment the people of the earth. That would end on the right around the 7th trumpet at the Feast of Trumpets.

    All of this started to bother me because I had always believed a pretribulation rapture and I definitely didn't want to go through any of the seventh seal. So I started studying the seals closely and I found something that I had never noticed before. The messages to the churches in Rev 2&3 have a promise at the end of each message that relates to the seal being opened. They all begin with “anyone who has an ear” or “victor”.

    1st seal- he will go out as a victor
    1st promise- the word "victor" and he will eat from the tree of life.

    2nd seal- He will be given a large sword to kill
    2nd promise- the victor will not be harmed

    3rd seal- a days wage for bread
    3rd promise- the victor will receive the hidden manna

    4th seal- he will be given authority
    4th promise- the victor will be given authority

    5th seal-a white robe is given to each of them
    5th promise- the victor will be given a white robe

    6th seal- a violent earthquake and who is able to stand
    6th promise- the victor will be a pillar in the house of the Lord to stand forever

    7th seal- wrath of God trumpets and bowls being poured out on the earth.
    7th promise- the victor will sit with me in my throne.

    This Church of Philadelphia is promised that they won't see the wrath of God. I realized that these aren't 7 different churches, but the ONE church of God or the Bride of Messiah over 7 different years. Each message to a church is telling us to clean up a different thing, until it gets to the 6th church of Philadelphia who is found blameless and will be raptured before the opening of the 7th seal. You see the great earthquake in the 6th seal and then in Rev 7:9 after the 144,000 are sealed for protection you see the great multitude in heaven from the great tribulation 7:14 all wearing white robes. This is the first time there is a multitude in heaven mentioned. In Rev 4 John is called up in the spirit and only sees the elders and the cherubim and the sea of glass is empty.

    I thought this was awesome news but I then found that the phrases “Anyone who has an ear” and the word “victor” (or over comer depending on what translation you have) are in a menorah type configuration. In the first 3 messages the phrase “anyone who has an ear” comes before “victor” and in the last 3 churches, “victor” comes before “anyone who has an ear”. I had seen someone on the internet teaching about the psalm menorah saying that Jesus will be coming back in 2017 because of the Psalms Menorah. I didn't really pay much attention to it at the time, I just thought it was interesting, but now that info popped back in my head because of the structure.

    The Psalms Menorah refers to Psalms 111-117 and the guy was comparing them to the 7 years of tribulation. I just thought it was interesting when I first saw it but when I noticed the structure again in the messages to the churches I thought that I would give it another look. Psalms 111-113 begin with “Hallelujah” or “Praise the Lord” depending on your translation. Psalms 115-117 end with “Hallelujah” or “Praise the Lord”. Psalms 114 doesn't have any praise at all and is related with the 4th seal that is a very hard year full of persecution.

    I found out that the exact middle chapter of the bible is Psalm 117. It is also the shortest chapter in the bible. Reading each of the Psalms they read from the perspective of the seal that they would correspond with. That would make Psalm 118 the beginning of the millennial reign and if you read it with that in mind then you will see that is exactly what it is a picture of. “They compassed me about like bees” “The Lord has become my salvation” “Open to me the gates” “The stone which the builders rejected has become the corner” (goes right along with “He has begun to reign” in Rev 19) Then after 118 comes the longest chapter in the bible 119, which I think is a perfect picture of eternity. It does nothing but speak of how great and perfect God and His commandments are “sweeter than honey” 22 stanzas in 119, one for every letter in the Hebrew alphabet (the word of God)

    At this point I'm starting to think that this is way too perfect to be a coincidence. If God can inspire the writing of the entire bible, can He also inspire the people who put it in order for us in the KJV? It sounds really flimsy, but then I find Psalms 11-19 match 111-119 perfectly. It looks like 11-19 are written from the perspective of the 144,000 that go through the last year and each Psalm is a picture of one of the trumpets of Revelations. It is amazing to read these Psalms from this perspective and I hope that you will at least give it a read and compare the words in the Psalms with the seals and messages.

    Then naturally I had to know when the bowls of wrath were to be poured out. This one gave me a lot of trouble because each of the bowls match each of the seals, so it would make sense that they were poured out at the same time but affect different people (Those who had taken the mark and those who hadn't). This didn't sit well in my spirit though because it didn't make sense to think that people could go 7 months with nothing but blood to drink. Also how can you make 1/3rd of the waters blood and all of the waters blood at the same time. Like the 4th trumpet and bowl 1/3 of the sun is darkened and the bowl the sun scorches people, so they all match on the things that they're being poured on they just don't make sense.

    Then I realized that the mark doesn't come until the false messiah is slain and risen again. Then the false prophet will make an image of the beast and cause people to take his mark. So when is the image of the beast set up? Well I only know of one definite reference to that in the book of Daniel 12:11-12. “1290 days from the taking away of the sacrifice. Blessed is he that makes it to 1335 days.” There is only one 45 day period that makes sense. The 15th of Av which begins the grape harvest of Israel and also the marriage season. Looking at this day the bowls would be poured out on each Sabbath following the 15th of Av. (Tu' B Av)

    The 9th of Av (Tishri B' Av) is a fast that Israel keeps. They say its because both temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av, but they were observing the fast before the second one was destroyed. In the book of Zech 8:19 God tells them that it is not a fast day, and to love the truth. The truth is that He told them not to add to or take away from His commandments and His feasts are commandments to the people according to Lev 23. There is a reason not to add to or take away from them and that's because each of the feasts are pictures for us. He calls them Holy Convocations or Holy Rehearsals of the LORD, not the feast of the Jews. These are feasts that honor God and help us to see the whole picture. I believe it is impossible to understand the book of Revelations without understanding the Feasts of the Lord.

    Back on track, so the 15th of Av begins the grape harvest and Revelations 14:10, 19-20 clearly refer to the wrath of God as wine. But the winepress isn't trampled by Jesus until after His people are out of the way in Rev 19:15. It is also the marriage season of Israel and it last 55 days ending on the Day of Atonement or the 10th day of the 7th month. This would go along with what Jesus said in Matt 24:37-38. “Like in the days of Noah, they were eating, drinking and giving in marriage”

    So if the 15th of Av is the 1290th day then the 1335th day would be the 1st of Tishrei or the Feast of Trumpets. A bowl would be poured out every Sabbath following that day. During the week of the 6th bowl there is a rapture in Rev 16:15 where Jesus says out of nowhere “LOOK I come as a thief” That would be the Feast of Trumpets, then He gathers the armies together at Armageddon and pours out the final bowl of judgment.

    Counting backwards 1290 days from the 15th of Av brings you to the New Year after the opening of the 4th seal. That doesn't answer exactly when the man of sin is revealed though. Putting all of these things in order was a problem at first because Revelations is written like a riddle. I knew that the beast from the bottomless pit kills the two witnesses Rev 11:7 then we see that their ministry is 1260 days. We see that this is the second WOE and that the third is coming quickly. So now I was stuck trying to figure out what these woes were and what they pertained to.

    I started with the first declared woe of the 5th trumpet and the star falling from heaven in Rev 9. Falling from heaven can only be talking about lucifer. (Isa 14:12, Lk 10:18) and Matt 24:29 talks about the third of the stars that fall with him “after the tribulation of those days...and heaven will be shaken” referring to the war in heaven Rev 12. So the 5th trumpet which will be the Feast of First Fruits (and I also believe easter that year) the man of sin will be resurrected. If he is coming as a false messiah then it would make sense for him to fulfill the prophecies of the messiah so that Israel would accept him. So the week before he will be cut off on Passover then the false prophet will call down fire from heaven on the 3rd day (lucifer falling from heaven) he will be resurrected and the beast from the bottomless pit will pretty much take over his body.

    At the 6th trumpet the false messiah raises an army to kill everyone that will not follow him because he knows he only has a short time. Rev 12:12. The 6th trumpet happens in the 3rd month at the feast of Pentecost. He then takes his army to Jerusalem in the 5th month and conquers it on the 9th of Av (Israel wants to observe a fast that God told them not to, then He will give them a reason to observe it) after the city is conquered then the false prophet will cause the people to set up an image of the beast in the temple on the 15th of Av. Everyone will worship it and receive a mark. There is no food or water at this point that isn't under the antichrist control. No one can grow their own because the plagues that have been going on for the last year.

    Immediately following the image of the beast the 7 bowls of wrath begin on the Sabbath. The 6th bowl brings the Kings of the East marching toward Jerusalem. The antichrist kills the two witnesses then marches out to meet them. The two witnesses are in the city of Jerusalem Rev 11:8 and they are slain and risen on the third day at the second rapture which is the Feast of Trumpets. Rev 11:13 says that within the same hour there is a great earthquake which you see in the 7th bowl in Rev 16:18 following the rapture of 16:15. At the same hour that we see Jerusalem fall we see Babylon fall. I don't believe that they are the same city. Jerusalem is referred to as “Sodom and Egypt” and only a tenth of it falls in 11:13 and will be the place that Jesus will rule from, but Babylon is completely annihilated never to be inhabited again Rev 18:22.

    After drooling over it for a few more weeks I come to realize that the three woes spoken about at the end of the 4th trumpet are expanded on by the 3 angels of Rev 14:6-13 The first angel comes down and preaches to the people of the earth. 14:6-7 the angel comes down at the woe of the 5th trumpet and is the same angel from Rev 9:12 and 12:12 saying don't worship this man or take his mark or you will recieve the wrath of God. The angel of Rev 14:8 is the same angel of 11:14 and 18:1 declaring the destruction of Babylon and we also see this is the second rapture by verses 11:12, 16:15, and 18:4.

    This last woe or proclamation of the angel shook me to my core. The angel from 14:9-11 is down here preaching the gospel to people after everyone else has been raptured, and a voice from heaven comes to John in 14:13 saying anyone who dies for the Lord from here on their works will follow them. Talk about the Love of God. And for the next 10 days it will literally be hell on earth. 2Pet 3:9

    Here He is destroying the works of satan that have been killing people for 6000 years, and at the same time sending angels down to preach to people, and still willing to forgive anyone until that final moment on the Day of Atonement 10 days later when God said in Lev 23:27-29 that whoever doesn't afflict their soul and repent on that day will be cut off, and He is bound by His word to cut them off. I'm still amazed at His mercy and love. He gives people every chance possible to repent. We serve an awesome loving, merciful, powerful God and everyday He reveals to me more and more. I haven't even begun to realize or grasp how great He is. I still find new things every day that put me in tears.

    So anyway back to my studies. So counting backwards 1290 days from the 15th of Av would land us on the New Year after the opening of the 4th seal at the Feast of Trumpets 3 1/2 years before the man of sin is killed and resurrected, when the sacrifice is taken away. I assume that is referring to access to the temple mount and the wailing wall because the temple can't be announced until after. And it will be tread under by the gentile for 42 months according to Rev 11:2. The mount will be shared because only the temple and altar are built and not the courtyard.

    So a peace treaty is signed 3 1/2 years, before he is killed, on the feast of trumpets and the following spring will mark the beginning of the ministry of the two witnesses on Passover. Israel has been pouring a cup for Elijah at Passover for 3000 years now and it will be fulfilled on that day.

    The latest thing that was revealed to me is about the war in heaven. Because of 2Thes 2:6-7, I had always believed that we or the Holy Spirit is the one that restrains the man of sin and he can't be revealed until we are out of the way. This is true and untrue at the same time. The truth of it is that we won't be here, but the Holy Spirit will be here working through the 144,000 and dwelling in all of the people that get saved and even the people that are saved but unready like the church of Ladocia. In revelations 12 we see the war in heaven and Michael is the one who cast satan out of heaven.

    This is important because it makes us look at the other times that Michael is mentioned in the bible. Every time He is mentioned it is in reference to the war in heaven and the end times and I'll try to show that here. In Daniel 10:4-7 Daniel sees a vision. It appears to be Jesus, he fits the same description of Jesus but in 10:16 says that the vision brought him great sorrow. The angel told him in vs 14 that “it was a vision of what would befall thy people in the latter days.” The angel told him in vs 13 “that the Prince of Persia had withstood him for 21 days, but then Michael came and helped Him”. This vision is of the false prophet that will be a great deception to all the people of the world. He will do lying signs and wonders and deceive those who don't know the truth. He is also the great deception sent by God and the church of Ladocia will be the most susceptible. Duet 13:1-3

    On the 24th day Daniel is sitting by the river Euphrates around Babylon. He looks up and sees this vision of false prophet coming out of Persia and it makes him very sad, and scares the other people with him. The reason why this is important is because it gives us a new time line to add to our 7 years of tribulation. The Feast of Trumpets 1993 the Oslo Peace Agreement was signed this is the covenant with hell spoken of in Isa 28:18 that God said He would annul with violence. It was annulled just before sunset 7 years later on the Feast of Trumpets 2000 and then violence broke out that has been going on every since then.

    Next we come to the 7 years of plenty followed by the 7 years of famine from the story of Joseph. From the Feast of Trumpets 2000 until the Feast of Trumpets 2008 the world stock markets climbed like never before reaching all time highs all over the world. 3 days before the Feast of Trumpets 2008 our housing market crashed and we brought down the whole world with us. Our dollar, being the reserve currency of the world just brought every country in the world down because every country in the world has a huge supply of dollars.

    There was a sign in the heavens on the Day of Atonement 2011 that hasn't been seen on a feast day since 26 AD when Jesus walked the earth. In Revelations 12 John sees a sign in the heavens, the first one is a woman clothed with sun and the moon under her feet crowned with 12 stars. This is the sign Virgo seen every year on the Feast of Trumpets with the sliver of the new moon under her feet. The second sign that he saw is very rare. The dragon that cast down a third of the stars to the earth. This is the constellation Draco and every 13 years a comet comes through Draco and causes a meteor shower on October 8th. The reason why I say Oct 8th is because it hardly ever falls on Yom Kippur and when it does it never lines up with the 13 year cycle of the comet. This is the sign that started the final 7 years of the tribulation.

    According to those signs that the bible told us that we would see, then the 7 years of famine would end on the Feast of Trumpets 2015. This lines up perfectly with the opening of the 4th seal which would end the famine spoken of in the 3rd seal and begin great persecution. Since I found the relationship between the book of Joshua and Revelations, I had known that the 7 years of plenty and famine of Joseph were related too, I just didn't know how. Joseph is also a messianic figure and he and Joshua both died at 110 and I pay attention to numbers in the bible.

    I just found this out a few weeks ago, but it ties in perfectly with the time line of Michael in Daniel. Looking at Daniel 10 again you see he was by the river on the 24th day of the first month when Michael came. If the treaty was signed on Feast of Trumpets 1993 then 7 years later annulled Trumpets 2000 (A time) 7 years of plenty Trumpets 2000-2007 followed by 7 years of famine Trumpets 2007-2014 (Times) Then (half a time) would be 3 1/2 years later falling on the Feast of First Fruits 2018 at the 5th trumpet of the 7th year from 2011. That falls in line with the 24th day in Daniel 10.

    Feast of Trumpets 2014 opens the 4th seal and is also the day that the new peace treaty will be signed with Israel. The temple mount will come under gentile control on New years a few months later. From the time that the peace treaty is signed it will be 3 1/2 years or another fulfillment of (A time, times, and half a time) Dan 12:7. Daniel 12:1-3 tells us at that time that Michael will stand up and the rapture will happen. The silence in heaven at the opening of the 7th seal is for half an hour. Jesus tells the church of Philadelphia that the last year is the “hour” of testing. So the half an hour would put us in the spring around the 5th trumpet. Then there won't be silence in heaven because satan will be cast down as the falling star of the 5th trumpet and Rev 12:10-12 tells us there will be a loud voice and rejoicing over the defeat of the dragon. Then the cries and woes of the 3 angels fill the earth.

    The Psalm menorah does favor those dates, but Psalm 90:10 adds support. Moses who lived to be 120 years old writes that our days are 70 years. Vs 12 goes on to say “teach us to number our days” vs 13 is asking “Return O Lord, How Long?” Well the whole time Moses is writing this he has a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night right in front of him, so the Return of the Lord seems out of place here. So just to go over some dates, Daniel said in 8:14 that the temple would be trodden under foot for 2300 evenings and mornings from the little horn. The little horn being Alexander conquering Jerusalem in 332BC in 352 BC they had a revolt which led to cease of the sacrifice and 2300 years from then we have Israel being reborn in 1948.

    70 years from 1948 we have 2018 which goes along with Isa 23:15 saying that Tyre will be forgotten 70 years, Tyre being a picture of Babylon. Israel reclaims Jerusalem in June of 1967 and can for the first time keep the Feast of First Fruits the following year 1968, which would begin the year of the Lord and the counting of the Jubilee. Yahweh told Israel when they left Egypt that they could not eat leavened bread until they ate the first fruits of the land that He would give them, so they ate manna for 40 years. Once they crossed the Jordan they ate the first fruits of the land and the manna ceases the next day. Another thing that I didn't mention about Yom Kippur is that it is the day that the Jubilee is proclaimed Lev 25:9 So from Feast of First Fruits 1968 plus 49 years brings us to 2017. The next year will be the 50th year and the Jubilee will be proclaimed on the Lords return to defeat the armies of the world on the Day of Atonement. The counting of the omer leading up to the Feast of Weeks or Pentecost is a rehearsal of the Jubilee. It will be the first Jubilee every proclaimed in Israel, because in all the years that they lived in the land they never kept one Sabbath year.

    The next thing I noticed are the titles of the Lord in the messages to the churches in Rev 2&3. In the beginning of each message after the name of the church is a title of the Lord. In one He is called “He that holds the stars in His right hand and walks among the candlesticks” and each one you can find the title used somewhere else in the Old Testament. I'm not going to go through everyone of them here, because it takes too long, but the last one I want to go into because it relates the Feast of the Lord with the Days of Creation and with the Trumpets and Bowls of Wrath of the last year. To the church of Ladocia He is referred to as “the beginning of the creation of God” Genesis is probably my favorite book of the bible and I've studied the creation account more than anything else. While I was studying the trumpets and bowls of Revelations I noticed that they are basically the days of creation taken away. Actually I'll save that for another post because this one is already long enough, but I'd love to post about how the Feasts relate to the days of creation.

    The four Horsemen of Rev 6 are the same four horsemen of Zech 6. Zechariah even tells us where they go. The black and white horse goes into the north (Syria, Turkey, Rusia, Lebanon) the pale horse goes to the south (Egypt, Ethiopia, maybe all of Africa) and the red horse of the 2nd seal runs to and fro throughout the whole earth stirring up people against each other. We can already see Isa 17 coming to pass “Damascus will be a ruinous heap” and Isa 19 with the revolt of Egypt. Isa 18 is talking about South Sudan who just became a country in 2011 when the Christians finally won independence from the muslims.

    The reason why we don't know these things is because of the prophecy of Daniel 7:25. The first fulfillment of this prophecy was Constantine who is known as the first “so called” christian emperor. He issued the edict of milan in 313 as a tolerance for ALL religions, it sounds politically correct but it doesn't sound like God. He then went on to make a law that all Christians and non-christians would worship on the venerable day of the sun (Sun-day) all of his coins until the day that he died had the inscription “sol invictus” the unconquerable or victorius sun. With a picture of Mithra on the back of the coin. Mithra is just the Persian, later adopted by Rome, version of Tammuz, the Babylonian sun god. He outlawed all of the feasts of the “jews” as he called them, even though Lev 23 clearly states that they are the feast of God, and replaced them with His own pagan holidays. I'm only pointing this out because God said in Jer 16:19 that the gentiles will say “surely we've inherited lies from our fathers” and we know that the day of the Lord won't come until there is a great falling away first and the love of many will grow cold and some will betray one another unto death.

    I hope that I'm still welcome here after this post. I really love talking about the bible and God and I love to learn so I would love to hear any ideas, revelations or faults with my post here. I believe that the Word of God is supposed to bring us together and that it's religion and tradition that tear us apart, so I really don't want to get into an argument. I would rather discuss this as brothers in Christ in a Christlike manner.

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    Joshua being a messianic figure I wanted to study the book closer. After the taking of Jericho I found the first mention of Babylon in the bible. Achan in Joshua 7 had taken a Babylonish garment and was judged by being stoned to death and burned with fire, which is the same judgment that the city of Babylon receives in Revelations.
    Your study is too long and too deep into too many things for this old man, but I did read some of it. Consider that the source word for Babylon is also translated into English as Babel. With that translation and the same meaning (confusion) it is found earlier in scripture in Gen 10:10 where it is founded by Nimrod and in Gen 11:9 where it is the name given to the tower built by men whose languages were confused.

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    Babel and Babylon aren't necessarily the same city. Gen 11:2 says that they were journeying from the east and found a plain in the land of shinar. Duet 3:9 tells us that the amorites called Mt Hermon Shinar. Genesis 14 tells us that Abraham rescued Lot from King Amraphel of Shinar. King Amraphel according to the book of Jasher is another namer for Nimrod. I don't know if that's true or not but Baalbek up by Byblos of Lebanon fits the description of Babel better than Babylon. I don't dispute that where the city of Babylon is was part of Nimrods kingdom but probably not at first being that they all migrated down from Mt Ararat.
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    Thank you for your kind response, my friend. I was not intending to join a debate on anything. I do not have that kind of knowledge.

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    Well, first Psalms 117 isn't the middle of the Bible. Psalms 118 is. With Psalms 118:8 being the middle verse of the Bible. (some say KJV has an even number of verses)
    Also the book of Jasher isn't considered a canonical book of the Bible.
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    Here is a good site that has all of the chapters and verses laid out for you to look at for yourself. I realize that Jasher isn't considered canonical thats why I said I don't know if thats true or not. If it were in the KJV then I would have said without a doubt that it was true. Thank you for reading it though, did you have any other thoughts on the post.

    prayerfoundation.org/not_center_verse_of_bible_118_8.htm
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