In my fellowship with a fellow who is trying to be a Christian outwardly, he hangs on to the old life also.

We are called to be righteous and live the life of Jesus and to let go of the world. The youth more than others are trying to win the world by identifying with them. Talking like the world using the same rebelious talk, saying we have to win them no matter what we do to get them to like us and join in with us to be a Christian. Sorry but quote Christian dating leads to Adultery or fornication.

One day our pastor went to the back of the church and found many youth back there kissing and whatever else. This was outside and it was dark. Even laughing at dirty jokes to be acceptable is not ethical.

One day I walked in the church men's room and several boys whose parents go there were talking about Marijuana. The world will love us if we be cool and like at least heavy metal music with Christian lyrics. In Eph.1 we are called to praise the father's glory, we will give account for world music.

People who are walking away from sin and being made into Jesus image are called narrow, that's okay Jesus said narrow is the way and few there be that find it. I have no self righteous atitude because I fear God and know that he is watching me. I am ashamed of my mistakes and am thankful for forgiveness through the blood shed to free me so I can be with him for all eternity.

To me Christianity is good by world even as I wrestle against temptations the Lord is the strength to overcome and be accounted worthy to enter his heavenly kingdom.

God delivered me from a Satanic life and so I know it is hard to put away childish things. It is most profitable to stay in the bible and walk by faith day by day with the Holy Spirit leading.

think about this original pun. it is fun to be doing the things that make me happy. It is joy to make the father happy and receive the life the world knows nothing about and it is wonderful. Today he told me something that no one in the world has never known before. It would be so hard for them to understand if I told them.

This is mostly the churches fault, because they no longer teach about repentance from sin, holy living, righteousness, etc. Instead of coming out of Babylon we are bringing it in to us, and doing things any other way than God's way is not a good road to travel down.

1 Corinthians 3:1-113
¹⁰ By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. ¹¹ For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. ¹² If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, ¹³ their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work.

To be "Cool" is another way of saying " to be conformed to this world" and not want to renew their minds so that they be transformed into the Image of Christ.
Rom 12:2.

Christians should not care about being "cool." Quite the opposite, following the words of Christ leads to inner warmth.

I like the posts above. thank you for helping me to help someone else. The youth today need examples so they will change the way they live and dress. I am not a old crabby legal Christian. I was the member of a heavy metal rock band and into things prefer not talk about for they are a shame. I am concerned with my fellow brethren. Here are a few insights. the rap music is based on ganster talk. I was a ganster once. holes in knees? low cuts and tights to show off that which causes a man to lust. I used to create my own wardrobe. My talk was to hide my wicked plans so parents wouldn't understand. I hid the pot in the pot when jamming one night. Dad found it---why was I not worried?? because I worshipped Satan and knew he had my back. My guitarist and I had demons play guitars through us.
I confess myself under the blood of Jesus every day to protect me--- even while some brethren live the loose carefree sinful lives that Jesus died for to save them from.

I'm not angry, just wanted to let some poor soul backsliden who may say Jesus I total surrender and give you my whole life for your glory. I don't live backwards only forwards---in holiness. He's coming back real soon for his overcomers. Rev. 12:

Dear Brodav9,

Thank you for sharing with all here the things you did before making Jesus Christ the Lord of your life.
How wonderful is the love and the grace of God revealed through Jesus Christ that now you are saved and are a new creation in Christ!

Through your post, I pray that people may come to know that rock music is indeed satanic and I find it strange how these days people come up with Christian rock music! Satan does appear like an angel of light doesn't he?
We as a family have had an experience with rock music which confirmed that rock music was played by demons behind the guitar strings. We learnt more from the book " Blessing or Curse, You can choose" by Derek Prince.


The music remains almost the same, just adding christian words to it to make it sound nice and 'holy'. Likewise with Rap music.

Before I close,
remember that you have authority over the devil and his demons...( Luke 10:19)
Greater is He who is in you than he who is the world ( 1 John 4:4)
You are a victor and more than a conqueror through Him.

Speak the Word of God and pray in the Spirit always... everyday.

God bless you richly
PRE

Originally Posted by ::PreciousinChrist::

rock music was played by demons behind the guitar strings.

I think this statement is a huge exaggeration. So according to you, when I play my guitar at home, it is really demons playing it, not me? If you believe that, then you believe Christians can be demon-possessed, which is absolutely false. How about when I play my saxophone, or any other instrument? Or do demons only like electronics? The saxophone was once called the devil's horn! Do you think it was/is?

Do you call demonic whatever isn't of your musical taste?

We learnt more from the book " Blessing or Curse, You can choose" by Derek Prince.

Derek Prince and his Shepherding movement in the 70's and 80's led thousands of Christians astray from following Jesus to following and submitting unquestioningly to so-called shepherd gurus-types. His teachings on demonisation and submission are extreme to the point of absurdity, IE: referring to colitis as demonic possession, etc. Later in life he repented of many things he said and did, but the damage has already been done.

When Jesus established the Christian congregation and that went into operation on the day of Pentecost, 33 C.E., he had told his eleven faithful apostles on the night before his death: "These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you. Bear in mind the word I said to you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also; if they have observed my word, they will observe yours also."(John 15:18-20)

Therefore, what does it mean for a true Christian to be "no part of the world" in both speech and conduct ? Why would the "world" hate and persecute them ? Some three years earlier in about 30 C.E., Jesus had already said that "broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it."(Matt 7:13, 14)

He further said, after being asked, "Lord, are those who are being saved few ?”: "Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able."(Luke 13:23) Who are the ones among the "many" that will seek Jesus, but are unable to get through "the narrow door" ?

Jesus now gives an illustration, whereby individuals, after the "door" has been locked", will "start to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Sir, open to us.’ But in answer he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from.’ Then you will start saying, ‘We ate and drank in front of you, and you taught in our broad ways.’ But he will speak and say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !’ "(Luke 13:25-27)

These ones said that Jesus had ' taught in their broad ways', having sat before him as supposed students. However, he rejected them, telling them: "I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !" Why ? Because these are counterfeit Christians, having become "part of the world", practicing "unrighteousness".

Have not the churches supposedly ' sat before Jesus' to be "taught" by him, even individuals ' eating and drinking ' at their churches as a form of worship. But what have the religious leaders taught their respective members concerning being "no part of the world" ?

Some 450 years before Jesus arrival as the Messiah in 29 C.E., the Jewish religious leaders failed to honor God, with God saying through the prophet Malachi: "A son, for his part, honors a father; and a servant, his grand master. So if I am a father, where is the honor to me? And if I am a grand master, where is the fear of me?’ Jehovah of armies has said to you, O priests who are despising my name."(Mal 1:6)

Thus failing to honor Jehovah God, these "priests" allowed corrupt spiritual practices to infiltrate the nation of Israel that showed a ' despise ' of God's name. Over the following centuries till the arrival of Jesus as the "messenger of the covenant" in 29 C.E.(Mal 3:1), spiritual and moral conditions became worse, with the Jews being divided into different religious and political factions, such as the Pharisees and Sadducees who became deeply enmeshed in politics as "part of the world" and taught a distorted "Law", weighing down the Jews and even looking down on the common people, calling them ‛am-ha·’a´rets (Hebrew) as a despising term (see John 7:49), meaning "people of the land".(Jewish historian Josephus [37 ?-101 ? C.E.] first mentions the Sadducees and the Pharisees in the context of the second century B.C.E.)

Today, have the churches honored God's name of Jehovah or "despised" it, though professing being "Christian" ? Have the churches followed Jesus words to be "no part of the world" or have they become so intermixed with it that Jesus can rightly say to them: "I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !" ?

What have the young men and women been taught respecting what a genuine Christian is in the churches ? Have they taught what the Bible really says, "in order to make a distinction between the holy thing and the profane and between the unclean thing and the clean." ?(Lev 10:10) Have the religious leaders of Christendom taught their respective members in order not to ' profane the name of God', Jehovah ? (Lev 20:3)

Have they taught them how to avoid the political arena as Jesus did (John 6:15), or avoiding taking sides in hot political issues of the day like Jesus (Matt 22:21), to have clean language (Eph 5:3-5), to "love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind" (Matt 22:37), to avoid "the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life" (1 John 2:16), avoiding the worship of idols ?(1 John 5:21) Have they taught the clear defining moral boundaries that Jesus and the apostles laid out for a true Christian, "between what is holy and what is profane" ?(Eze 42:20)

Originally Posted by Jaareshiah

When Jesus established the Christian congregation and that went into operation on the day of Pentecost, 33 C.E., he had told his eleven faithful apostles on the night before his death: "These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you. Bear in mind the word I said to you, A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also; if they have observed my word, they will observe yours also[/COLOR]."(John 15:18-20)

Therefore, what does it mean for a true Christian to be "no part of the world" in both speech and conduct ? Why would the "world" hate and persecute them ? Some three years earlier in about 30 C.E., Jesus had already said that "broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it."(Matt 7:13, 14)

He further said, after being asked, "Lord, are those who are being saved few ?”: "Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able."(Luke 13:23) Who are the ones among the "many" that will seek Jesus, but are unable to get through "the narrow door" ?

Jesus now gives an illustration, whereby individuals, after the "door" has been locked", will "start to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Sir, open to us.’ But in answer he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from.’ Then you will start saying, ‘We ate and drank in front of you, and you taught in our broad ways.’ But he will speak and say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !’ "(Luke 13:25-27)

These ones said that Jesus had ' taught in their broad ways', having sat before him as supposed students. However, he rejected them, telling them: "I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !" Why ? Because these are counterfeit Christians, having become "part of the world", practicing "unrighteousness".

Have not the churches supposedly ' sat before Jesus' to be "taught" by him, even individuals ' eating and drinking ' at their churches as a form of worship. But what have the religious leaders taught their respective members concerning being "no part of the world" ?

Some 450 years before Jesus arrival as the Messiah in 29 C.E., the Jewish religious leaders failed to honor God, with God saying through the prophet Malachi: "A son, for his part, honors a father; and a servant, his grand master. So if I am a father, where is the honor to me? And if I am a grand master, where is the fear of me?’ Jehovah of armies has said to you, O priests who are despising my name."(Mal 1:6)

Thus failing to honor Jehovah God, these "priests" allowed corrupt spiritual practices to infiltrate the nation of Israel that showed a ' despise ' of God's name. Over the following centuries till the arrival of Jesus as the "messenger of the covenant" in 29 C.E.(Mal 3:1), spiritual and moral conditions became worse, with the Jews being divided into different religious and political factions, such as the Pharisees and Sadducees who became deeply enmeshed in politics as "part of the world" and taught a distorted "Law", weighing down the Jews and even looking down on the common people, calling them ‛am-ha·’a´rets (Hebrew) as a despising term (see John 7:49), meaning "people of the land".(Jewish historian Josephus [37 ?-101 ? C.E.] first mentions the Sadducees and the Pharisees in the context of the second century B.C.E.)

Today, have the churches honored God's name of Jehovah or "despised" it, though professing being "Christian" ? Have the churches followed Jesus words to be "no part of the world" or have they become so intermixed with it that Jesus can rightly say to them: "I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness !" ?

What have the young men and women been taught respecting what a genuine Christian is in the churches ? Have they taught what the Bible really says, "in order to make a distinction between the holy thing and the profane and between the unclean thing and the clean." ?(Lev 10:10) Have the religious leaders of Christendom taught their respective members in order not to ' profane the name of God', Jehovah ? (Lev 20:3)

Have they taught them how to avoid the political arena as Jesus did (John 6:15), or avoiding taking sides in hot political issues of the day like Jesus (Matt 22:21), to have clean language (Eph 5:3-5), to "love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind" (Matt 22:37), to avoid "the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life" (1 John 2:16), avoiding the worship of idols ?(1 John 5:21) Have they taught the clear defining moral boundaries that Jesus and the apostles laid out for a true Christian, "between what is holy and what is profane" ?(Eze 42:20)

Narrow is the Gate.. yep.

The only way (the gate) to the Father is through Jesus... Jesus is the GATE.(the door/ the way). Not our ability to conform to religious rules and standards.

I think if you understand Jesus, the passage is clear.. it is not about works it is about JESUS!

Originally Posted by Jaareshiah

He further said, after being asked, "Lord, are those who are being saved few ?”: "Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able."(Luke 13:23) Who are the ones among the "many" that will seek Jesus, but are unable to get through "the narrow door" ?

This is a classic example of the New World Translation (JW bible) shifting translation to suit their false doctrines. Compare the wording (Luke 13)


The Parable of Bride Groom gives clarification of the "Closed Door" ... I would encourage you to read (Matthew 25)

I love Christian Contemporary Music.

Those of y'all that disparage your brothers and sisters in Christ may wish to consider Matthew 25 also. Especially the part where Jesus says.. "Whatsoever you have done to the lest of these my brethren, you have done it unto me."

: )