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NO, she didn't..you didn't read properly..THEY (NOT SHE) TOOK HIM HOME AND *EXPLAINED* she did not *TEACH*..THEY EXPLAINED him God's way morE accurately. They didn't TEACH.
Therefore, Aquila her husband who was the headship, probably was the one EXPLAINING to him and Pricilla also, as she had the right, she was a Deaconess and he a Deacon. Read what priviledges women have being a Deaconess. THEY did it together..SHE DID NOT TAKE HIM HOME ALONE TO TEACH HIM..THEY..PRISCILLA AND AQUILA TOGETHER ..EXPLAINED..huge difference between explaining and teaching two different meanings entirerly.


The problem with people as you read what you want to see. What you want it to be and don't even realize that you are writing exactly the contrary of your writing. Read carefully before putting one's foot in one's mouth my mother always said. See the trees in the forest and not see the forest because of the trees.
You got to be kidding me! You `ll have to chop down the whole forest to make me see how "explaining/expounding" is not "teaching"

I know what privileges a Deaconess had....and I think you are the one beating the bush now...(beating the bush results in straw, and twisting to grasp at straws can only result in the foot in mouth you mentioned)

(edited for interlude; I had to run off earlier)

Seriously now....I was wrong earlier about the Prophetess thing (I think)as a Prophet is not necessarily a teacher, so lets forget I used that example.

On the other hand, God set apostles, prophets, and teachers in the body, (1Co 12:28) and I dont see any role for "explainers"....but if there is I`ll be glad to accept it... maybe its covered under various kinds of tongues (tongue in cheek)

And you cant say that "Aquila her husband who was the headship, probably was the one explaining", as that requires "they" to become "He" and you cant substitute one word for another just because it suits your probabilities to do so...that results in you creating the same "read what you want to see" problem you pointed to. In the context of the whole counsel of scripture, I dont see how women can be condemned for simply "teaching a man the way of God more perfectly", and I`ve seen this debated from every angle known to man.


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God Said Women Were Not to Teach Men - 02-08-10, 06:12 PM

I love your sense of humour. God said that women were not to teach men..period. Are we going to argue if God is right or not? He is the One who makes the laws and *teaches* us what we must do.

If He says..WOMEN DON'T TEACH MEN .. it's you don't teach..period. As at the moment I am EXPLAINING to you that God said women don't teach men.. I am not TEACHING you. So you see there is a difference in teaching and explaining.

When you are in school..the TEACHer ..teaches you..if you don't understand he or she will say.. Come after class and I will EXPLAIN it to you. Get your dictionary out sweet Coconut and you will see it is not the same.

What I meant by he..Aquilla..since he is the head, he is the one who probably *began* to EXPLAIN..not TEACH..and Priscilla also explained to. If she had not been a deaconess, she would have left her husband to do the explaining as his wife and not a deaconess, it would not be her place to say anything as a woman must remain silent in church and if she need any EXPLAINING to ask her husband at home.

It is really simple.. explaining isn't teaching, it explaining. Teaching isn't explaining it's teaching. I will teach you how to ride a bike and I will explain how the bike works..the brakes etc..once I have explained to you all about the bike then I will teach you how to ride it.

I will teach you how to write a poem, and I will explain the best way to do it.

I will teach you to bake a cake and then explain why I use butter instead of margarine in the pan.

I will teach you to sing and I will explain why this note must be sung a certain way then I will teach you how to sing it.

When I was being taught to knit, I asked the teacher to explain to my why I kept having stitches dropping without my noticing it.

So Priscilla and Aquila explained to him what he should know about God's way..as he knew but wasn't doing it quite right.

I studied law and was taught..when I made a mistake..it was explained to me why I did.

So there is a difference in Teaching and Explaining. The two are entirely different of each other.

Isn't the Bible great..it makes us work our minds and understand the *meaning* of the *difference* of teaching and explaining.

God teaches us not to sin and when we do He explains to us why he must punish us. He doesnt explain His laws and doesnt Teach why we are punished.





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02-08-10, 06:29 PM

I refrained from using the doomed smiley on this subject, lol.

Jesus also told some of those he healed to keep silent, and they could not contain the silence of the good news.

I am 100% for a woman being in submission to her husband, and I do not think a woman should go start a church etc., I just don't agree with the part that says if a woman teaches and or preaches, however you view the word being shared, and a man is present and learns from it, it is not from God.

The point I have made before is that a woman whose husband had passed, stayed and carried the church, she still does and brings in evangelists and preachers, men, also.

The other was a woman who does some of the services when her husband is not there.

Lord knows there are a lot of men preaching and teaching that should not be, the question is, who is willing to carry the gospel into all the world?
   
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God is Supreme In All Things - 02-08-10, 08:16 PM

God isn't a God of confusion..all He does is with order and that all things to work right. You can't have two bosses, therefore God is the Boss, the Boss of Man is God and the Boss of woman is Man. Therefore, Man cannot take the place of God and therefore Woman cannot take the place of man. Order.

Unless the woman is a Deaconess, she cannot to anything, she cannot take the place of her husband when he isn't there, it is not her place and she isn't assigned to. If a woman does then she is disobediant..pure and simple.

Trust me it rubbed me the wrong way that we women cannot be pastors as I have the talent to do so and was ordained. But when I knew the Truth, I had to let it go. Because God knows what He is doing, He is the Creator and no one can go and tell Him that He is wrong. He is perfect, we are not..we cannot even have an inkling to How He thinks and more often than not people tend to complicate what God says and yet if you take it as is, as God says it..it is simple

Women are not allowed to teach! What more simple is that? Nothing complicated. If women were allowed to teach men then there would be confusion, arguements, fights, etc. Look at what the liberation of women has done, it was supposed to give us rights not have the right to marry other women and be porn queens and take the place of men that only men should do.

God is simple..it's man that complicates things. I accept all that God says as a woman what I can do or not do. I don't have a stiff neck. I obey period. It's that simple.


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Jesus had his reasons - 02-08-10, 08:40 PM

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I refrained from using the doomed smiley on this subject, lol.

Jesus also told some of those he healed to keep silent, and they could not contain the silence of the good news.

JESUS DIDN'T TELL A WOMAN TO KEEP QUIET..think why he told them to keep quiet..it had nothing to do with women.

I am 100% for a woman being in submission to her husband, and I do not think a woman should go start a church etc., I just don't agree with the part that says if a woman teaches and or preaches, however you view the word being shared, and a man is present and learns from it, it is not from God.

How can you say you agree 100% being in submission to her husband and not be 100% that a woman cannot teach? God knows what He is doing and we have no right to agree or disagree. Nothing prevents us to spread the good news of the Kingdom. In the bible it is written that there was an Army of Women spreading the good news. An army represents alot of people. We can't have two masters. It is simple you can't have two heads in a household. You can't have two kings ruling at the same time, you can't have two prime ministers..WHY is that?

Simple: You can't have two people ruling at the same time. A woman's place is besides her husband, she is a COMPANION to aid him in what he does. Why you think God made woman? Because He saw it wasn't good for the man to be alone and made him a companion.


The point I have made before is that a woman whose husband had passed, stayed and carried the church, she still does and brings in evangelists and preachers, men, also.

She has no authority to do so and is disobeying God, pure and simple and there is not two way about it.

The other was a woman who does some of the services when her husband is not there.

She has no right either, it is not her place. Maybe as a Deaconess she could until a man takes charge, otherwise, she can't. I don,t see what is so difficult in understanding..NO WOMAN IS ALLOWED TO TEACH A MAN and until God says different..we can't.

Lord knows there are a lot of men preaching and teaching that should not be, the question is, who is willing to carry the gospel into all the world?
That is for God to judge, not you or I who should and shouldn't. Only God knows their hearts. We all can carry the gospel to the world because God doesn't even need us to do that..He could send His angels to take form of men and do it. He doesn,t need us for anything..we are not even worthy to pronounce His name. We are all filled with the sin of Adam and Eve and very lucky that we are still here, so who are we to complain and judge what God does.

I would never dare say I don,t agree with what God had written in the Bible. He can't be wrong ever and never will I ever disagree with what He says I can or cannot do. He knows best, He is perfect..I'm not..am a sinner and I will be perfect only when and if at Judgement Day..I pass and allowed to live eternally.

God forbid that I would disagree with anything He says we must do or not. I don't question a thing that He has given us to follow. It's like driving..I follow the code of the road..if I don't I risk having or causing a accident, or getting a ticket.

If I follow the code of the rode why shouldn't I follow the code of the Bible..because the code of the rode is to protect us..so isn't what written in the Bible also to protect us..even from ourselves?

God doesn't sin..we do everyday. God is perfect..we are not. God doesn't die..we do. God can bring us back to life or take our life.. we can't. So you think I am going to argue what God says a woman can or cannot do..NO WAY!

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02-08-10, 09:15 PM

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I love your sense of humour. God said that women were not to teach men..period. Are we going to argue if God is right or not? He is the One who makes the laws and *teaches* us what we must do.

If He says..WOMEN DON'T TEACH MEN .. it's you don't teach..period. As at the moment I am EXPLAINING to you that God said women don't teach men.. I am not TEACHING you. So you see there is a difference in teaching and explaining.

When you are in school..the TEACHer ..teaches you..if you don't understand he or she will say.. Come after class and I will EXPLAIN it to you. Get your dictionary out sweet Coconut and you will see it is not the same.

What I meant by he..Aquilla..since he is the head, he is the one who probably *began* to EXPLAIN..not TEACH..and Priscilla also explained to. If she had not been a deaconess, she would have left her husband to do the explaining as his wife and not a deaconess, it would not be her place to say anything as a woman must remain silent in church and if she need any EXPLAINING to ask her husband at home.

It is really simple.. explaining isn't teaching, it explaining. Teaching isn't explaining it's teaching. I will teach you how to ride a bike and I will explain how the bike works..the brakes etc..once I have explained to you all about the bike then I will teach you how to ride it.

I will teach you how to write a poem, and I will explain the best way to do it.

I will teach you to bake a cake and then explain why I use butter instead of margarine in the pan.

I will teach you to sing and I will explain why this note must be sung a certain way then I will teach you how to sing it.

When I was being taught to knit, I asked the teacher to explain to my why I kept having stitches dropping without my noticing it.

So Priscilla and Aquila explained to him what he should know about God's way..as he knew but wasn't doing it quite right.

I studied law and was taught..when I made a mistake..it was explained to me why I did.

So there is a difference in Teaching and Explaining. The two are entirely different of each other.

Isn't the Bible great..it makes us work our minds and understand the *meaning* of the *difference* of teaching and explaining.

God teaches us not to sin and when we do He explains to us why he must punish us. He doesnt explain His laws and doesnt Teach why we are punished.


So are you saying that women cannot enter into a discussion that has anything to do with the Bible? Or was the the context that women should not teach in church?

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02-08-10, 11:21 PM

Everything goes nowadays I guess. Why not a second day novice to teach and preach since he has passed the first day in Christendom, really no pride will come up I guess since we are all sure of that, remember dont stop a young one from teaching. Hey was not it Adam who disobeyed? Was it not woman who was deceived? Am I getting my bords wackwards? Hey lets not forget this and that on the allowance of one verse being contrary to allow all to do his or her thing. Hey remember if u can see it in your light in Gods word lets allow it. Lets forget authority lets forget Gods structure. Anything goes lets have confusion in the church. Who's church? My church because I preach and want to teach.
Why cant a man who's struggling with lying preach, after all is he not struggling with it?
And the man who had 7 wives after all he is just married to ONE woman now? Hey lets have a woman teach since she is in her third marriage, lets.
Hey lets let a boy who is 10 years old preach?
Lets even allow you finding allowance in the letter of the law to let you preach a sermon lets.

I said all of this for one reason and one reason only, this is what the world see's!
Where is the faithfulness to Gods word? where is there integrity to his word!
Where is one picking up his cross and following him?
I hope this advice is useful to any who may read it.


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God isn't a God of confusion..all He does is with order and that all things to work right. You can't have two bosses, therefore God is the Boss, the Boss of Man is God and the Boss of woman is Man. Therefore, Man cannot take the place of God and therefore Woman cannot take the place of man. Order.

Unless the woman is a Deaconess, she cannot to anything, she cannot take the place of her husband when he isn't there, it is not her place and she isn't assigned to. If a woman does then she is disobediant..pure and simple.

Trust me it rubbed me the wrong way that we women cannot be pastors as I have the talent to do so and was ordained. But when I knew the Truth, I had to let it go. Because God knows what He is doing, He is the Creator and no one can go and tell Him that He is wrong. He is perfect, we are not..we cannot even have an inkling to How He thinks and more often than not people tend to complicate what God says and yet if you take it as is, as God says it..it is simple

Women are not allowed to teach! What more simple is that? Nothing complicated. If women were allowed to teach men then there would be confusion, arguements, fights, etc. Look at what the liberation of women has done, it was supposed to give us rights not have the right to marry other women and be porn queens and take the place of men that only men should do.

God is simple..it's man that complicates things. I accept all that God says as a woman what I can do or not do. I don't have a stiff neck. I obey period. It's that simple.

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Get your dictionary out sweet Coconut and you will see it is not the same.
Get your thesaurus out, DF. It will clear the air.

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02-09-10, 09:06 AM

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.


Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

GOD can use Any of HIS kids a in any way at any time!


In the body of Christ we a all equal , None Greater None Less !Only one HEAD , we follow HIM!


Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:


. Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
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