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06-30-08, 03:52 PM

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It starts in the heart. Revival I believe means change. Change from where we are to where God wants us to be. Revival is happening in my heart right now. God doesn't want us to be where we are...He wants us to be higher. HE wants us closer to Him then we have ever been.

I agree...be careful with things people call revival. Satan comes like light, too, not just dark. Pray...pray that God move our hearts to the TRUE revivals and brings those involved in 'false' revivals to the surface where He can change them into TRUE revivals.
Thanks Giggles: I guess this just about sums up where I'm at with all this...... God is definitely after our hearts, and - in His grace and mercy - He loves to draw us to Himself (and, as He is God, He can do this just about anywhere!!!). My heart's cry is that He will give me 'the real thing'..... and I trust that He will!
However, we certainly do need to be praying for discernment in all this.... "Wise as serpents; innocent as doves".


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Another thing to note and make mention of here is that if someone finds Jesus in a revival meeting or any other kind of meeting in Lakeland, Toronto or elsewhere, it is because they were seeking Him to start with. It does not lend Father's approval of the meeting no more than when someone meets God in a crack house, nightclub or strip joint. Father answers whoever cries out to Him regardless of where they are and what they are surrounded by.
Very very well said! Praise Gods glory!

Joh 6:26 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves.
Joh 6:27 Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal."
Joh 6:28 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?"
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."
Joh 6:30 So they said to him, "Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform?
Joh 6:31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'"
Joh 6:32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
Joh 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
Joh 6:34 They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always."
Joh 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
Joh 6:36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.
Joh 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.


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07-10-08, 03:24 PM

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Joh 6:26 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves.
Joh 6:27 Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal."
Joh 6:28 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?"
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."
Joh 6:30 So they said to him, "Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform?
Joh 6:31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'"
Joh 6:32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
Joh 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
Joh 6:34 They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always."
Joh 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
Thanks for the above bible quote Coconut.
This does raise another question for me, however... and I thought I'd add to the current thread rather than start a new one 'cos it is related to the 'lakeland revival'.

I had an interesting discussion with one of my pastors the other day. She was encouraging me to take some 'young christians' (I am helping to disciple) to one of the 'revival meetings' when Todd Bentley comes to the UK in September. Her reasoning seems to be that if they witness miraculous healings, this will move them forward in their own walk with the Lord. At the time, I listened and nodded very politely. However, it does take me a while to process things sometimes:

To a point, I do agree with her; I've seen some miraculous healings myself, very recently, and this has certainly hightened my expectation that God, by His Spirit, can and - indeed - will heal if He so wishes. However, the above extract from John 6 appears to be suggesting that some are not convinced by 'signs and wonders'. Moreover, in this passage, Jesus appears to be reluctant to perform miracles simply because the people are hungering after them whilst ignoring the 'gift giver', namely Himself!!!!

Am I right in my interpretation of this passage?.... and if so, should I be cautious about encouraging my young christian friends to attend one of these aforesaid meetings?

What do people think?



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07-11-08, 08:26 PM

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Hi guys and gals,
there has been so much talk about this "revival" in florida lakeland which is being lead by a man called todd bentley.
I would really like to know what people think about whats going on.
i appreciate all comments
Do you know what a real revival is? People nowadays have lost sight of what it's meant to be, they focus it on 'healing and miracles'. REPENTANCE is what it should be about, real repentance not doing it so you can see a miracle, and someone healed or be healed yourself, NOT calling down angels, not focusing on a angel that gives an anointing (Where's the glory going to God in all this?) It's focusing alittle to much on healing and miracles, not revival. The Bible warns of this, and it happens SO MUCH we don't even realize that it's wrong. Anyone ever heard of the revival that happened at Asbury college in 1970!? THAT IS REVIVAL! I'll share it with you guys if you don't know what I'm talking about.


YouTube - REAL REVIVAL - 1 of 4 - Asbury College 1970

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"Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many." Matthew 24:11

"This is especially true of those who follow their corrupt nature along the path of impure desires and who despise the Lord's authority. These false teachers are bold and arrogant. They aren't afraid to insult the [Lord's] glory." 2 Peter 2:10

We need to stop lusting after miraculous things and signs and wonders, and start seeking repentance and salvation which comes through Jesus Christ alone, who alone gives anointing on our lives, and who alone will bless us when He sees fit, even if it we don't get anything that special on earth. You should still only seek Him and His Word alone.


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Do you know what a real revival is? People nowadays have lost sight of what it's meant to be, they focus it on 'healing and miracles'. REPENTANCE is what it should be about, real repentance not doing it so you can see a miracle, and someone healed or be healed yourself, NOT calling down angels, not focusing on a angel that gives an anointing (Where's the glory going to God in all this?)
Thank you soooo much for this comment Servant: This is certainly one of the things that has been bothering me about this lakeland 'thing'.... and why I have been extremely reluctant to call it a 'revival'.....

One of my favourite stories is set during the 'welsh revival'. Apparently loads of very distressed people turned up at a local police station... They went there 'cos they knew something was wrong. They just did not know where else to go!!! That's conviction of sin and repentence for you!!!!!.....That's revival!!!


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